SMM $1,280 chargebacks - SCAMMER INFO (UPDATE)

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Some time ago I posted a thread with all the information I had about a scammer who bought over $1,000+ worth of Facebook Page Likes from my panel, and then a month later hit me with chargebacks on Paypal, resulting in Paypal giving him most of the money back AND permanently suspending my Paypal account - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/smm-1-280-chargebacks-scammer-info.1108689/

The info I gave out was probably what he uses for his scams, but I gave it out to help anyone else who might run into this guy. One other friend of mine who runs a panel told me he also dealt with this guy and had chargebacks, and one other person on my BHW thread told me he also had some messages with the scammer, but decided not to deal with him.

Well, today I contacted some of the pages this person bought likes for, and one of them talked to me and told me the website they bought the likes from, and this person's Paypal name and email. And this awesome person did a chargeback for that purchase! :)

Website: https://www.fastlykke.com

On the real though. Just don't buy from this site, and if this person buys from you, well, careful boys...
 
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How do you avoid stuff like this?

Gut feeling. And Google.

I Googled this guy and the info/emails I had on him before I ever sold to him, and nothing unusual came up.

From now on if you Google his fake info that he used with me on Skype and on my Panel, and now his real info too, you'll find these BHW threads that I made and you will be saved, thanks to yours truly :)
 
How do you avoid stuff like this?
Don't allow paypal and stripe payments to new users and without verification. i always keep paypal option closed for random users, only bhw members are allowed to get paypal enabled and other users need to send 5-6 manual invoice payments with our terms and conditions so they can't scam.
 
Don't allow paypal and stripe payments to new users and without verification. i always keep paypal option closed for random users, only bhw members are allowed to get paypal enabled and other users need to send 5-6 manual invoice payments with our terms and conditions so they can't scam.

That's a very good course of action. That's good.
 
Don't allow paypal and stripe payments to new users and without verification. i always keep paypal option closed for random users, only bhw members are allowed to get paypal enabled and other users need to send 5-6 manual invoice payments with our terms and conditions so they can't scam.
So this must be a common problem in the smm panel industry?
 
This really sucks. I have had to deal with chargebacks before... You need a better system for enabling PayPal for users to prevent issues like this...

Thanks for the update, I searched through my database to see if this person used me and luckily no.
 
So this must be a common problem in the smm panel industry?

Yes, it is.

Actually there is 1 solution that's rock solid. Accept only cryptos (Bitcoin, Litecoin, etc). Then you don't have to worry about chargebacks :) but you do have to consider the fact that over 95% of potential customers will be lost :(
 
This really sucks. I have had to deal with chargebacks before... You need a better system for enabling PayPal for users to prevent issues like this...

Thanks for the update, I searched through my database to see if this person used me and luckily no.

I almost never dealt with chargebacks in the 4+ years I've been selling social media services. Maybe a few times per year, and half of those misunderstandings that were resolved and chargebacks cancelled, and the other have legitimate grievances that I refunded. Only 2 times in my 4+ years did I have scammers hit me, and it was for small amounts you know.

This was the first time I had to deal with such large chargebacks, and the scammer talked to me on Skype and everything. The balls on this son of a bitch!
 
I almost never dealt with chargebacks in the 4+ years I've been selling social media services. Maybe a few times per year, and half of those misunderstandings that were resolved and chargebacks cancelled, and the other have legitimate grievances that I refunded. Only 2 times in my 4+ years did I have scammers hit me, and it was for small amounts you know.

This was the first time I had to deal with such large chargebacks, and the scammer talked to me on Skype and everything. The balls on this son of a bitch!
So what do you do now that the paypal account is shutdown?
 
I lost about $1,200 in 4 years...

Out of that $1,130 came from this one guy...

hah :p
consider yourself lucky :) i hope one day we will have a better platform than paypal, did you used escrowpayments ? i heard they are good for big payments.
 
consider yourself lucky :) i hope one day we will have a better platform than paypal, did you used escrowpayments ? i heard they are good for big payments.

No, I never used that site, though I've heard of it.

Frankly, up until 3 months ago I had ever ONLY used Paypal. All my money, all the payments, everything only through my 1 Paypal account. I did that ever since I started online about 5+ years ago.

Then they permanently suspended me. They didn't tell me the reason. They didn't allow me to appeal. They locked my money for 180 days.

Since then I created Payoneer, Perfectmoney, Webmoney, Bitcoin/Cryptos, Skrill, Neteller, and others. Still planning to make more. And so now I use multiple platforms to receive payments. Nothing can replace Paypal, but they had a monopoly over me at least, all my websites and everything was going only through Paypal. No more, now I push any other payment processor over Paypal, and I hope one day I'll be able to do my business and cut Paypal off completely, and then hate on them and shit all over them always and forever :)
 
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