Why should anyone share free methods when we have pricks like @Stable Genius?

[SocialEyez]

There's a difference between debate and straight up accusing someone and harrassing them repeatedly. Maybe you don't need the methods. This community thrives on people sharing the methods, helping eachother out, sharing engaging content.

He criticized your method in your thread, and you name and shame him, in a way that everybody in BHW now know Stable Geious.

He is not a scammer, so it can be a whole debate to what is worse.

Even you share your method for "good will" i don't think your entitled to open threads that call out other members because you don't like how they reply to you.

If he harass you in PM's too, i am sure the mods will warn him. again no reason for calling him out. just my opinion on this.

 

[Stable Genius]

Reiterating on the above - In the real world as already said, you have to handle criticism. If you're going to stop posting threads because you're upset with his criticism, ask yourself, are you posting to help the BHW community, or inflate your ego?

On the other hand, seems @Stable Genius has a personal connection with this method, almost as if he is a Dragons' Den investor.

As I've posted detailed explanation exposing how this method is FAKE why would I post 10X information than OP breaking down step by step how his FAKE method doesnt work?

Do people typically post detailed analysis of someone's method to discourage others from doing it? I included actual potential numbers of how this method could work using OP PAID sources. OP can't explain none of the questions I've asked other than the need for FAKE ecommerce plugin of unknown source is to allow PAID ads moderators to approve and PAID ad visitors not to complain.

 

[ziko12345]

He criticized your method in your thread, and you name and shame him, in a way that everybody in BHW now know Stable Geious.

He is not a scammer, so it can be a whole debate to what is worse.

Even you share your method for "good will" i don't think your entitled to open threads that call out other members because you don't like how they reply to you.

If he harass you in PM's too, i am sure the mods will warn him. again no reason for calling him out. just my opinion on this.

Agree 100% .
I was being harassed by the most selfish and dumbass person i have ever seen and believ me i have seen a lot of dumbasses. We were talking in some thread about the relationships and stuff. And then he opens a thread that i told people to rape their girlfriend/sisters or some sh*t. I was like, wait... what... wtf. Then the mods banned him. End of story

 

[Stable Genius]

He criticized your method in your thread, and you name and shame him, in a way that everybody in BHW now know Stable Geious.

He is not a scammer, so it can be a whole debate to what is worse.

Even you share your method for "good will" i don't think your entitled to open threads that call out other members because you don't like how they reply to you.

If he harass you in PM's too, i am sure the mods will warn him. again no reason for calling him out. just my opinion on this.

Apparently by posting detailed criticism and exposing someone as FRAUD people should shit on me without addressing any of numerous lies posted by OP.

I have not PM OP ever and never plan to. I only posted replies to his thread exposing his LIES which he still didn't respond to and ONLY replying to this thread because he started it.

 

[ziko12345]

Apparently by posting detailed criticism and exposing someone as FRAUD people should shit on me without addressing any of numerous lies posted by OP.

I have not PM OP ever and never plan to. I only posted replies to his thread exposing his LIES which he still didn't respond to and ONLY replying to this thread because he started it.

Yeah sure lets put him to the justice

 

[Leader777]

Blackhatworld is getting attacked by aliens.

 

[Shreyasfc]

I think we all are going a bit crazy due to this quarantine. Lets just take a step back and chill. Heres some Bob Marley:

 

[GringoMonkey]

I do cpa and i use paid traffic and to be fair both @Stable Genius and the op @nirajjoshi are correct.

The key to the value in this method is what you do on the backend with the emails you collected.

If i had an ecom front end that generated a 25% profit, thats ok, i now have a self funding business.

If i had a range of other niche related products to then upsell them by email i would make quite a tidy profit longer term.

It is kind of how free+shipping works. I might try this instead

So dont be disheartened op, share your method, accept people will contribute positive and negative. But more importantly people can then give it their own twist.

That is where the real money is for everyone.

