I might have been scammed. Can I do this as a response?

BiffTannen1

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First and foremost thank you to anyone who decides to give some of their time to think about this and share their opinion. I appreciate it and I will be repping you.

Long story short, in the month of April I noticed a pro-athlete went on a popular sports podcast and at the end of the episode dropped his new website for his online store. It turned out they hadn't purchased the domain yet - so I bought it and then contacted his management and explained I didn't want to be a dick and take advantage of them and offered to sell it for $1500 to them. He said it was too much and instead offered me a swath of signed memorabilia. I said sure I'll do that then passed him on a bunch of e-commerce advice for the store. He then said you know what you're talking about and asked how much it would be to setup a shopify store for them. I said $2500 and he said he'd get back to me after he spoke to the athlete.

A week passed and he was getting incredible traffic from the sports podcast and I couldn't stand it being wasted so I went ahead and built a store in 2 days and then let him know its there and can be put online any time. He contacted me the next day out of the blue and said the athlete wants to use my site and asked if I could have it live that day in time for another podcast. I said sure and got it done. That day he messaged and said the pro athlete is very grateful and said he'd be paying me on top of sending signed memorabilia.

The next few days kept me busy trying to manage the store as I never have before but I got it done. It included updating more products for them etc.

A month have passed now and I finally asked about the 2500. A little over a week ago he got back to me and said he had talked to the pro-athlete and he agreed on the $2500 and said he was grateful and now its just a case of finding how to get it to me. I sent him Western Union details and PayPal information. I asked a few days later if there's in any update and he said "will fill you in shortly". I have not heard from him in a week. He is not responding to any of my Twitter DM's and finally after a week of silence on friday I DM'd him and said I'd frozen sales until I'm paid. I left the site online but just disabled sales for now but that doesn't help me as they've already made ~45K and sales have slowed down to just a few a day.

My question is - what can I do here? I still own the domain. I created the shopify but I transferred it over to him and set his email as admin account leaving me a staff account. I do host the main website externally though and just use the Shopify Buy Button.

**Can I in theory add my own product on the website since he's not responding and have it linked to my personal shopify and get paid that way since in theory I own the website? His manager is the type of guy who likely wouldn't even know its on the website and I could probably get away with putting it up there for 3 or 4 days and making back what I was supposed to be paid. Also all conversations have been through Twitter DM's so its all been logged talking with the managers twitter account. Also the website is still in all of the athletes social media bios. I just don't think the manager knows how websites work.

Many thanks to anyone who could advice. (I am located in Canada and they are in the United States)
 
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the amount of cash you have lost is unreal 45k in sales is huge especially when you set it all up for only 2500.

you might have to be crawl to be kind .

contact the manager give him x amount of days to receve full cash or domain will be sold fullstop.

if you have not receved any money , i am sure by law anythink run under that domain you can claim ....

anythink sold under that domain in theory is yours .

i am sure you can redirect all traffic to a shop with same products legally

i would warn them of this if money not paid within x days

i would also write a note for him to pass on to his client of the problam your facing from his manager .

KEEP EVERTHINK IN A FILE ENCASE YOU GOTO COURT ...

you might need legal advice because the earnings under your name/domain make you tax responsible be careful get proper advice.

hope you all the best, sorry what happen (( you honestly nearly hit gold ))
 
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the amount of cash you have lost is unreal 45k in sales is huge especially when you set it all up for only 2500.

you might have to be crawl to be kind .

contact the manager give him x amount of days to receve full cash or domain will be sold fullstop.

Red Arrow - thank you very much for your reply! You seem to know your stuff. And I assume you meant be cruel to be kind.

That is a good idea - I am contemplating that. In theory, do you think legal wise I could add my own shirt onto the website temporarily and link the buy button to my shopify while disabling the merchandise they sell?

So basically I'd be adding my own shirt, linking it to my shopify then fulfilling those orders myself. Since I own the domain, and I own the main page and hosting. The rest just uses the Shopify Buy Button.
 
Imagine how is to try to scam someone and got scammed by guys who literally who doesnt even know what is a "hosting".
 
Watch out.

Turn over the site, your greedy.

Its their property.

I have embarrassing experience here, I will PM you deets.

You need to sue them here for your $2500

I'm sorry.
 
Watch out.

Turn over the site, your greedy.

Its their property.

I have embarrassing experience here, I will PM you deets.

You need to sue them here for your $2500

I'm sorry.

