The super immoral technique from hell to make a shit-ton of money promoting online casinos

[Jarvannis]

I'm pretty sure at some point he said that he gets 300% of every deposit, and gave an example of someone betting 500$ that got him 1500$, which is complete utter bullshit.

yeah that's what 300% CPA on deposit means haha

 

[mo006]

yeah that's what 300% CPA on deposit means haha

Isn't CPA a fix number, like you get 50$ for each new member, regardless of what he deposit.

When you get a percentage of what the member deposit, that's rev share.

Or am I wrong?

 

[Jarvannis]

Isn't CPA a fix number, like you get 50$ for each new member, regardless of what he deposit.

When you get a percentage of what the member deposit, that's rev share.

Or am I wrong?

Usually you are right. But CPA means "Cost per Acquisition", stricto senso it's what you get when you "acquire" a new client, customer, etc

 

[mankarc]

sadly yesterday some idiot got a win streak on the roulette and made me lose a lot of $.. good news is my video seems to be doing really good and already made back in 1 day what i lost yesterday, i dont think OP is lying because im getting some little profit myself (keep in mind recently started, so if you been working on this for a few months and your video took off what he is saying is completely doable.)

 

[Jarvannis]

sadly yesterday some idiot got a win streak on the roulette and made me lose a lot of $.. good news is my video seems to be doing really good and already made back in 1 day what i lost yesterday, i dont think OP is lying because im getting some little profit myself (keep in mind recently started, so if you been working on this for a few months and your video took off what he is saying is completely doable.)

thanks for report. Sure the more traffic you'll get, the more you'll earn. Can't you ask for CPA ?

Did you make an english video ?

 

[nouveauriche]

I'm pretty sure at some point he said that he gets 300% of every deposit, and gave an example of someone betting 500$ that got him 1500$, which is complete utter bullshit.

Every FIRST deposit.

My theory is it's more likely you're trying to see if you can get gullible marketers into doing things you say; you're a self-described sociopath after all right? It's an interesting social test which can benefit both sides though. For the reader/member, they get to try-out a method which on the surface could work and they too will make thousands per week according to you, just by making a betting system video on putting on YT. The bi-product is a positive one though in that they might gain some experience making videos, coming-up with story-lines or narrations or just trying their first method etc. For you it's being able to manipulate people (or perhaps even worse).

Looking at this broadly, anyone can do this method but as with any marketing method, most will fail. But why? Someone saying "this works" because they made their first commission is type of person you want; it further strengthens your "pull" over people. Yes, any method can work on a small/micro scale. I can go stand next to a highway off-ramp, hold a cardboard sign that says "visit XYZ.com." Maybe I'll get lucky and get some hits or a conversion, but does the method really work?

My guess is you do have experience sending traffic this way, but your results are far below what you're claiming. So you decided to utilize this method a different way; to scratch that itch by getting others to do exactly what you say and in return they'll get easy money. It's no different than what your video(s) would promise to the gambler, but instead of money you'd gain social status with your wits. You see other variations of this such as someone re-posting an old method or a method that they can't personally use in order to gain likes, followers, status, etc... But I don't think that matters to you as much as the feeling of being able to control/manipulate members into doing exactly what you say.

There's many holes in your story/claims. Here's a couple:

1. Betting systems are strictly against the Terms of most/all casinos, yet your video teaches a betting system which the viewers' will implement that exact system. From the affiliate network side, they will see all your leads/depositors are going straight to roulette and betting the same exact way. You mentioned having a fake/front site which talks about some random games and how fun they are to play, which then leads to the casino. The casino knows your site and can see all your traffic is doing something completely different. Now this may work with a handful of leads but you're talking about "25k a week" in rev from traffic that casinos don't want and specifically ban player accounts for. How do you explain that? Did your casino work out a deal where they're cool with it? If so, why wouldn't you talk about that very important relationship dynamic in your OP?

2. Your CPA rate is 300% the deposited amount correct? This can only be achieved through some sort of special arrangement with the casino from my understanding. In order to get it they looked at your traffic of course right? Your traffic must be depositing on average 4-5x over their initial deposit for the casino to make money (either short or long-term). Let's assume the casino is cool with the idea of tricking people to deposit (which they wouldn't be), the player-type you'd need to achieve this needs to be a degenerate gambler and also a fool to fall for it. Sure, some will be that but on average most will not be.