 

[Stable Genius]

Yeah sure lets put him to the justice

I'm just trying to set things right and exposing a FAKE person. Clearly by providing much more detailed analysis of OP method I possess enough knowledge to take basic info that he offers and transform it into detailed information that I've posted. I am tired of FAKE people offering FAKE original methods with information that just doesn't work. There are plenty of people on BHW that post genuine twists on old methods but this is not one of them. Tricking people to visit your website for FAKE things is not new method. Claiming to send PAID traffic to temporary churn and burn site that is LEGIT enough to be verified by PAID ads traffic mods (his words, not mine) to get $2.00 per email / zip submit with tier 1 traffic is not reasonable. Instead of accusing me of being a hater he could explain so many lies he was caught in with his process.

 

[nirajjoshi]

I do cpa and i use paid traffic and to be fair both @Stable Genius and the op @nirajjoshi are correct.

The key to the value in this method is what you do on the backend with the emails you collected.

If i had an ecom front end that generated a 25% profit, thats ok, i now have a self funding business.

If i had a range of other niche related products to then upsell them by email i would make quite a tidy profit longer term.

It is kind of how free+shipping works. I might try this instead

So dont be disheartened op, share your method, accept people will contribute positive and negative. But more importantly people can then give it their own twist.

That is where the real money is for everyone.

Also, the email list can be sold to someone who has the product related to list. Or you can push affiliate links.

 

[Stable Genius]

I do cpa and i use paid traffic and to be fair both @Stable Genius and the op @nirajjoshi are correct.

The key is what you do on the backend with the emails you collected.

If i had an ecom front end that generated a 25% profit, thats ok, i now have a self funding business.

If i had a range of other niche related products to then upsell them by email i would make quite a tidy profit longer term.

It is kind of how free+shipping works.

So dont be disheartened op, share your method, accept people will contribute positive and negative. But more importantly people can then give it their own twist.

That is where the real money is for everyone.

I agree with you when you collect emails for LEGIT website. How valuable is your mailing list if your subscriber joined when you tried to sell him FAKE product that he never ends up receiving? Can you continue to send email offers to same user that never received any value from associating with web store that asked to participate in CPA offer to get FAKE coupon and in the end never get any product because no payment is ever collected. Maybe my thinking is different than others but if someone made me subscribe to mailing list without ever getting me coupon or product I would NEVER respond to any offer ever sent to me and I would unsubscribe instantly and / or block them. OP claims he does this for churn and burn site not LEGIT.

Also, the email list can be sold to someone who has the product related to list. Or you can push affiliate links.

Nobody is going to purchase a mailing list you've collected from FAKE site that never sent any product to people. Why would people you tricked into your mailing list continue to subscribe when you're never delivering anything of value other than FAKE coupons & other affiliate offers?

 

[thescrrr]

After this week I started to miss the relationship questions.

 

[Deleted member 1333509]

OP there are pricks everyone online - even if you're trying to do what you think is the right thing, no one else gives a shit half the time.

If you do something where you get thanks from people, consider it a bonus - don't expect anything.

Also, if you can't defend your idea/method in the court of public opinions then you shouldn't put them out there in the first place. If you know your idea makes sense, logically break down why what he's saying is incorrect and defend it.

If you can't be bothered defending it, phase out the noise and get back to the signal.. aka mentally block him out and move on.

After this week I started to miss the relationship questions.

 

[GringoMonkey]

I agree with you when you collect emails for LEGIT website. How valuable is your mailing list if your subscriber joined when you tried to sell him FAKE product that he never ends up receiving? Can you continue to send email offers to same user that never received any value from associating with web store that asked to participate in CPA offer to get FAKE coupon and in the end never get any product because no payment is ever collected. Maybe my thinking is different than others but if someone made me subscribe to mailing list without ever getting me coupon or product I would NEVER respond to any offer ever sent to me and I would unsubscribe instantly and / or block them. OP claims he does this for churn and burn site not LEGIT.

This is the bit where you are being a bit narrow minded.

How many times have you gone to book say a flight because the ad said 90% off.
(Obviously not at the moment )

When you get there they say sorry we have sold out and upsell you.

You dont feel ripped off just dissapointed. But they have my details and if they send a follow up genuine offer that interests you, you dont hold it against them the last one sold out.

Thats why you are both right, to not have a real store with other products makes this pointless, but it is a nice hook if you do.

