my mobile app journey [starting from rock bottom]

[hardik9099]

IOS apps are whitehat.

For Google play I have one app which is greyhat.
"I am still figuring out this prior violation with Google and I am not comfortable working into full whitehat as work of many days and nights can be wiped out in a second".

Lately I spend a lot of time into keywords researching than actual programming.
First step is to know what people are looking for.
Is there enough demand to go and build an app for it ?
"This is not website building, go buy a wordpress theme and be ready in few hours."
What is your competition ?
"If your niche is already saturated for example..
How old are your competitor's apps. etc..."

I hope I am being helpful with my answers.

For everyone that is going to ask questions in the future.
I will not be answering something I already did.

Please show respect for all participants and read everything before posting.
Thank you

Til next time.

the issue of prior violation in google play store you are facing is I think because of the payment method. do not buy the accounts from sellers. they use same payment method to purchase all the account they sell and it is for Google to detect it. so if any one play account from that sold accounts gets banned all others will infect. this is my personal experience, working on android from last 2 years. hope will help you on your journey.

in all the reply on this thread, you not mentioned the app promotion part. do you just publish app and wait for organic installs or you run any ads to get installs. both in iOS and Android?

all the best !

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

the issue of prior violation in google play store you are facing is I think because of the payment method. do not buy the accounts from sellers. they use same payment method to purchase all the account they sell and it is for Google to detect it. so if any one play account from that sold accounts gets banned all others will infect. this is my personal experience, working on android from last 2 years. hope will help you on your journey.

in all the reply on this thread, you not mentioned the app promotion part. do you just publish app and wait for organic installs or you run any ads to get installs. both in iOS and Android?

all the best !

For now all traffic is organic.
Google play accounts are made by me but still they get banned after couple of days,weeks..
If you got any ideas shoot a PM.
Maybe we can both help each other.

 

[desperado596]

I used to get all exited and bumped about revenue.
At the end of the day it is all just numbers.
The moment you think you have made it and get comfortable, that is when you get a slap in the face.

Current revenue for today :
754,62$

About 300$ from IOS rest is from one app at Google play.

There is still 6 hours for the day.
I will not surprised if it goes over the 1k area.

I stop myself from logging into my ad account so I stick to the plan of having 10 apps on each platform.
Revenue is really not that important as long as you have traffic.

I am still brain storming the Google play prior violation as most traffic is there.
Hopefully I get to it pretty soon.

Til next time.

Can you share how much download you have in order to earn that kind of money ?
i am thinking your monetization technique not ordinary. you must be use something special.

 

[rbrtstn]

What tools do you use to help gather information on what apps to build? I know you do keyword research - is there keyword data on app store or play store searches?

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

Can you share how much download you have in order to earn that kind of money ?
i am thinking your monetization technique not ordinary. you must be use something special.

You start earning those amount once you start having control over your monetisation.
Look for private advertisers or use CPA networks to promote offers that pay well.

To answer your question about downloads:

IOS brings about 800 daily downloads.
Play store about 2000 daily downloads.

So an average of 3000 daily downloads for now.

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

What tools do you use to help gather information on what apps to build? I know you do keyword research - is there keyword data on app store or play store searches?

I start with Google trends and go from there.

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

A little update about my IOS app.
The second app did not do so well and I barely get 100 downloads a day.

I am not pushing any ads on this app because it will just turn away those few users, maybe in the future the app will again some momentum but I doubt it.
It is a little bit discouraging but I am doing my best into creating a third app, I need to stay focused on my goal of the 10 apps.

Til next time.

 

[SultanSultan]

I am a newbie in Android development trying to further improve my skills and you are very motivating, I hope you continue to keep us updated. I wish you good luck for your further journey.

 

[JohnH4012]

about how long does it take fro you to create one app

 

[Busybrainiac]

Wow nice story of your life to tread on...great journey so far i must say things are turning into your favor, greatness awaits you inmate.

 

[hatterftw1]

So OP I take it you're not generating this revenue with just Admob. You mentioned to use "private advertisers or use CPA networks". So which networks do you use ?

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

As I am still testing Google Play banning bot.
I decided to focus solely on IOS and give 2-4 hours a week for G.play.
I believe that my last ban was random as I submitted the same app with same source and everything.
Still account live after 2 weeks so instead of burning my head over some random banning system, I am going to put my mind into something scalable.

I will get back to this thread once the third app is ready.

Til next time.

 

[altstacks]

I just finished v1 of my app. I built it using react native and I'm currently trying to get apple to approve it. They are asking for things like a EULA and ways to flag user generated content (ugc).

I'll definitely get my app approved. I'm currently brainstorming my next idea.

 

[Br Stoner]

Hello everyone,

I guess it is about time to make a thread in the journey section.
Every time I visit the forum I mostly check this section and I always want to create one.
Today is the day.

The main reason for this journey is motivation.

A little introduction about myself:
I am 28 years old who discovered the mobile industry by coincidence back in 2013.
I just finished school back then with a computer science degree and was having fun making apps in my spare time.

After about a year in 2014 one of my apps went viral and income started piling in.
Two years later I had a company with well established apps and was making mobile apps for Android full time.
My last day of income was 3662€.

I never forget that day.
Everything ended with one mail:

"this is a notification that your google play publisher account has been terminated"

I spent the next two years in depression and suicidal state.
After some therapy and world traveling I feel much better now.

Now about this journey:

I believe that anything can be achievable as long as you set goals.
Achievable goals.

My goal for this thread if to have 10 apps by the end of this year.
On both IOS and Android.

I will be sharing my knowledge and experience along the way.
If you have any questions.
Leave them below.

Please note that there will not be any daily updates but I will do my best.

Wish me luck.
Much love to you all

Hello man, I'm on the same state that you have been ehhehehe

But I'm trying harder but facing a lot of problems with Instagram, but I wan to learn about coding apps or games for android and IOS, I already learn the basic of a few program languages, but I have to learn much more to make it.
Where do you learn, have some advice for me to start learning? (Self-learning)

 

[themrhassan12]

goodluck

 

[Oshizu]

For now all traffic is organic.
Google play accounts are made by me but still they get banned after couple of days,weeks..
If you got any ideas shoot a PM.
Maybe we can both help each other.

How do you upload your apps on the google playstore? You can PM me if you need any help.

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

A little update:

5 apps on IOS.
Still 1 app on Google play.

I am half way through in the IOS journey.
With Google I am not worried as scaling won't be a problem.

Keep grinding.
Til next time.

 

[bfftalk]

A little update:

5 apps on IOS.
Still 1 app on Google play.

I am half way through in the IOS journey.
With Google I am not worried as scaling won't be a problem.

Keep grinding.
Til next time.

Can you share, which CPA network use for monetise your application in Google Play?

If possible, let us share which backend system use AWS or Firebase..

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

Can you share, which CPA network use for monetise your application in Google Play?

If possible, let us share which backend system use AWS or Firebase..

I do not monetise my apps anymore as I mentioned in my earlier posts.
To answer your question, the company is a private one that we had contact back in 2014 when I started my journey in the mobile industry.
Pay attention to the emails you receive in your developer inbox once you have the traffic they will find you.

For the backend, I barely have about 5k daily users I do not need AWS or any powerful server.
Just a domain and basic hosting is enough.

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

Funny enough.
My g.play account just got suspended.

So for now 0 Apps on Google Play.

I have a theory that they link Admob accounts now..
Can anybody elaborate on this ?
Anybody using same admob after prior violation..

As much as I like to keep this thread a notebook for my journey.
I would appreciate it if we can discuss a help each other.

Thanks everyone!