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I wasn't sure on the title of this post.

With a plethora of threads on this forum and thousands and thousands of posts all related to making money, it really is a big headache to try and understand all the posts and whats going on and even where to start.

As new people who just start out and eventually find themselves making there way across the internet and stumbling across this website, I truly wonder what there first reaction is after signing up, well my first experience was not a good one. I was so confused with the amount of posts and even though there are a ton of categories that outline the different areas, its still one big jungle.

The Newbie Guide located all the way down the bottom is certainly a wealth of information to start with, so thank you to the original posters for guiding us, but once you venture away from the newbie section then dive into the heart of the forum this is where it starts to get crazy.

So every now and again I come back to the forum and see whats new, apart from the thousands of new posts and not knowing where to start I head off to the making money section, more threads and how people have made money and what you need to do to succeed.

I do wonder though if there is a thread on here that literally has people replying showing they made money from something.

With the billions of people in the world, the millions of people using computers and the thousands of new people getting into websites, cutting that down to the people that heard you can make money online to the few hundred that try and tell you that you can make money online but you need to buy this product first then you can make money to the less than one hundred people few of many whom have made money but don't share there findings and I certainly don't blame you wanting to keep your own secrets because you don't want others catching on to making the money you're to the less than few that are willing to share.

Those few that are willing to share, where are you?

Why I came here to write this post?

Every time I visit the forum, thousands of new posts have been added ontop of the ton of new threads, it really does get exciting to see what is new, has someone created the next big thing or has someone shared a money thought that has everyone buzzing with excitement.

I do wonder though for those whom have already created a niche and you've the people behind you, but somewhere along the line the product failed or started to decline, you still have the customers but the lack of the product or the direction the product was going on just dive bombed, what happens when you crash and burn and then you suddenly need help, you really need someone or a group of people to sit down with and say hey this is who I am this is what I have done but now its turned to crap and I am at a wits end and unsure where to go or what to do.

Not sure on where to go with this post or how to end it, thanks for reading if you got this far.

Jason
 
Hello Jason,

I definitely agree with you. We are in the same situation as you. The topics here(Making Money) are either not fully explained or a method is not as easy as it seems. And some people are just trying to sell e-books. Worst of all, some people are sending a post to a nine-year dead topics. This is causing a complete chaos. I wanted to tell my trouble.
 
Same thing happened to me a while ago when i was really making money on the internet then signed up to bhw and went so crazy and confused that i was discovering a plenty of methods that simply forgot what was done to make money earlier, and worse... I always take a look at the making money section to have some ideas, when i come out i always stay the same fucking retard feeling i was able to make money before, what the hell happened?!

And... Are they tricking on us? Are they making us confused so that we cant reach their methods? I keep seeing failed journeys, a few succeded but from time to time you see more and more people failing, what now?
 
Same thing happened to me a while ago when i was really making money on the internet then signed up to bhw and went so crazy and confused that i was discovering a plenty of methods that simply forgot what was done to make money earlier, and worse... I always take a look at the making money section to have some ideas, when i come out i always stay the same fucking retard feeling i was able to make money before, what the hell happened?!

And... Are they tricking on us? Are they making us confused so that we cant reach their methods? I keep seeing failed journeys, a few succeded but from time to time you see more and more people failing, what now?

Everbody selling shovels in a gold rush. Just some of them really want to help. But the problem is sometimes in newbies. Newbies write old topics, "Sir, Does it work ?" and is raising the fossilized subjects again. They bring the fossilized topics back to the top. I'm still trying my luck. It's the best place to make money I've ever seen. If this forum doesn't work, it would be my dream to make money online.
 
Can't expect hand-holding all the way the bank.. life's tough, sometimes people will misinform you to protect their advantages, sometimes people won't provide comprehensive walkthroughs of every single aspect, sometimes someone will refer you to a very old post.

Bad mentality to have, complaining and glass half empty. Never mind that this forum provides hundreds of different opportunities where people go out of their way to help strangers regularly. Everything is too tough and it's always other peoples' fault for not making it easy enough.

Look at yourself first, take responsibility. If it's tough to find the diamond in the rough, great! It means that loads of other noobs will also find it tough and most will bail because they can't take it - More sugar for you if you push through the pain barrier and use some creativity.

Habitual complaining is the best indicator of nature born losers (no offence).
 
I think the main thing to keep in mind here is that people won't share you the hottest method with the latest angle. If it we're so simple then everybody would make tons of money and then everybody would stop making money because that's communism and history shows that it's not a reliable economic model :). Try to understand the core of a method and think outside of the box. Put your own twist on it :)
 
The high difficulty level for success actually works towards your benefit long-term. Grinding it out and failing constantly, picking yourself off your feet, and trying again ad nauseum ends up being a blessing in disguise. But no one wants to hear that. And tbh, it's actually annoying to hear because our natural instincts lean towards instant gratification. It certainly weeds out most of your potential competition though.

Yes, BHW can be very disorganized with which threads are worthwhile when most of them aren't. Tons of old methods that don't work anymore.

But I'm also not sure exactly what you are expecting from a discussion forum like this. Are you wanting a silver platter thread or something that tells you exactly what you should be doing right now? What happens when 10,000 other people see that same thread for the ultimate working method?
 