 

[ziko12345]

I'm just trying to set things right and exposing a FAKE person. Clearly by providing much more detailed analysis of OP method I possess enough knowledge to take basic info that he offers and transform it into detailed information that I've posted. I am tired of FAKE people offering FAKE original methods with information that just doesn't work. There are plenty of people on BHW that post genuine twists on old methods but this is not one of them. Tricking people to visit your website for FAKE things is not new method. Claiming to send PAID traffic to temporary churn and burn site that is LEGIT enough to be verified by PAID ads traffic mods (his words, not mine) to get $2.00 per email / zip submit with tier 1 traffic is not reasonable. Instead of accusing me of being a hater he could explain so many lies he was caught in with his process.

I agree that he is not sharing a new method. This coupon thing is just like showing people the game hack niche. I mean i never thought about this tbh. You are right that you should have a product (e whoring like u said, coupon like op said and game hack niche like i said) and lock it with cpa offers. Sure he didnt reveal some crazy method but you dont have to call him liar or fraud. Why not suggest more ideas and make this into a great method instead. Fighting will not bring anything good. You will start insulting each other and you will most propably just and up with a warning

 

[nirajjoshi]

OP there are pricks everyone online - even if you're trying to do what you think is the right thing, no one else gives a shit half the time.

If you do something where you get thanks from people, consider it a bonus - don't expect anything.

Also, if you can't defend your idea/method in the court of public opinions then you shouldn't put them out there in the first place. If you know your idea makes sense, logically break down why what he's saying is incorrect and defend it.

If you can't be bothered defending it, phase out the noise and get back to the signal.. aka mentally block him out and move on.

If you check the thread, I explained him few times about why I included checkout pages and his other questions. Only reply I get is "FAKE"

 

[Jyeshtha]

He criticized your method in your thread, and you name and shame him, in a way that everybody in BHW now know Stable Geious.

He is not a scammer, so it can be a whole debate to what is worse.

Even you share your method for "good will" i don't think your entitled to open threads that call out other members because you don't like how they reply to you.

If he harass you in PM's too, i am sure the mods will warn him. again no reason for calling him out. just my opinion on this.

This is exactly what I wanted to say.

BTW, I have posted my experience with a similar method in OP's another thread, but the thing is why he started another thread to blame someone.

Brother @nirajjoshi BHW is an ocean, just ignore and pass over such comments if you don't like. This is the only IM forum that's clean and active, let's keep it like that.

I have seen you posting the same exact method in a FB group and you go on cloud 9 when someone tells it works, but why aren't you ready to accept critics and defend in a healthy way.

Why I am telling the previous phrase?

Cos, in the FB group, I said I have done this and this works and you were so excited that I learnt this method from you, but I had done it even before you did.

So, when you are ready to take the appreciation without reading the comments properly, be ready to accept critics as well, which you take very seriously.

If you have started a thread to complain about such things, there is a lot more than this coming if you don't learn to ignore/defend in the same thread.

 

[nirajjoshi]

This is exactly what I wanted to say.

BTW, I have posted my experience with a similar method in OP's another thread, but the thing is why he started another thread to blame someone.

Brother @nirajjoshi BHW is an ocean, just ignore and pass over such comments if you don't like. This is the only IM forum that's clean and active, let's keep it like that.

I have seen you posting the same exact method in a FB group and you go on cloud 9 when someone tells it works, but why aren't you ready to accept critics and defend in a healthy way.

Why I am telling the previous phrase?

Cos, in the FB group, I said I have done this and this works and you were so excited that I learnt this method from you, but I had done it even before you did.

So, when you are ready to take the appreciation without reading the comments properly, be ready to accept critics as well, which you take very seriously.

If you have started a thread to complain about such things, there is a lot more than this coming if you don't learn to ignore/defend in the same thread.

Can you send me the exact screenshot where I get "so excited" and "go on cloud 9" on the Facebook group?

 

[zitanich]

To be honest I think your method is genuis, it's amazing and I already thought of a twist and I am going to apply it as soon as I can, Thanks for the share

 

[Jyeshtha]

If I find it, will definitely do. But don't have time to search for that bro. If you still want, I can send it, but after I sleep for while.