Scammed by Royserpa for $800

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BassTrackerBoats said:
You did not lay the method out - you gave some general information, he then paid and then you gave him more information.

Once he saw the whole picture he realized what you are selling is illegal.

https://prnt.sc/s7yzev

You say it is not but it is certainly illegal to send fake signups to CPA networks.

https://prnt.sc/s7yzmh

They have to sign up willfully.
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Except that we are not sending fake signups, it's real people looking for services to be provided. It's like if you paid me for each lead that's interested in buying links, but I sent you people that are interested in paid traffic, for example, then obviously, those leads won't count. Now, if I sent you leads interested in buying links but I also sent them to other few link providers, everyone wins. EXCEPT, that the networks don't pay you for ALL the leads you send their way, and that's why this method is so profitable. Obviously, fake leads or aggregated leads will never work.

Now, if OP wants to solve this, my offer is on my first post in this thread.
 
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royserpa said:
Except that we are not sending fake signups, it's real people looking for services to be provided. It's like if you paid me for each lead that's interested in buying links, but I sent you people that are interested in paid traffic, for example, then obviously, those leads won't count. Now, if I sent you leads interested in buying links but I also sent them to other few link providers, everyone wins. EXCEPT, that the networks don't pay you for ALL the leads you send their way, and that's why this method is so profitable. Obviously, fake leads or aggregated leads will never work.

Now, if OP wants to solve this, my offer is on my first post in this thread.
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THEY had to sign up, not anyone else.

That is how CPA networks operate.

Those are fake leads and you did not give him the entire method before he asked for a refund.
 
royserpa said:
You go stealth.

Man, you know how blackhat things go. IG accounts is the same way, social media, ad accounts, etc etc, it's all blackhat. Dude, we are in BlackhatWorld.
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We are not in IllegalHatWorld.

Plus he asked for a refund before the materials and complete program was shared.

I'll give you two choices to make this right:

1) Refund him minus 10%.
2) Work that illegal program as you stated you would, leave him out of it, generate what he paid you and then pay him.

I'll deal with the other one after we clear out the first one.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
We are not in IllegalHatWorld.

Plus he asked for a refund before the materials and complete program was shared.

I'll give you two choices to make this right:

1) Refund him minus 10%.
2) Work that illegal program as you stated you would, leave him out of it, generate what he paid you and then pay him.

I'll deal with the other one after we clear out the first one.
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I'll take path #2, but OP has to help with the whole set up. I'll make sure it makes money, but OP has to help.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
No,, the OP is not involved at all as it is illegal and I'm not going to put that on him.
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He won't have to do anything illegal, I'll go full stealth and OP only has to help with the setup. Nothing illegal setting everything up.
 
royserpa said:
He won't have to do anything illegal, I'll go full stealth and OP only has to help with the setup. Nothing illegal setting everything up.
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Dude, what you are doing in that method is 100% illegal and your thoughts as to using CCs is 200% illegal.

This not something to negotiate but rather something for you to follow up with ASAP.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Dude, what you are doing in that method is 100% illegal and your thoughts as to using CCs is 200% illegal.

This not something to negotiate but rather something for you to follow up with ASAP.
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Man, the method is not carding. I mentioned credit cards as OP has a cc offer on his movie site. My mistake was to mention that, but I wouldn't even try carding myself.

I'm willing to do it if OP helps with the setup. I will run everything and make money, but OP has to help. I won't put him on any illegal position and everything will be logged here in bhw, either on private or public to the mods/staff.
 
royserpa said:
Man, the method is not carding. I mentioned credit cards as OP has a cc offer on his movie site. My mistake was to mention that, but I wouldn't even try carding myself.

I'm willing to do it if OP helps with the setup. I will run everything and make money, but OP has to help. I won't put him on any illegal position and everything will be logged here in bhw, either on private or public to the mods/staff.
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Your CPA deal is illegal. We tossed people out of the network I bought from @Pofecker a hundred times for that.

You can choose 1 or 2 but the situation as to where we are going with this ends with you fulfilling one or the other per the terms outlined above.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Your CPA deal is illegal. We tossed people out of the network I bought from @Pofecker a hundred times for that.

You can choose 1 or 2 but the situation as to where we are going with this ends with you fulfilling one or the other per the terms outlined above.
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I remember @Pofecker those were great times :)

Path #2 is good, but OP has to help with the setup. There's nothing illegal on that, it's all about purchasing necessary services (proxies, ad funds, etc), so there's nothing illegal on that.

I'm willing to log everything here in bhw, either privately or publicly on a "Journey" thread, I don't mind.
 
royserpa said:
I remember @Pofecker those were great times :)

Path #2 is good, but OP has to help with the setup. There's nothing illegal on that, it's all about purchasing necessary services (proxies, ad funds, etc), so there's nothing illegal on that.

