Coronavirus conspiracy theories thread

[redjebo]

Following a request from @3hlut I'm posting an electron micrograph picture of SARS-CoV-2.
Let's keep conspiracy theories about the pandemic tidied up in one or two places.

https://www.who.int/csr/sars/coronavirus/en/

 

[3hlut]

Following a request from @3hlut I'm posting an electron micrograph picture of SARS-CoV-2.
Let's keep conspiracy theories about the pandemic tidied up in one or two places.

https://www.who.int/csr/sars/coronavirus/en/

Still can't see the isolated coronavirus.
All i see is a FRhK-4 cell

Do you even understand the meaning of an image of an "isolated virus" ?

 

[redjebo]

Still can't see the isolated coronavirus.
All i see is a FRhK-4 cell

Do you even understand the meaning of an image of an "isolated virus" ?

Dude, are you both blind and stupid? Virus isolation is exactly the process of cultivating or extracting a virus culture within a sustaining environment, one such as a FRhK-4 cell for the purposes of DNA sequencing and other researches. What do you want, a single SARS-CoV-2 on a petri dish glass without any living cells it grows on? How will the virion survive long enough to be scanned in its active shape? gees


Here is a scan of the virus growing up on human cells:

That is how you examine viruses.

 

[3hlut]

Dude, are you both blind and stupid? Virus isolation is exactly the process of cultivating or extracting a virus culture within a sustaining environment, one such as a FRhK-4 cell for the purposes of DNA sequencing and other researches. What do you want, a single SARS-CoV-2 virion picture? How will it survive long enough to be to be scanned in living shape? gees


Here is a scan of the virus growing up on human cells:

That is how you examine viruses.

Why you post garbage images ?This one is not even a real one.

Do you know how isolated viruses look on pictures ?
Please tell me based on your first picture how do you dertermine the genetic material for a PCR test ?

 

[redjebo]

Why you post garbage images ?This one is not even a real one.

Do you know how isolated viruses look on pictures ?

Gawd. The picture is very real, it is just that it's colorized digitally afterwards for illustrating purposes, don't you get it??

You can't just randomly isolate any virus from its environment and successfully scan it for morons to see like that, this is not CSI, it's real life.

Please tell me based on your first picture how do you dertermine the genetic material for a PCR test ?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0042682219300728

That's the principle, enjoy educating yourself.

 

[Willyfish]

the coronavirus is a lie, people die because of the flu and beef steak

 

[Nubian Content]

Questioning every little thing is just as dumb as questioning nothing. /Thread

 

[SeoWrecker]

Coronavirus is real, pandemic is not.

End of the story!

 

[Gogol]

pandemic is not.

Any reason for that, or is it just something you think? Please provide us a bit more detail.

 

[koderius]

NUFF SAID

 

[Willyfish]

Coronavirus is real, pandemic is not.

End of the story!

if all the countries in the world sacrifice their economy and accept that we will have a terrible crash coming due to this, I think we can say that the coronavirus and pandemic might be real and that the quarantine is not over-exageration..

I also lost people because of the coronavirus lately so it seems pretty real to me... Think about it, if all the countries in the world have coronavirus now ? it is the definition of a pandemic...

 

[SeoWrecker]

I could be partially or totally wrong on this but all this looks like a perfect script to bail out failing governments.

All countries sacrificing their economy could be because nobody wants to bet against WHO at this moment which is considered the most trusted health organization. Btw, the so called trusted health organization was accused of faking a pandemic when swine flu came in 2010. It later had to change the definition of a pandemic.

A season flu killed 80,000 americans in 2017 alone

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20180927/80000-americans-died-from-flu-last-year


The virus is still new and a lot of countries have started to realize it is not so fatal and getting back to its original state gradually. It is now considered less deadlier than when it first came.

The mortality rate of other countries is much lower than that of US and that raises red flags.

We all knew we were near a global recession or perhaps a great depression because the US had artificially been keeping it's economy strong. The interest rates were low for a long long time. The small business, corporates and almost everyone was caught up in debts and an economic collapse was inevitable. Should we really beleive the cause of 30 million people filing for unemployment is because of coronavirus? It was going to happen regardless. And then comes the coronavirus and the government has a solid excuse to blame the virus for everything.

Kelly loefller, a senator and wife of the owner of Nasdaq dumped all her stocks 10 minutes before she addressed a conference where she said there is no need to worry about coronavirus before it was declared a pandemic by WHO.