I wasn't sure on the title of this post.

With a plethora of threads on this forum and thousands and thousands of posts all related to making money, it really is a big headache to try and understand all the posts and whats going on and even where to start.

As new people who just start out and eventually find themselves making there way across the internet and stumbling across this website, I truly wonder what there first reaction is after signing up, well my first experience was not a good one. I was so confused with the amount of posts and even though there are a ton of categories that outline the different areas, its still one big jungle.

The Newbie Guide located all the way down the bottom is certainly a wealth of information to start with, so thank you to the original posters for guiding us, but once you venture away from the newbie section then dive into the heart of the forum this is where it starts to get crazy.

So every now and again I come back to the forum and see whats new, apart from the thousands of new posts and not knowing where to start I head off to the making money section, more threads and how people have made money and what you need to do to succeed.

I do wonder though if there is a thread on here that literally has people replying showing they made money from something.

With the billions of people in the world, the millions of people using computers and the thousands of new people getting into websites, cutting that down to the people that heard you can make money online to the few hundred that try and tell you that you can make money online but you need to buy this product first then you can make money to the less than one hundred people few of many whom have made money but don't share there findings and I certainly don't blame you wanting to keep your own secrets because you don't want others catching on to making the money you're to the less than few that are willing to share.

Those few that are willing to share, where are you?

Why I came here to write this post?

Every time I visit the forum, thousands of new posts have been added ontop of the ton of new threads, it really does get exciting to see what is new, has someone created the next big thing or has someone shared a money thought that has everyone buzzing with excitement.

I do wonder though for those whom have already created a niche and you've the people behind you, but somewhere along the line the product failed or started to decline, you still have the customers but the lack of the product or the direction the product was going on just dive bombed, what happens when you crash and burn and then you suddenly need help, you really need someone or a group of people to sit down with and say hey this is who I am this is what I have done but now its turned to crap and I am at a wits end and unsure where to go or what to do.

Not sure on where to go with this post or how to end it, thanks for reading if you got this far.

Jason
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Nobody will share their exact step by step MONEY MAKING method, unless they want something from you in return, you have to accept the cold harsh truth: Nothing without a bit of elbow grease and no free lunch.
 
Pick a method, focus on just that, and either succeed or fail. BHW often talks about putting a “twist” on methods. What you see straight up, probably won’t work right now. I’m sure it did in the past but the exact method likely doesnt work because...if it did it probably wouldn’t be posted. Look at these methods, learn from them and then do it YOUR way. Theres a lot of trial and error involved. As others have said, no one will spoon feed you an easy money making method because...well they’re using it to make money.
 
Can't expect hand-holding all the way the bank.. life's tough, sometimes people will misinform you to protect their advantages, sometimes people won't provide comprehensive walkthroughs of every single aspect, sometimes someone will refer you to a very old post.

Bad mentality to have, complaining and glass half empty. Never mind that this forum provides hundreds of different opportunities where people go out of their way to help strangers regularly. Everything is too tough and it's always other peoples' fault for not making it easy enough.

Look at yourself first, take responsibility. If it's tough to find the diamond in the rough, great! It means that loads of other noobs will also find it tough and most will bail because they can't take it - More sugar for you if you push through the pain barrier and use some creativity.

Habitual complaining is the best indicator of nature born losers (no offence).

I know. And you're absolutely right. But i just don't like people who mislead people. Silence better than lies. Many people have a bad life. They're trying to survive in extreme conditions. Liars, exposing them to more difficult conditions. You can definitely criticize me with respect.

I'm still here. I love this forum. :p
 
I know. And you're absolutely right. But i just don't like people who mislead people. Silence better than lies. Many people have a bad life. They're trying to survive in extreme conditions. Liars, exposing them to more difficult conditions. You can definitely criticize me with respect.

I'm still here. I love this forum. :p

Sure I understand people already have difficulties to deal with, but many people who are also in difficult situations choose not to let that be a source of excuses and become inspired by the prospect of succeeding in spite of their difficult circumstances.

If you want a concrete example, I read a post from @Billy Batts the other day about some of the complexities he has dealt with in his life, and in spite of that he pushed through the pain barrier and didn't expect the world to make the process easy for him.

That's the kind of lesson a lot of people need to learn - if you focus on what you don't have and what is difficult all the time and try to change the external world (as opposed to focusing on what you can do internally) then you will fail or at least not succeed in any kind of meaningful way.

If the information on BHW isn't as organised as you'd like, roll with it and spend the time taken to write a complaint about it on trying a bit harder to process the treasure trove of information that is here.

Most people don't fail because of their circumstances but because of their flawed mindset.
 
All I can say in a few short words (you can read my threads for longer stuff)

Expect nothing from nobody! Accept you will fail a lot in IM! Often lose money! That there are no easy/fast methods! Pretty much everything has been done already! ;)
 
I do appreciate all of your comments and with a grain of rice will certainly take onboard some of the advice some of you have given, much appreciated and thank you.
 
Create your own method.. TELL NO ONE.. Those are the folks making money here....!
 
You need to pick 1-2 methods and fully focus on them.
 
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