[Instagram Journey] old school VS. new school ** (automation)

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Hey everyone,
I'm an old school automater who used to run thousands of accounts!

I'm running many tests in this journey to put your worries to rest (newbies)

I have a variety of accounts willingly at risk.
The survivors will be for my own use.
Then I may create a BST in 2020, as I continue.

Here's what I'm testing:

- non-warmed
- warmed
- non-EV
- EV
- Non PVA
- PVA
- variety of niches within each quality category above
- variety of automation software listed on BHW
- variety of creation software on BHW
- variety of locations
- variety of proxy quality
- manual VS. automation restrictions / creation
- blank VS. customized profiles
- tool which triggers easiest issues
- what instagram see's, and you don't
- much more!


Here's what I've done so far:
- setting up accounts in categories above
- sampling BHW acc sellers
- buying from BHW sellers
- creating my own 3g, 4g accs (5g soon)
- warming up + releasing dummies
- much more

****** to be continued
 
Wow, looks like you have thought of a lot of parameters to test here!

IG still has a lot to offer and I believe it can still be automated with success.
 
Good luck! What is your goal to promote cpa or grow accounts in order to sell them?
Thank you, and since instagram traffic will become high quality after the strictly enforced updates (I've even ranked #2 on google with only instagram traffic)

I plan to use my accounts to promote my websites. To do it properly, I've considered paying for 100 relevant domains per year, and spread them among my accounts (all domains will redirect to 1 landing page, which redirects to the real website after I gather visit/conversion information for remarketing)

And so on,

All the best
Thank you! Let me know if you have any suggestions

Wow, looks like you have thought of a lot of parameters to test here!

IG still has a lot to offer and I believe it can still be automated with success.
I've had complete success so far
- 95% creation success (the 5% is my own error for being cheap in this journey)

- 99% warm up success

- 100% start up success

I'll be posting screenshots here once numbers are high enough to hide my current tactics.
As I expand & improve, I'll let everybody know what I did (definitely could be a learning experience for everyone)

Edit; so far IP doesn't matter, unless it's ipv6 which it's clearly abused by now
 
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This is hell load of testing! Looking forward to your success
Make sure you're following!
Any experienced instagram automater will ignore this thread to avoid bumping it and threating their potential
 
As a newcomer to automation I'll certainly be following along to pick up some tips and insights. Look forward to seeing some of your results
 
I've noticed when doing PV's that when the text comes through, sometimes they are sent from Instagram and sometimes they are sent from Facebook. It seems pretty random but maybe worth logging this and see if there's any difference between FB or IG authenticated acc's?
 
Excellent journey I will be following

Q: For your 100 domains, why would they just be a landing page? Why not make each of them a full blown website with new articles, Feed articles from other websites in the niches using WP Automatic, videos from Youtube, an Amazon Store with a few cherry picked products and a T-Shirt shop using some niche related designs?

That way each domain is a profit center in it's own right and pays for itself regardless of what happens in your marketing experiments.

Also it might be interesting to see if the Instagram account that you out feed to from that domain site is more trusted than an Instagram account by itself. You can also in feed from related Instagram accounts to that domain and that might make that domain even more trusted.

Another thing in your experiment to test would be if an Instagram account is connected to a post scheduler that is an Instagram Partner (like Later.com) does that make the account more trusted and will it last longer.

And another thing to test would be if the bio link is replaced by a multiple bio link service (like Lnk.bio) does it help the trust score. That is a manual action to implement that, not something done by a bot. The more "human like" things done to the account, the better.

Sincerely,

TheEye
 
As a newcomer to automation I'll certainly be following along to pick up some tips and insights. Look forward to seeing some of your results
If you have any suggestions to be tested, just let us know here!

I've noticed when doing PV's that when the text comes through, sometimes they are sent from Instagram and sometimes they are sent from Facebook. It seems pretty random but maybe worth logging this and see if there's any difference between FB or IG authenticated acc's?
Thanks for pointing that out, that's making me believe Facebook auth. For instagram = low-trust-score, (since Facebook security system is more in-depth)

Out of the 1% of accounts that had an error / loop, 1 account is very bad so far (with non stop issues even when nothing is happening to the account & I change everything) and I noticed it was an instagram email, but within the email message text, saying "Facebook, hi ×××"

The account was created properly, High quality.
But I connected to (an assumed) flagged ipv6 proxy which was leading me to believe that all ipv6 was flagged (w/ all the tall lately).... Until I created+warmed up an account created on an ipv6? (the rest got denied, only 1 accepted, and perfectly fine for now. So my conclusion is the ipv6 I tested so far have just been abused), but still Interesting.