So what does that mean for the casino's on average deposit? Well, it brings that number up of course. Instead of 4-5x at 100% of your players, you can bring it to 8-10x at 50% or 16-20x at 25%, etc... What this means is because 100% of people aren't going to deposit 4-5x their initial deposit amount in order for the casino to make money (and to justify paying you 300%), the casino needs to determine what the average amount will be per player over LTV. I have no clue what that number is but paying an affiliate 300% CPA doesn't add up. Oh yeah, what if they actually do win? Some will of course and now that means less deposits which skews the above number even further.

3. You keep saying "going to stop soon" but that makes no sense. Why would you? Why not just switch traffic to a different casino and repeat? Why not just make another video in the biz opp or real estate niche and do the same thing? According to you your video is so persuasive that after watching it "you even fall for it." You bragged about how someone killing themselves over your video would be a badge of honor (and countless other moronic statements), yet you don't want to make too much money because you don't want to have a bad name if caught? You claim everything is legal but the reality is nobody here is a lawyer and/or prosecutor and/or District Attorney so saying such things is reckless to the people who will be trying this method.

In closing, I do think this method can work small-scale along with spreading-out the traffic to various networks mixed-in with multiple videos which have the viewers playing many different games and depositing different amounts. To not do so would be, well, stupid. As to OP's claim of making 25k/week from this method, it's either all fabricated in order to have people do what he says (control), he's leaving out important details and/or reality checks (video hit the viral lottery) or he's using stolen CCs to trigger the commissions. Any method can work micro-scale, just be careful if/when you decide to take a blackhat method further. Like I said earlier in this thread,it's good to get ideas/methods like this flowing on the forum, even if it's predicated from a sociopath's need to manipulate.

You spelled “thank you” wrong.

I am not from an english speaking country. So CPA measn you can get fixed commission if you get one people to deposit? Reshare means you can get some money from their deposit? Am I right?

CPA means “cost per action” (for the casino) meaning they could pay you a fixed amount for any action a lead does, like 1$ for a new lead, 50$ for a 20$ deposit, 300% on deposits... This kind of stuff.
Revshare means revenue share, meaning you earn a portion of the money the casino makes with your referrals, meaning if someone you brought bets 1k and loses you earn 200$ (that’s with a 20% revshare).

 

[lishu44275]

Every FIRST deposit.

You spelled “thank you” wrong.

CPA means “cost per action” (for the casino) meaning they could pay you a fixed amount for any action a lead does, like 1$ for a new lead, 50$ for a 20$ deposit, 300% on deposits... This kind of stuff.
Revshare means revenue share, meaning you earn a portion of the money the casino makes with your referrals, meaning if someone you brought bets 1k and loses you earn 200$ (that’s with a 20% revshare).

thx, looks like CPA is a better option..

 

[mankarc]

thx, looks like CPA is a better option..

Yes of course it is, but getting it from a legit & known casino while you are just starting will be difficult, im pretty sure they test your traffic first and bla bla bla. i went with revshare cause you get % out of EVERY deposit they make.

 

[Yoblo]

My theory is it's more likely you're trying to see if you can get gullible marketers into doing things you say; you're a self-described sociopath after all right? It's an interesting social test which can benefit both sides though. For the reader/member, they get to try-out a method which on the surface could work and they too will make thousands per week according to you, just by making a betting system video on putting on YT. The bi-product is a positive one though in that they might gain some experience making videos, coming-up with story-lines or narrations or just trying their first method etc. For you it's being able to manipulate people (or perhaps even worse).

Looking at this broadly, anyone can do this method but as with any marketing method, most will fail. But why? Someone saying "this works" because they made their first commission is type of person you want; it further strengthens your "pull" over people. Yes, any method can work on a small/micro scale. I can go stand next to a highway off-ramp, hold a cardboard sign that says "visit XYZ.com." Maybe I'll get lucky and get some hits or a conversion, but does the method really work?