OK - I've pm'd you. And how would it be their property exactly? The guy has been super thankful the entire time while working with him too. It's just this last week he's gone quiet after out of nowhere telling me 2500 is agreeable and he's going to get the money out to me.
 
also if you can prove the value of income from your domain , i am 100% sure a judge will reward you more then 2500.
 
Red Arrow - thank you very much for your reply! You seem to know your stuff. And I assume you meant be cruel to be kind.

That is a good idea - I am contemplating that. In theory, do you think legal wise I could add my own shirt onto the website temporarily and link the buy button to my shopify while disabling the merchandise they sell?

So basically I'd be adding my own shirt, linking it to my shopify then fulfilling those orders myself. Since I own the domain, and I own the main page and hosting. The rest just uses the Shopify Buy Button.
if you warn them first asking for your cash in x amount days then your be ok ..
but i suggest legal advise.

sorry i am not a solicitor and you need there legal advise

I AM ADVISING YOU TO WARN A PERSON BEFORE TAKING ACTION .

if you need help you can ask a adminstrator for personal advise on here they might be able to advise you..

@Sherb or other might be able to help.
 
Before getting the website live I would have just asked for a prepayment from them.

I don't think going to court or to a judge will be the best thing to do..

Currently the best thing to do in my honest opinion is to sneak in some of your products and make some quick cash out of that free traffic.
 
Thanks a lot to all of you. I've decided to just re-enable sales after being scared by some of the posts. It's only been disabled for a day and as it stands they only get like 1 sale a day which is of $20.

I am just going to play the waiting game after getting a little scared from some of the posts. That might be my best chance. Let them get more used to the domain then give the warning of selling if not paid in like a month from now.
 
You are owed $2500 and some shitty memorabilia
Don't cause them damages. You will repay it with penalties and interest.
Not a Lawyer, Not Your Lawyer, You Should Seek a Lawyer.
This Isn't Legal Advice.
You Need to Sue Them For Your Money.
Bad Client, Take the L move on.
 
You are owed $2500 and some shitty memorabilia
Don't cause them damages. You will repay it with penalties and interest.
Not a Lawyer, Not Your Lawyer, You Should Seek a Lawyer.
This Isn't Legal Advice.
You Need to Sue Them For Your Money.
Bad Client, Take the L move on.

Good call. Ill just wait a month - see what happens. They want to add more stuff in the coming weeks so when they ask to add that - that will be my opportunity to ask for payment.
 
Thanks a lot to all of you. I've decided to just re-enable sales after being scared by some of the posts. It's only been disabled for a day and as it stands they only get like 1 sale a day which is of $20.

I am just going to play the waiting game after getting a little scared from some of the posts. That might be my best chance. Let them get more used to the domain then give the warning of selling if not paid in like a month from now.
dont do nothing silly , we dont wish harm on you ... (( good move))
 
dont do nothing silly , we dont wish harm on you ... (( good move))
Thanks a lot guys I appreciate this so much. It helps a lot to get other peoples opinions. They just did a instagram live 2 days ago where the athlete said they'd be adding more gear soon so I know they will approach me to do that for them soon so that's the best opportunity to bring up pavement.
 
Thanks a lot guys I appreciate this so much. It helps a lot to get other peoples opinions. They just did a instagram live 2 days ago where the athlete said they'd be adding more gear soon so I know they will approach me to do that for them soon so that's the best opportunity to bring up pavement.
try to get some % deal from them , a lot of pll charge hundreds to look afther shops,websites ect ect ect

i no it all scattered but just wanna say you done really well .
 
Good call. When he asks me to update it I may ask if they want to negotiate on the price and if they are comfortable with the 2500 even though just a week ago he said its all been approved.
 
If you can get their site live in 2 days you can get your own up in less.
You need to take this a step further, if you land a professional athlete the doors, maybe just maybe, open.
Who knows. or you get scammed for $2500.
I would build a professional site for your self, invoice these dudes professionally including emailing the invoice to the players management team and agents.
Everyone needs to know your legit, with a legit due invoice, to get paid.
If you don't expect them to play games, imho.
This is your glow up.
Build your brand through the player but DEMAND that $2500 and I would make sure your invoice includes a monthly service fee flat with hourly above for content upgrades.
Get paid to update wordpress monthly and charge them hourly through invoice ($200 hour fuck it you pick it ) for their new apparel

make sure everyone knows you make this site on your own site and this site (if they allow it on the footer)

Treat this real and grow brother, PS I don't know the time table but in my industry some clients don't pay for 30-45 (or longer smh) days. Its not even uncommon and kinda "Expected" sadly.
 
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