I'm willing to log everything here in bhw, either privately or publicly on a "Journey" thread, I don't mind.
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Po was great.

I'm not go though the expectations again though as to what I stated as to resolve this.

Honestly I think I'm actually being a little lenient giving you option #2 but I think it is a viable solution for both parties.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Po was great.

I'm not go though the expectations again though as to what I stated as to resolve this.

Honestly I think I'm actually being a little lenient giving you option #2 but I think it is a viable solution for both parties.
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Let's meet half-way, let's go Op and me, 50% on the costs until he gets his money back.

I'm willing to make logs on everything, either publicly or privately.
 
royserpa said:
Let's meet half-way, let's go Op and me, 50% on the costs until he gets his money back.

I'm willing to make logs on everything, either publicly or privately.
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No, we are not going anywhere other than the resolutions I offered.

But I'll say this, next time I go and buy a car I'm bring you to make the deal with the dealership.
 
telim2 said:
I also had issue with @royserpa he sold a method i have already known after explaining the method to him on BHW via PM. I contacted him since he is a reputable member of the forum with huge number of comments and likes about the method. I ask him am interested in the method provided it is not pure fraud, he told me the method is legit and i became interested in it. I checked the sales thread description on another site and found out it was about lead gen. I told him in PM that i have once seen a scam lead gen method share on bh that was sold by elliot305 which is now a banned member of the forum i explained the entire procedure to him but reply back that his own method is legit and ROI is between 200 to 300%

Below is the PM were i explain the entire scam lead gen method to @royserpa
iOfEmP5


He replied back that his stuff is legit from PM as seen above.

After making payment , i took a look at the PDF he sent me i discovered the same method i explained to him in PM that what is in the ebook and the bh method he claimed to sell, the ROI he claimed is nothing but a complete lie. He said ROI is 200 to 300% but from his own ebook ROI is not up to 50%


NIiLHxP


From the ebook his revenue is 30k and max ROI is 10k which is not even upto 50%. I asked him several questions before making payment and he assured me all his fine.


GW7oout


I can send the ebook to any MOD to go through and compare the method i told him in PM with the BHmethod he sold. Both are the same old method shared on this forum but was later removed by MOD. I sent him 0.14 BTC and this is the tx link https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/9a217d8ba979859dfbbe68ed45b051a641715c519235267001d10ca2826cd7ab
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I'm not even surprised with this person anymore. Imagine how many other people he has scammed by reselling an old method. Even worse, Royserpa may get them in legal trouble. On the other forum people are saying it's a scam and illegal too. Royserpa even admitted it's illegal himself on there: http://prntscr.com/s8w7u2.

Thanks for the help basstracker. Honestly, at this point, a refund is the only option that's gonna work for me. I thought it was a plugin/script/trick on landing page to stop CPA companies from shaving. This is something else entirely. I initially offered him to keep 10%, but now I've got to know him I know that he's not only scamming me by misrepresenting the service, he is also selling an ILLEGAL method that is NOT even his own, beside scamming everyone that buys his service, he's also scamming the original owner of the method by reselling it and he is scamming the traffic on the websites. I'm stunned. At this I think there's just two options: a full refund or a permanent ban. Honestly, I can take the loss, the 10% is not that big of a deal, it's mostly because I feel like he doesn't deserve it at all. I was trying to be nice and professional, but now I'm getting quite upset with how he's handling everything. Royserpa is basically scamming everyone here as I can see it and risking his reputation for some quick money.
 
royserpa said:
Let's meet half-way, let's go Op and me, 50% on the costs until he gets his money back.

I'm willing to make logs on everything, either publicly or privately.
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It's not about making my money back. It's that you misrepresented it. I wanted a method to stop CPA companies from shaving by optimizing lander or installing script or plugin or similar. Yet you proceeded to send me an illegal method (as you admitted on the other forum) which I don't wanna do. You did not explain or send me the method at all when I asked for the refund. I just understood a bit more about what's it about so I asked for a refund. You told me it was about collecting credit card information from traffic and signing them up on several CPA offers without them knowing and I asked for a refund. That's hardly a method, it's just fraud. It seems like it's not even your method. The more I learn, the more dirt I find.
 
JonasGreyHound said:
At this I think there's just two options: a full refund or a permanent ban.
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The decision has been rendered and we are going to stand by that.

The amount of time and energy put into this by several staff members was not without a lot of thought and what is best.

You see my face here but there are others involved in the process.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
The decision has been rendered and we are going to stand by that.

The amount of time and energy put into this by several staff members was not without a lot of thought and what is best.

You see my face here but there are others involved in the process.
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Okay, I respect your decision.
 
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