A lot of billionaires are known to sell when dow was at it peak.

Let's also not forget how US was losing the trade and 5g war to its competitor china. The next technology 5g is considered a trillion dollar industry which can create upto 25 million jobs. The country that wins the 5g race would almost rule the world for the next 15 years and contribute heavily to its economy because most of the other industries are going to be dependent on it. It was clearly losing to china.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/us/politics/barr-5g.amp.html

It would also put apple and a lot of tech companies at risk.


Us was threatened. It was losing from every end. Dollar was at risk. Then comes coronavirus out of nowhere and they now blame china for it. The only country losing here is china which was the biggest threat to US. A lot of countries are moving their factories out of china without any evidence or a conclusion in hurry. It all looks like it was all planned. A lot of countries which already signed 5g deals with china are now withdrawing their contracts. Us has now wiped out its only competitor and winning trade, 5g and currency war with china all at the same time.

If the pandemic is real, it is becoming more like a boon to the US and its closest allies and a curse for the rest of the world.


P.s - I am from neither of these countries

 

[Elvlin]

if all the countries in the world sacrifice their economy and accept that we will have a terrible crash coming due to this, I think we can say that the coronavirus and pandemic might be real and that the quarantine is not over-exageration..

I also lost people because of the coronavirus lately so it seems pretty real to me... Think about it, if all the countries in the world have coronavirus now ? it is the definition of a pandemic...

The virus is real. What all country do now is prevention. If it's really pandemic than all hospital will be full and they cannot take care all the patients. this scenario is what all country try to prevent.with the lockdown and all the policy.

 

[Gogol]

I could be partially or totally wrong on this but all this looks like a perfect script to bail out failing governments.

All countries sacrificing their economy could be because nobody wants to bet against WHO at this moment which is considered the most trusted health organization. Btw, the so called trusted health organization was accused of faking a pandemic when swine flu came in 2010. It later had to change the definition of a pandemic.

A season flu killed 80,000 americans in 2017 alone

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20180927/80000-americans-died-from-flu-last-year


The virus is still new and a lot of countries have started to realize it is not so fatal and getting back to its original state gradually. It is now considered less deadlier than when it first came.

The mortality rate of other countries is much lower than that of US and that raises red flags.

We all knew we were near a global recession or perhaps a great depression because the US had artificially been keeping it's economy strong. The interest rates were low for a long long time. The small business, corporates and almost everyone was caught up in debts and an economic collapse was inevitable. Should we really beleive the cause of 30 million people filing for unemployment is because of coronavirus? It was going to happen regardless. And then comes the coronavirus and the government has a solid excuse to blame the virus for everything.

Kelly loefller, a senator and wife of the owner of Nasdaq dumped all her stocks 10 minutes before she addressed a conference where she said there is no need to worry about coronavirus before it was declared a pandemic by WHO.

A lot of billionaires are known to sell when dow was at it peak.

Let's also not forget how US was losing the trade and 5g war to its competitor china. The next technology 5g is considered a trillion dollar industry which can create upto 25 million jobs. The country that wins the 5g race would almost rule the world for the next 15 years and contribute heavily to its economy because most of the other industries are going to be dependent on it. It was clearly losing to china.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/us/politics/barr-5g.amp.html

It would also put apple and a lot of tech companies at risk.


Us was threatened. It was losing from every end. Dollar was at risk. Then comes coronavirus out of nowhere and they now blame china for it. The only country losing here is china which was the biggest threat to US. A lot of countries are moving their factories out of china without any evidence or a conclusion in hurry. It all looks like it was all planned. A lot of countries which already signed 5g deals with china are now withdrawing their contracts. Us has now wiped out its only competitor and winning trade, 5g and currency war with china all at the same time.

If the pandemic is real, it is becoming more like a boon to the US and its closest allies and a curse for the rest of the world.


P.s - I am from neither of these countries

Let's put the controversies aside. I think (I could be wrong, too. I am not a virologist. Still, I think I am entitled to have my opinion/view on the present situation. I am in it too.) the biggest reason (IMO) for calling the COVID-19 situation a Pandemic, is the fact that it is still not understood well.

According to the data we have currently, it still kills a percentage of people (specially, elderly and people with co-morbidity); even with the best facilities we have. It should be less than 10% (please double check this. It keeps changing anyway. More likely to be around 3-4%.).

The Darwinists might believe in the "survival of the fittest", but would you like to lose your loved ones? I guess not. Death might be just a number to the Governments, but we are not just numbers.