My guess is you do have experience sending traffic this way, but your results are far below what you're claiming. So you decided to utilize this method a different way; to scratch that itch by getting others to do exactly what you say and in return they'll get easy money. It's no different than what your video(s) would promise to the gambler, but instead of money you'd gain social status with your wits. You see other variations of this such as someone re-posting an old method or a method that they can't personally use in order to gain likes, followers, status, etc... But I don't think that matters to you as much as the feeling of being able to control/manipulate members into doing exactly what you say.

There's many holes in your story/claims. Here's a couple:

1. Betting systems are strictly against the Terms of most/all casinos, yet your video teaches a betting system which the viewers' will implement that exact system. From the affiliate network side, they will see all your leads/depositors are going straight to roulette and betting the same exact way. You mentioned having a fake/front site which talks about some random games and how fun they are to play, which then leads to the casino. The casino knows your site and can see all your traffic is doing something completely different. Now this may work with a handful of leads but you're talking about "25k a week" in rev from traffic that casinos don't want and specifically ban player accounts for. How do you explain that? Did your casino work out a deal where they're cool with it? If so, why wouldn't you talk about that very important relationship dynamic in your OP?

2. Your CPA rate is 300% the deposited amount correct? This can only be achieved through some sort of special arrangement with the casino from my understanding. In order to get it they looked at your traffic of course right? Your traffic must be depositing on average 4-5x over their initial deposit for the casino to make money (either short or long-term). Let's assume the casino is cool with the idea of tricking people to deposit (which they wouldn't be), the player-type you'd need to achieve this needs to be a degenerate gambler and also a fool to fall for it. Sure, some will be that but on average most will not be.

So what does that mean for the casino's on average deposit? Well, it brings that number up of course. Instead of 4-5x at 100% of your players, you can bring it to 8-10x at 50% or 16-20x at 25%, etc... What this means is because 100% of people aren't going to deposit 4-5x their initial deposit amount in order for the casino to make money (and to justify paying you 300%), the casino needs to determine what the average amount will be per player over LTV. I have no clue what that number is but paying an affiliate 300% CPA doesn't add up. Oh yeah, what if they actually do win? Some will of course and now that means less deposits which skews the above number even further.

3. You keep saying "going to stop soon" but that makes no sense. Why would you? Why not just switch traffic to a different casino and repeat? Why not just make another video in the biz opp or real estate niche and do the same thing? According to you your video is so persuasive that after watching it "you even fall for it." You bragged about how someone killing themselves over your video would be a badge of honor (and countless other moronic statements), yet you don't want to make too much money because you don't want to have a bad name if caught? You claim everything is legal but the reality is nobody here is a lawyer and/or prosecutor and/or District Attorney so saying such things is reckless to the people who will be trying this method.

In closing, I do think this method can work small-scale along with spreading-out the traffic to various networks mixed-in with multiple videos which have the viewers playing many different games and depositing different amounts. To not do so would be, well, stupid. As to OP's claim of making 25k/week from this method, it's either all fabricated in order to have people do what he says (control), he's leaving out important details and/or reality checks (video hit the viral lottery) or he's using stolen CCs to trigger the commissions. Any method can work micro-scale, just be careful if/when you decide to take a blackhat method further. Like I said earlier in this thread,it's good to get ideas/methods like this flowing on the forum, even if it's predicated from a sociopath's need to manipulate.

In the time you spent thinking about and writing this post, you could have made a video and gotten several thousand views and some signups.

 

[Elliot305]

In the time you spent thinking about and writing this post, you could have made a video and gotten several thousand views and some signups.

The time I spent writing in this thread is to help community members look at this method more objectively. I'm not interested in making fake videos rank on YT for a betting system. I have real exploits that can be used at anytime against casinos (as shown in my previous video). I am interested in the outcomes of the participants and appreciate OP for helping them along the way. Why he can't explain/answer some basic questions is telling though and should raise red flags.

 

[Yoblo]

The time I spent writing in this thread is to help community members look at this method more objectively. I'm not interested in making fake videos rank on YT for a betting system. I have real exploits that can be used at anytime against casinos (as shown in my previous video). I am interested in the outcomes of the participants and appreciate OP for helping them along the way. Why he can't explain/answer some basic questions is telling though and should raise red flags.

