Fucking SMM Panels

[MMblackhat]

I think most people don't understand that, all panels are resellers.

They are not the ones responsible for processing your order.

When you have issue, you submit a ticket to the panel, and the panel will do the same with their supplier.

Sometimes the supplier dint respond back, so the panel have no idea what they're suppose to do or tell you.

I think the problem with this industry is, the amount of suppliers is too small.

Supplier made tons of money. Since they dominate this industry so much, because they got no competitor.
Even the quality of the services suck, they don't care about it.
Cause panel and end user have no other choice to keep using them, even each of the account/views/ip already been used by various of different reseller panels and thousand of different users.

This issue will not occur if the number of suppliers for each service is large.

Example:
YouTube Views = 50-100 different suppliers
Instagram Followers = 50-100 different suppliers

Bro, you don't understand.

I see you are a reseller - looking at your price list I see SUPERFAST INSTANT SUPERINSTANT FAST SUPERFAST.

I can guarantee you, that these services are not delivered either INSTANT or SUPERFAST.
It does not matter, that your provider does not deliver them fast enough and does not answer tickets.

You are the one selling the service to the retailers, so you are the one that is responsible for the quality of the product. You also are the one responsible for making sure, that the marketing matches the delivered product.

So if you say, that the likes are INSTANT and Targeted USA, then it is you, who is responsible for the likes to be instant and from usa profiles.
If you fail to make sure that the likes are delivered INSTANTly and from US profiles, then you are commiting fraud.

Does this seem fair?

 

[ramirezdanielle965]

great thread OP

 

[ccmv]

The setup will work only if both sides are ready. If we pull back then even the provider will allow new registrations. Its really not that hard to find the provider + form a coalition + boycott all scamming panels and setup a simple universal panel as a mediator. Everyone goes home happy.

Why it's is not possible to gather retailers and form a coalition to setup a panel? That would be great idea and I think there will be much support for that!

 

[MisterF]

yeah, this is exactly how I feel about it.. should we report all? I'd rather keep quiet about this.. really don't wanna get myself banned or warned again.
I've shared my part as a victim.. hope it helps at least.

Keeping quiet does nobody any good. Staff can't take action if we are not made aware of issues.
This is why we have the report button. Report it, add a comment advising us of the issue and a staff member will action the report.

 

[hyocca]

Why it's is not possible to gather retailers and form a coalition to setup a panel? That would be great idea and I think there will be much support for that!

please do, i'm all in for this

 

[PinguSpy]

Why it's is not possible to gather retailers and form a coalition to setup a panel? That would be great idea and I think there will be much support for that!

Please give me more details about this idea.

I always wanted to create this type of website for so long.

But, I have no idea where I can generate the profit from.

 

[kimblancoz]

nice thread from OP. always having a tough time looking for a reliable service recently. Everything is a problem right now. I hope all retailers unite for something to benefit all of us.

 

[Charly21]

Smmlite, after 6 days, the SUPER INSTANT service is still as 'processing'
I contacted their support 5 days ago and still no answer

Proof:

 

[kimblancoz]

Smmlite, after 6 days, the SUPER INSTANT service is still as 'processing'
I contacted their support 5 days ago and still no answer

Proof:
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Poor support

 

[John242]

Smmlite, after 6 days, the SUPER INSTANT service is still as 'processing'
I contacted their support 5 days ago and still no answer

Proof:
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Yep this panel is the absolute worst with their descriptions, and support. I have 6 open pending tickets dating back to February - see screenshot. Absolutely unacceptable.

As you can see some of these are long before there were any problems with IG services.

They no longer get any of my business.

Why it's is not possible to gather retailers and form a coalition to setup a panel? That would be great idea and I think there will be much support for that!

Do you mean gather "providers" to form a coalition to setup a panel? Not retailers. Retailers are just re-selling from the re-seller, not the source.

Source >> Re-seller >> Retailer >> Customer/Client

Unless I am missing something here I am not sure what you mean, please clarify.

 

[Charly21]

Yep this panel is the absolute worst with their descriptions, and support. I have 6 open pending tickets dating back to February - see screenshot. Absolutely unacceptable.

As you can see some of these are long before there were any problems with IG services.

They no longer get any of my business.


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Do you have a good panel now? I work with JAP but I just want to be able to get a new reseller and leave them

 

[Charly21]

We should, as smm final resellers, make a list of all the smm panels that we need to avoid, if nobody buy on them they will close.

First on the list:
- SmmLite
- Peakerr

 

[tadeuonbrand]

Dont use panels. They are real targets of IG

 

[blackwalker]

Bro, you don't understand.

