Transferwise stealth accounts

[OrangeMaster8695]

Every single transferwise stealth account I tried to open has been shut down. I even sent them carefully crafted 'creative' documents but the account gets closed within 1-3 days, usually right after the initial deposit clears.

Anyone have experience with opening transferwise accounts? They likely have some sort of way to tell who lives at what address - that's at least my theory. So it appears to be much difficult to use a different name/address with TW than with other services like Paypal

 

[augustwu]

They don’t know the address

 

[James2774]

What is your need for a stealth transferwise?
Maybe there is a better solution

 

[OrangeMaster8695]

What is your need for a stealth transferwise?
Maybe there is a better solution

At the moment, it's just generating USA VBAs to add to Canadian paypals.

 

[James2774]

At the moment, it's just generating USA VBAs to add to Canadian paypals.

So you need to cash out your paypal into USD, so you need USD bank accounts, is this correct?
How much volume are you doing?

 

[darkwalker2019]

So you need to cash out your paypal into USD, so you need USD bank accounts, is this correct?
How much volume are you doing?

Hi, sounds like you have a solution for a USD Bank account. I am interested in it. Can you provide me with the detail?

 

[OrangeMaster8695]

Tried buying Transferwise account from a user that DM'ed me (@busyangel) but after I sent him the payment, I never got a response from him. Didn't reply here because I thought I had a solution.

So you need to cash out your paypal into USD, so you need USD bank accounts, is this correct?
How much volume are you doing?

Yes and no. Basically, the transferwise accounts would allow me to not worry about purchasing VBAs from users every time I need a paypal verified. Also, I'd be able to cash out small amounts via bank transfer which is also helpful, but not large amounts. These paypals aren't limited.

 

[James2774]

Hi, sounds like you have a solution for a USD Bank account. I am interested in it. Can you provide me with the detail?

Just email or skype me with your questions and Ill see what you might need sure.

Yes and no. Basically, the transferwise accounts would allow me to not worry about purchasing VBAs from users every time I need a paypal verified. Also, I'd be able to cash out small amounts via bank transfer which is also helpful, but not large amounts. These paypals aren't limited.

How often do you need new paypals, and why do they keep getting shut down?
Are they getting shut down bc of the VBAs?
If so, I assume your solution isnt to chase new VBAs, but simply find a real bank account that will work with PayPal legit, correct?

 

[M4DM4X]

Maybe your fake documents were not bullet proof .There are algorithms that detect faking ,image pixel modifications

 

[OrangeMaster8695]

How often do you need new paypals, and why do they keep getting shut down?
Are they getting shut down bc of the VBAs?
If so, I assume your solution isnt to chase new VBAs, but simply find a real bank account that will work with PayPal legit, correct?

Well I sell virtual gaming items, so they get shut down due to sudden increase in sales, high risk overall, above-average chargebacks, etc
Paypal accs that I have used previously for this didn't actually have any banks or cards attached to them. I've only recently started making it a practice to put bank accs on paypals. With that being said, I end up either using my real bank accs (which isn't preferred) or end up paying $10-20 per VBA and no guarantee it will work with Canadian paypals. So it would be nice to figure out how to make them myself.

Maybe your fake documents were not bullet proof .There are algorithms that detect faking ,image pixel modifications

Interesting theory. It's possible. I'll try a few more things now that I think about it

 

[3hlut]

Tried buying Transferwise account from a user that DM'ed me (@busyangel) but after I sent him the payment, I never got a response from him. Didn't reply here because I thought I had a solution.



Yes and no. Basically, the transferwise accounts would allow me to not worry about purchasing VBAs from users every time I need a paypal verified. Also, I'd be able to cash out small amounts via bank transfer which is also helpful, but not large amounts. These paypals aren't limited.

open a shitlist he also tried to sell me a wirex account for $150

 

[Tozzy]

They don’t know the address

In the US they might know. @OrangeMaster8695 do you open accounts using USA credentials? If you do you need the correct SSN and DOB and if I am right they could discover address using background report check.

 

[OrangeMaster8695]

In the US they might know. @OrangeMaster8695 do you open accounts using USA credentials? If you do you need the correct SSN and DOB and if I am right they could discover address using background report check.

My USA accounts actually lasted the longest (with ID from secondeye solutions)
It's the Canadian ones with home-made ID that got shut down pretty quick. On one account I tried, I never even sent them ID, but they shut the account down the moment the $20 payment cleared (I used a prepaid debit for that).

 

[Tozzy]

My USA accounts actually lasted the longest (with ID from secondeye solutions)
It's the Canadian ones with home-made ID that got shut down pretty quick. On one account I tried, I never even sent them ID, but they shut the account down the moment the $20 payment cleared (I used a prepaid debit for that).

Was the data you submitted real or made up? In canada they also have means to verify it IIRC.
Maybe secondeye uses data of real people.

You're opening these accounts using clean residential IP and clean browser are you? Which card did you use? Maybe the card has AVS?

 

[M4DM4X]

Was the data you submitted real or made up? In canada they also have means to verify it IIRC.
Maybe secondeye uses data of real people.

You're opening these accounts using clean residential IP and clean browser are you? Which card did you use? Maybe the card has AVS?

you mean secondeye is stealing people's identity? wow if it's the case that's a very serious crime, and both him and you are risking a lot of trouble.

 

[Tozzy]

you mean secondeye is stealing people's identity? wow if it's the case that's a very serious crime, and both him and you are risking a lot of trouble.

I am not accusing anyone of anything, but with the US for example you need to submit your DOB and SSN in order to register in most if not all payment systems/financial services. Well, I leave it for you to think how said data could be obtained lol.

In practice if you're in 3rd world country it's not a large risk to use some Joe's data (not talking about moral or ethical side or encouraging this, rather just theorizing).

 

[OrangeMaster8695]

Was the data you submitted real or made up? In canada they also have means to verify it IIRC.
Maybe secondeye uses data of real people.

You're opening these accounts using clean residential IP and clean browser are you? Which card did you use? Maybe the card has AVS?

Secondeye can't be stealing identities because he goes by the data you give him when you place the order - in my case, always made up data.
Not sure how they (TW) verify in Canada.
Accounts are opened on either RDPs or VPNs. The VPNs do get by Netflix's blocking though - so they are better than average quality IPs. Card is my own bank-issued prepaid card, and I think it has AVS, but I was under the impression that TW does not verify address as their 'enter card #' screen does not ask for a billing address. Sometimes, identity validation was required as well as 'top up $20' validation. Other times, it's only one or the other. I guess I am a long way from figuring out their system.

 

[James2774]

What kind of sales volume monthly have you been getting while accounts are active?

 

[OrangeMaster8695]

What kind of sales volume monthly have you been getting while accounts are active?

On Transferwise or Paypal?

None of my stealth TW accounts have processed a single dollar. Some of them did require an initial deposit of $20 but that deposit hardly even clears before the acc gets closed.

 

[Instaboy85]

Every single transferwise stealth account I tried to open has been shut down. I even sent them carefully crafted 'creative' documents but the account gets closed within 1-3 days, usually right after the initial deposit clears.

Anyone have experience with opening transferwise accounts? They likely have some sort of way to tell who lives at what address - that's at least my theory. So it appears to be much difficult to use a different name/address with TW than with other services like Paypal

My experience with online payment solutions is that they are very through on due diligence... so no matter what ways you find to get around it will probably get suspended and you risk getting your funds locked out