I look at everything with a skeptical eye. But it seems that a few people in this thread have put a great amount of energy into disproving his claims, when he stands to gain nothing from lying. Perhaps he's playing the long game, but I doubt it. It doesn't really matter, either way it's a decent idea, and his earnings don't affect yours in any way whether you do this or not, so it doesn't really matter if he's lying or not.

Also, when you say something absurd like "I have real exploits that can beat casinos," when casinos are mathematically unbeatable, it calls the things that YOU say into question too.

 

[Elliot305]

Also, when you say something absurd like "I have real exploits that can beat casinos," when casinos are mathematically unbeatable, it calls the things that YOU say into question too.

lol ok buddy:

p.s., I used to do game-protection consulting for online casinos, so yeah, casinos aren't unbeatable when someone finds a vulnerability.

 

[Yoblo]

lol ok buddy:

p.s., I used to do game-protection consulting for online casinos, so yeah, casinos aren't unbeatable when someone finds a vulnerability.

I haven’t tested this personally on either of these, so I cannot say whether or not this works. But if this actually works on either casino, how are they not bankrupt, and why would you make a video showing how to do it when you could just rape them yourself? Is this working today or is this a past vulnerability?

 

[Elliot305]

I haven’t tested this personally on either of these, so I cannot say whether or not this works. But if this actually works on either casino, how are they not bankrupt, and why would you make a video showing how to do it when you could just rape them yourself? Is this working today or is this a past vulnerability?

Haven't tested those vulnerabilities since I uploaded the video earlier this month. If any of the viewers took advantage of them, I'd say they're closed now. As for your question as why the casinos are not bankrupt, it doesn't work that way. You need a lot of nuisance with an exit/cashout strategy rather than just winning a million in one shot. Just like with an affiliate network and OP's method, he neglected to address this crucial factor (which is a red flag to me). You think this casino just let me take a mill from them when I won it?:

 

[nouveauriche]

The time I spent writing in this thread is to help community members look at this method more objectively. I'm not interested in making fake videos rank on YT for a betting system. I have real exploits that can be used at anytime against casinos (as shown in my previous video). I am interested in the outcomes of the participants and appreciate OP for helping them along the way. Why he can't explain/answer some basic questions is telling though and should raise red flags.

It seems like i missed something, what are those basic questions you asked? I'd gladly answer any question about this method as i wouldn't be surprised if i forgot to mention something important in the main post.

 

[Studio8]

It seems like i missed something, what are those basic questions you asked? I'd gladly answer any question about this method as i wouldn't be surprised if i forgot to mention something important in the main post.

All the casinos I found offer to play with fake balance to try things out.

Don't you think the majority of people will try the method for free, see that it doesn't work, then fuck off?

 

[jondi]

OP, if you don't mind my asking, roughly what's your conversion rate per, let's say, 1000 clicks? That is, of those who clicked the link in the description and found themselves on your "landing page", how many then proceed to make actual deposits?

 

[nouveauriche]

All the casinos I found offer to play with fake balance to try things out.

Don't you think the majority of people will try the method for free, see that it doesn't work, then fuck off?

That's not important, for some people this method you show will work for a while, for other it will not work on first try, if they try that with a demo account some of them would see it working and deposit real money then. It's not a problem at all, you shouldn't care if you lose a few people, you'll be making money anyway.

OP, if you don't mind my asking, roughly what's your conversion rate per, let's say, 1000 clicks? That is, of those who clicked the link in the description and found themselves on your "landing page", how many then proceed to make actual deposits?

My click-to-registration ratio is about 30-35%, of the people who registered about 60% made a deposit, so that'd be about 20% click-to-deposit ratio.

 

[CaesarKOF]

hi @nouveauriche
are you french ?

 

[ElitePower]

I am amazed that you keep answering questions OP.
I am staring the method somewhere the next days, video is almost ready. It only took me 1 try to get the correct sequence and I even got 10$ profit. After this I am sure I will think of other similar methods, thanks a lot !