Excellent journey I will be following

Q: For your 100 domains, why would they just be a landing page? Why not make each of them a full blown website with new articles, Feed articles from other websites in the niches using WP Automatic, videos from Youtube, an Amazon Store with a few cherry picked products and a T-Shirt shop using some niche related designs?

That way each domain is a profit center in it's own right and pays for itself regardless of what happens in your marketing experiments.

Also it might be interesting to see if the Instagram account that you out feed to from that domain site is more trusted than an Instagram account by itself. You can also in feed from related Instagram accounts to that domain and that might make that domain even more trusted.

Another thing in your experiment to test would be if an Instagram account is connected to a post scheduler that is an Instagram Partner (like Later.com) does that make the account more trusted and will it last longer.

And another thing to test would be if the bio link is replaced by a multiple bio link service (like Lnk.bio) does it help the trust score. That is a manual action to implement that, not something done by a bot. The more "human like" things done to the account, the better.

Sincerely,

TheEye
I appreciate all your suggestions!
They're noted, and I will definitely experiment with them & I'll share the results here + quote you!

& Towards your idea with my domains, that's a really good idea!
I've been brainstorming ideas on how to build more traffic + backlinks to my original website , and I could definitely use the relevant sites in the end, while making extra streams of income!

In my experience, my current domains ranking on Google have all been from big influencer accounts + my own traffic (tons of real people coming from Instagram) & I easily ranked above years/months old detailed & trusted forums & sites. It seems to be more about steady trusted traffic - compared to volumes (within reason, and niches)

So I could only assume, instagram could track & appreciate real viewers coming to their website/app (your profile/post) steadily too, from other websites/sources in the same way, and you'll get brownie points on your account/device/ip/trust score/etc

What I'll try, is a weaker warm up, but a strong domain linking in/out (etc), and see how it holds up against others with a similar/stronger warm up, while testing a few other aspects & see what happens.

I think the key for this part to work/benefit, is I'll need inbound+outbound traffic coming from+to the domain from+to instagram. So google see's real traffic & instagram see's real traffic (compared to a spam domain, or spam account)
 
1. Instagram traffic doesn't rank any website...even if you get millions traffic, Google john mueller and matt cutts said that thing thousand of time.

2. If your all 100 domain redirect to any specific website, then instagram can detect that, because their crawler/spider use latest browser render engine, it means they will follow your 100 of URL(behind redirection) if it return 301/302 HTTP status code.

Good luck btw :)
 
1. Instagram traffic doesn't rank any website...even if you get millions traffic, Google john mueller and matt cutts said that thing thousand of time.

2. If your all 100 domain redirect to any specific website, then instagram can detect that, because their crawler/spider use latest browser render engine, it means they will follow your 100 of URL(behind redirection) if it return 301/302 HTTP status code.

Good luck btw :)

1. I'm not concerned about what anybody says about this specific tactic, because I've done it - and experienced it, so I'll continue doing what I experience working for me.
Which was strictly Instagram Influencer traffic. Whether they returned directly or searched me up after seeing me on instagram, that's non of my business, and the low % of smart people doing that won't help me rank high/relevantly - my point is already proven for me personally. I've done it on 3 sites & now expanding

2. This is why I'm considering free landing pages which are provided online. So multiple links can redirect to 1 landing page, but not all 100 for example.

& Thank you
 
That fucking anybody is matt cutts and John Mueller... They are from google core search team. (Not matt cutts now).

If you start SEO from scratch, then you will know that, Google first crawl webpages and then index it on their search database, and then rank it based on their 200+ signals.

But in the first case, social media sites like Facebook and Instagram don't allowed Google to crawl their webpages, then how big G can use it on their search ranking algorithm?

Here is official statement from G webmaster -
 
That fucking anybody is matt cutts and John Mueller... They are from google core search team. (Not matt cutts now).

If you start SEO from scratch, then you will know that, Google first crawl webpages and then index it on their search database, and then rank it based on their 200+ signals.

But in the first case, social media sites like Facebook and Instagram don't allowed Google to crawl their webpages, then how big G can use it on their search ranking algorithm?

Here is official statement from G webmaster -
Interesting, maybe I'm getting lucky :D
 
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