It is a known fact that the lockdowns are decreasing the patient doubling rate over time. This virus spreads like wild-fire. Hence, the lockdown helps. It helps to break the chain.

Still, feel free to believe what you want to.

 

[llarasati]

Here's the one with conspiracies, not really sure if it's real or not.


https://londonreal.tv/unmasking-the...facts-vs-fiction-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/
https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com

 

[Willyfish]

I could be partially or totally wrong on this but all this looks like a perfect script to bail out failing governments.

All countries sacrificing their economy could be because nobody wants to bet against WHO at this moment which is considered the most trusted health organization. Btw, the so called trusted health organization was accused of faking a pandemic when swine flu came in 2010. It later had to change the definition of a pandemic.

A season flu killed 80,000 americans in 2017 alone

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20180927/80000-americans-died-from-flu-last-year


The virus is still new and a lot of countries have started to realize it is not so fatal and getting back to its original state gradually. It is now considered less deadlier than when it first came.

The mortality rate of other countries is much lower than that of US and that raises red flags.

We all knew we were near a global recession or perhaps a great depression because the US had artificially been keeping it's economy strong. The interest rates were low for a long long time. The small business, corporates and almost everyone was caught up in debts and an economic collapse was inevitable. Should we really beleive the cause of 30 million people filing for unemployment is because of coronavirus? It was going to happen regardless. And then comes the coronavirus and the government has a solid excuse to blame the virus for everything.

Kelly loefller, a senator and wife of the owner of Nasdaq dumped all her stocks 10 minutes before she addressed a conference where she said there is no need to worry about coronavirus before it was declared a pandemic by WHO.

A lot of billionaires are known to sell when dow was at it peak.

Let's also not forget how US was losing the trade and 5g war to its competitor china. The next technology 5g is considered a trillion dollar industry which can create upto 25 million jobs. The country that wins the 5g race would almost rule the world for the next 15 years and contribute heavily to its economy because most of the other industries are going to be dependent on it. It was clearly losing to china.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/us/politics/barr-5g.amp.html

It would also put apple and a lot of tech companies at risk.


Us was threatened. It was losing from every end. Dollar was at risk. Then comes coronavirus out of nowhere and they now blame china for it. The only country losing here is china which was the biggest threat to US. A lot of countries are moving their factories out of china without any evidence or a conclusion in hurry. It all looks like it was all planned. A lot of countries which already signed 5g deals with china are now withdrawing their contracts. Us has now wiped out its only competitor and winning trade, 5g and currency war with china all at the same time.

If the pandemic is real, it is becoming more like a boon to the US and its closest allies and a curse for the rest of the world.


P.s - I am from neither of these countries

I appreciate your reply, you developed your point of view in a very logical and down to earth manner. You obviously thought a long time to arrive to this conclusion.

The reason I was mentioning the pandemic is because for me the situation is critical enough as it is a global disease and not just endemic (which means localised). I am not a scientist too but as @Gogol said, the lockdown is a prevention to elude the dramatic situation of saturation for hospitals, because we can treat people with very good results if the infrastructure is adapted. You can check the difference of the mortality rate between Italy and Germany, I don't have them anymore in front of me but I remember that in march it was like 7 % in Italy and 0.5% in Germany because Germany had an infrastructure much more adapted to an epidemic than Italy... The lockdown is a way to decline the mortality rate and not have saturation of medical structures. Your thoughts are intelligent, but I know that most people underestimated the problem, check in the USA for example, people didn't care about covid for a long time and now their numbers of death are higher than all the other countries that took measures faster..

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories because they are often emotional and are targeting our feelings more than our good thinking, generally more in a sensationalist style than proof-based style.

I am not the type of guy that idealise the government too as I know that institutions don't care about people more than about the economic but in that case, I think the lockdown decisions made total sense and was the right choice for everybody

Thanks for the detailed point of view.

 

[jacvzla]

I know Coronavirus is something VERY REAL. However, if you'd like my point of view... I know the virus is a mutation between the SARS-COVID and HIV. This is something that has been studied by award winning scientists and it's something that many people need to know. I'm a health specialist myself and my faculty has been constantly studying worldwide and national cases, as well as they've been in constant communication with bigger faculties and they have come to the same conclusion.

Whether it was a mistake for it being released or not, I honestly think it's just another biological weapon designed to create massive chaos and "purge" the planet.

Super sad, but a harsh reality we are all facing. Stay safe and aware of the truth.