I see you are a reseller - looking at your price list I see SUPERFAST INSTANT SUPERINSTANT FAST SUPERFAST.

I can guarantee you, that these services are not delivered either INSTANT or SUPERFAST.
It does not matter, that your provider does not deliver them fast enough and does not answer tickets.

You are the one selling the service to the retailers, so you are the one that is responsible for the quality of the product. You also are the one responsible for making sure, that the marketing matches the delivered product.

So if you say, that the likes are INSTANT and Targeted USA, then it is you, who is responsible for the likes to be instant and from usa profiles.
If you fail to make sure that the likes are delivered INSTANTly and from US profiles, then you are commiting fraud.

Does this seem fair?

If you dont think it is that fast then compensate. Do a test order of 100 or so units and time them and just use the service. The superfast is all for marketing. If you dont like its dont use smm panels. There are simpler things than deceiving your client by giving them 1000 fake followers

 

[unknownsmmers]

Here's what I've realized with SMM panels.
I've made 6 figures or more in the past year - fresh out of newbie-ville

If they're not a BHW trusted user.
It's a shady business, and they base their help on your personality.
(Sad as it sounds)

If you're a headache to them, they'll drop your business. They don't sell shoes through FedX, they sell high risk digital products. Nd take losses by the day from refunded/claimed issues

It's not about your order specifically, it's about your personality.

Buy from BHW users and they got you covered under S.Lists

If you google or Bing SMM panel , 75% are scams with terrible C.S

I have no aff with J*P
THEY ARE BANNED (apparently)
And I never plan to have aff with them

To get help always say
" please, thank you , this is urgent, this is a vip client of mine, etc "

Treat panels like a human and they'll treat you like a human

I'm a brand new user and switched up from a**os** who charges a little more for higher class service back in the day

After becoming a master user with **P, if I have an urgent issue they cancel / refund

Since it's instagram , I find it works best if you wait 3-7 days to complain

Then there's an auto approved refund eligible
(Again, we don't sell shoes through the mail, our key is communication and to let customers know digital products are different. 15% of users worry about speed, 85% of users worry about delivery or refund guarantee. I suggest we all communicate it better)

Edit; also expect less/more issues if you're not an API customer

 

[tadeuonbrand]

It is a very good idea build a FUCKING PANEL BUSINESS and invest on ads !
Very good!!! Now suffer the fucking BLOCK WAVE PATTERN CAUSED by this shit !

Keep the good job leaking bots informations to Mark Zuck team !

 

[unknownsmmers]

It is a very good idea build a FUCKING PANEL BUSINESS and invest on ads !
Very good!!! Now suffer the fucking BLOCK WAVE PATTERN CAUSED by this shit !

Keep the good job leaking bots informations to Mark Zuck team !

From the info I seen from.zucks team , this forum is garbage knowledge

The best most secret users who fuck up from BHW will impact the most loud ignorant users next by A.i

They have code data we don't

 

[tadeuonbrand]

From the info I seen from.zucks team , this forum is garbage knowledge

The best most secret users who fuck up from BHW will impact the most loud ignorant users next by A.i

They have code data we don't

It is not so advanced what they are doing !
I only hope panels dont discover the back-door to make automation work again.

It will fuck our lives again

 

[unknownsmmers]

It is not so advanced what they are doing !
I only hope panels dont discover the back-door to make automation work again.

It will fuck our lives again

Listen bro I recognize you on the forum.and I wanna fix your worries.
2021 we'll be okay

Zucky is on our side

Small panels sell 50,000,000+ engagements monthly today

Big panels sell 5,000,000,000,000+ engagements monthly

I hope you honestly, don't think, zucky can handle getting rid of us

*Cough*cough* their a publicly traded company with investors + new investors to impress *smokers cough * smokers cough*

Edit: they want us. But. They also want to stop foreign political interence . We'll be aight, don't act foreign. Act USA agency

 

[MarkWilson]

I think that the main issue (poor service descriptions, support etc) is given by the fact that 99% panel owners are from 3rd world countries. these dudes jumped into such big business with no knowledge, they are making a living out of it. They don't fucking care if the title is wrong. They don't fucking care if likes come after 2h or 10h. If you buy from panels, you are probably buying from unprofessional people (statistically).
+ These big panels have few main customers, they just don't care about your 10$ spent.

I don't have anything against Indian/Bangladesh/paki, I know many good people from there. BUT, if you buy from these people, be aware that you are not buying from Amazon.

You want to buy from suppliers? Even worse experience, you are lucky if you get an answer. Or, you sell 100k$ per month and you will have support.