Domain redemption period experience anyone?

[Stable Genius]

So a few months ago I was looking int one domain and noticed that it was taken, I didnt pay much attention and found a similar alternative to this 3 word domain name. Today I was looking at the original domain name and noticed that owner didnt renew it in November. From what I've read there is 30 day renewal grace period but I saw there was domain name status 41 days from when it was supposed to expire. This is when the status changed to "redemption period" and from what I've read it will take 30-35 days from that before it gets deleted.

From people's past experience is it normal for domain registrar to be 11 days late to change status? When it is in redemption period do you think it start from real domain expiration date or potentially from their 11 day late update of status.

 

[CustomReviews]

If the administrator has not renewed the domain before the expiration of its registration period, domain delegation is suspended and a period begins during which it is impossible to carry out any operations with the domain name other than renewal. This period lasts approximately 45 days, depending on the zone in which the domain was registered.

 

[osake]

Typically there's a Redemption Period and a Grace Period.

The Redemption Period occurs the first 30 days after a domain's expiry date. The registrant of that domain can still renew this domain at the regular renewal price if he/she wishes to without incurring any additional fees. However, if the domain enters the Grace Period, a second 30 day window after the Redemption Period, the registrant would typically have to pay a fairly high fee (typically ranging anywhere from $100-$200) on top of the domain's renewal price.

Depending who the domain is registered through (a registrar or reseller) there might be a slight delay in the domain's actual status. However, both registrars and resellers are usually fairly quick at updating a domain's status.

 

[Stable Genius]

Typically there's a Redemption Period and a Grace Period.

The Redemption Period occurs the first 30 days after a domain's expiry date. The registrant of that domain can still renew this domain at the regular renewal price if he/she wishes to without incurring any additional fees. However, if the domain enters the Grace Period, a second 30 day window after the Redemption Period, the registrant would typically have to pay a fairly high fee (typically ranging anywhere from $100-$200) on top of the domain's renewal price.

Depending who the domain is registered through (a registrar or reseller) there might be a slight delay in the domain's actual status. However, both registrars and resellers are usually fairly quick at updating a domain's status.

Both of the people that responded just repeated information I already knew and posted myself. As I said I know there is 30 days grace period and followed by 30 days redemption period. Domain I'm looking at is already 60 days beyond expiration. I wanted to know why this domain changed status to redemption period 41 days after expiration (why not 30 days like its supposed to be) and if people seen that this type of scenario before. I also wanted to know if 11 day being late from changing to redemption period will cause a delay until domain will be deleted.

Since it seems that domain is already 60+ days beyond expiration I will assume that it will be deleted after 71+ days. I've bought many expired domains but never caught one accidentally few days before expected deletion and trying to figure out registrar's behavior. If they can delay status change for expiring domain by 11 days what stops them from not delaying it by 30 days next time or more. Obviously it is beneficial for registrar to keep grace & redemption periods as long as possible for a higher chance of renewal but if they make them arbitrary then it defeats the purpose having these periods.

 

[osake]

Obviously it is beneficial for registrar to keep grace & redemption periods as long as possible for a higher chance of renewal but if they make them arbitrary then it defeats the purpose having these periods.

The registrar can do whatever it likes. They could technically renew the domain on the back-end and hope the customer still "renews" the domain + collect their fee. I've seen registrars go a total of 90 days.

Understand that even though checks and policies are in place (i.e., why ICANN introduced redemption and grace periods) to prevent people from losing their domains for various reasons due to something like incorrect billing information that was never updated. It's much better for a registrar or reseller to allow the original registrant to renew the domain for as long as they can (even if it means the registrar or reseller eats the cost to renew the domain anyway) than to deal with an upset customer and some sort of legal issue/battle with the customer claiming they renewed their domain and it's the registrar/reseller fault (*laughs*)

 

[Stable Genius]

The registrar can do whatever it likes. They could technically renew the domain on the back-end and hope the customer still "renews" the domain + collect their fee. I've seen registrars go a total of 90 days.

Understand that even though checks and policies are in place (i.e., why ICANN introduced redemption and grace periods) to prevent people from losing their domains for various reasons due to something like incorrect billing information that was never updated. It's much better for a registrar or reseller to allow the original registrant to renew the domain for as long as they can (even if it means the registrar or reseller eats the cost to renew the domain anyway) than to deal with an upset customer and some sort of legal issue/battle with the customer claiming they renewed their domain and it's the registrar/reseller fault (*laughs*)

Thanks for providing valid input. I feel I'm in this situation with this registrar. I also made a mistake of checking whois on their website (previously I was doing it elsewhere). When I checked it this week (60+ days after expiration) it told me domain was not available, didnt allow me to do whois but there was a message saying to contact their sales team if I'm interested. I hope this didnt trigger something internally which would cause them to hold on to domain longer. In a few days it will be 60 days since status changed to redemption period (11 days late). Let's see what will happen.

 

[osake]

Are you certain this place is actually a registrar? A lot of this shady type of behavior usually happens, from what I've witnessed over the years, from resellers (companies acting as domain registrars but are reselling through accredited registrars such as ENOM by integrating domain search, registration/transfer functionality into their platforms via API) with search and WHOIS search pages that they log.

 

[Stable Genius]

Are you certain this place is actually a registrar? A lot of this shady type of behavior usually happens, from what I've witnessed over the years, from resellers (companies acting as domain registrars but are reselling through accredited registrars such as ENOM by integrating domain search, registration/transfer functionality into their platforms via API) with search and WHOIS search pages that they log.

In this case its the grand ol' daddy of all registrars This domain is now 70+ days since it was supposed to expire, 60+ days since redemption period started.

 

[Stable Genius]

Update and closure to this drama.

So I've waited for the 71st day since expiration to happen to see if status will change. I didnt see it at teh exact 71 day mark but checked the next day and the status changed to PendingDelete. I've patiently waited 5 days for it to be deleted but it didnt happen on 5th day. I've checked it mid day 6th day and it was finally deleted and I scooped it up.