Boosting Views Discovery & Team work thread

[Kkrash]

So guys since alot of us are working on YT i figure we make a thread where we discuss how we all use "boosting" and aggregate all the data and strategies so we can get a better idea of what works and what doesnt work on Youtube.

Ill start off.

So my channel is very small like 500 subs..

When I post a new video (10mins or longer) I USUALLY buy 500 HR views and just leave it there.

Results
1. Sometimes I do get into suggested videos but its always for random russian videos or something unrelated lol
2. Sometimes it does nothing and I dont get anywhere

Facts
1. The views never come ASAP. Gotta wait a few hours minimum. So this might hurt the rankings maybe ...most likely.


Summary

Im keep trying.. to get my videos in to suggested videos for niches or people that match my content..but idk how to do it yet with boosting views

 

[Kkrash]

anyone?

 

[ainama]

Does HR views that you bought gave you high retention all the time? if it is a hit an miss, then it will affect your chances of getting into suggested.

 

[Kkrash]

Does HR views that you bought gave you high retention all the time? if it is a hit an miss, then it will affect your chances of getting into suggested.

Yes pretty much for now atleast!

 

[Kkrash]

Bump

 

[Cyberars]

what kind of views did you added? did you analysed the statistics on your video?
what are the hints that you get from that about the source of those views? any real interactions (likes, subs, comments) from those views?

i ask since there is a huge differences between passive bot based views and ads based views that based on real audience

 

[jasondenzer]

I've discovered that high retention views don't really boost the rankings as much as impression and click-through rates. As someone who bought HR views for multiple videos over the course of a few months, I can assure you they hardly helped give me an organic boost. I am saying this because I have had videos that organically gained 10k views and still kept getting views over time. However, buying HR views while they do get delivered and never drop, as soon as order is done, I do not get any more real views. Now you might blame my thumbnail/tags/description/quality video but believe it or not, the truth about the algorithm is you NEED good impressions and click through rates. If those HR views are from external traffic sources, it's not gonna count as much. Here's a thread that describes this pretty well: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/d...s-low-quality-views-ad-views-and-nrv.1199241/

 

[Kkrash]

I've discovered that high retention views don't really boost the rankings as much as impression and click-through rates. As someone who bought HR views for multiple videos over the course of a few months, I can assure you they hardly helped give me an organic boost. I am saying this because I have had videos that organically gained 10k views and still kept getting views over time. However, buying HR views while they do get delivered and never drop, as soon as order is done, I do not get any more real views. Now you might blame my thumbnail/tags/description/quality video but believe it or not, the truth about the algorithm is you NEED good impressions and click through rates. If those HR views are from external traffic sources, it's not gonna count as much. Here's a thread that describes this pretty well: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/d...s-low-quality-views-ad-views-and-nrv.1199241/

So basically according to the thread you posted I gotta get the views that show up as "internal" views from Youtube right? So you dont buy views anymore at all?

 

[Kkrash]

what kind of views did you added? did you analysed the statistics on your video?
what are the hints that you get from that about the source of those views? any real interactions (likes, subs, comments) from those views?

i ask since there is a huge differences between passive bot based views and ads based views that based on real audience

I always get HR views and sometimes use "suggested video" views as well...but nothing has really gotten me huge growth (10k+ views). I make vlogs mostly so its a competitive niche and I do not blast thousands of views like I said. I only buy like 500 views of HR/Suggested views for each video. Maybe thats also why im not getting organic growth or suggested because the fake growth is still too low?

**I just checked all my videos where I bought views the CTR is very low. like 1 - 2% if im lucky. There was a recent video where I did get 5% CTR but the thumbnail was actually very good so thats maybe why? But I also tried a different provider as well..

 

[LenSMM]

5% ctr is low 2% ctr is terribly low. Work on that

 

[Kkrash]

5% ctr is low 2% ctr is terribly low. Work on that

Well the problem is.. I dont know if its because the fake views themselves are driving the low CTR? I would assume so tbh right?

 

[Kkrash]

Also so below is a image of some analytics for one of my videos. Specifically the it shows all the "suggested videos" traffic for my video. Its confusing becauses its saying im getting views fro mthe suggested videos but the "impressions" are really low and the CTR is LITERALLY 0....

What does this mean?

https://imgur.com/a/OoY2GQU

 

[ebay3r]

i got my latest video with 97% of retention from panel, however, it ranked the worst one of my vids have ever ranked. This yt algo game is fuckin me up

 

[tryhard1time]

Hr Views are not the only metric that rank videos these days

 

[jasondenzer]

Also so below is a image of some analytics for one of my videos. Specifically the it shows all the "suggested videos" traffic for my video. Its confusing becauses its saying im getting views fro mthe suggested videos but the "impressions" are really low and the CTR is LITERALLY 0....

What does this mean?

https://imgur.com/a/OoY2GQU

I know there are a few SMM Panels that sell Suggested Views. While you do get views from Suggested Video sources, notice how on the screenshot, you see ZERO impressions yet a ton of views from the listed videos right? Look at the last 2 columns on the right. Those services do not provide Impressions that would've lead to click-through rates. That's why they don't make much of a difference on YT algorithm.

Look at this image for example. I purchased 5k Suggested Views. They all came from Suggested videos but NO impressions were generated.

i got my latest video with 97% of retention from panel, however, it ranked the worst one of my vids have ever ranked. This yt algo game is fuckin me up

How long was the video and mind telling me which SMM Panel you purchased these from?

 

[Kkrash]

I know there are a few SMM Panels that sell Suggested Views. While you do get views from Suggested Video sources, notice how on the screenshot, you see ZERO impressions yet a ton of views from the listed videos right? Look at the last 2 columns on the right. Those services do not provide Impressions that would've lead to click-through rates. That's why they don't make much of a difference on YT algorithm.

Look at this image for example. I purchased 5k Suggested Views. They all came from Suggested videos but NO impressions were generated.

Yea I see. Hmm so how can we get views that give impressions and CTR?

 

[jasondenzer]

Yea I see. Hmm so how can we get views that give impressions and CTR?

I'm browsing the marketplace to see if I can find one that offers such services. I've spoken to various Panels on that matter. Unfortunately so far, I haven't found such a service that offers impression/CTR-based views. But I'm trying to do my research into the BlackHat ways to rank videos higher.

 

[Beldo]

Hmm i just buy views and after like 4 days its ranked. When im not happy with position i send more views until its good enough to stay ranked for long time

 

[Kkrash]

Hmm i just buy views and after like 4 days its ranked. When im not happy with position i send more views until its good enough to stay ranked for long time

Hmm interesting..is it for a competitive niche? Like one word keyword or what?

Which views are you buying?

 

[Beldo]

Mostly mid or low competition. One main keyword put in tags description and title. And more kw in desc,tags. I use vidiq for keywrds check. Then i buy like 1-2 k on smm and i send some on ytmonster with high watchtime also... thats important until your main views arrive to keep video alive with at least little but constant views right from upload.
I think you need more subscribers i need to send sometimes 3x more views on 100 sub acc than on 800sub. Just try some sub4sub sites, sub others with alt and send to your main channel. Or buy them..