Will the sellers be forced to stop using PayPal?

[Mr Positive]

Hey so all the details is there in the long link, but quick question once you read it answer will sellers here stop using PayPal or it makes no difference whatsoever?

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/04/08/paypal-fee-bitcoin-crypto/

 

[BuildMoreLinks]

well there is a huge amount of trust from the buyer side built on PayPal and it will always be preferred choice.

 

[Dung Nguyen]

I am tired of PayPal, but as long as people still use it to pay, Have no choice

 

[Gogol]

They will lose business if they do. I won't buy from any seller who does not take payment via PayPal. I am sure there are a lot of users who think the same.

 

[John4life2017]

Unfortunately, it's a nrcessnec evil!

 

[Lukmat]

They will lose business if they do. I won't buy from any seller who does not take payment via PayPal. I am sure there are a lot of users who think the same.

I will never use PayPal for sales again. Every time I wanted to use it, I was scammed by some buyer.
It's business, when you are selling hundreds of cheap products but if you have few hundreds or few thousands product, fuck PayPal and fuck such buyer. People who want to buy it, will use wire or stripe.
I don't need such customer, who will generate me debt in PayPal day before chargeback deadline.

I don't trust any buyer who is pushing PayPal no matter what, if he have many other payment methods in his country, including debit card.

 

[BbHhWwVM]

Dude, PP is dealing with SMM (illegal stuff) as they must, not because someone want's to kill this transactions. About disputes, you either go for F&F or you don't sell what you can't backup.
They are not retarded, and you also won't find trust in crypto as you can in PP as a buyer.
Just imagine that increase of scams if everything was operating on crypto.
You could add fake transactions, etc. That story with PP....becoming hilarious.

 

[AngelSeo]

I will never use PayPal for sales again. Every time I wanted to use it, I was scammed by some buyer.
It's business, when you are selling hundreds of cheap products but if you have few hundreds or few thousands product, fuck PayPal and fuck such buyer. People who want to buy it, will use wire or stripe.
I don't need such customer, who will generate me debt in PayPal day before chargeback deadline.

I don't trust any buyer who is pushing PayPal no matter what, if he have many other payment methods in his country, including debit card.

As a buyer I always look for PayPal as well. Of course if is something costing $1k or above and is serious business I can wire, but for day to day purchases, especially in our business? PayPal all the way.

 

[Lukmat]

As a buyer I always look for PayPal as well. Of course if is something costing $1k or above and is serious business I can wire, but for day to day purchases, especially in our business? PayPal all the way.

1,5 year ago, I had once refund request for $700, buyer succed telling PayPal not truth about not delivered item, my documents, conversations, even it was invoice accepted manualy by buyer, nothing helped.
Guess what, my buyers 1,5 year ago had Telegram chat each other to support each other. This guy was contacting my buyers and selling them method for $100, to get $700 back.
Next 3 days I had fraudulent refunds for 5k$

Of course I not paid this, PayPal blocked my account and for that time, debt collecting agency is asking about it constantly and I am inviting PayPal to court.
In whole European Union, PayPal cannot mediate between buyer <> seller and grant refund to anyone, unless it was chargeback. Only court can grant refund.
So if PayPal wants cash from me, let's see in the court, I will smash them in 5 minutes.

 

[AngelSeo]

1,5 year ago, I had once refund request for $700, buyer succed telling PayPal not truth about not delivered item, my documents, conversations, even it was invoice accepted manualy by buyer, nothing helped.
Guess what, my buyers 1,5 year ago had Telegram chat each other to support each other. This guy was contacting my buyers and selling them method for $100, to get $700 back.
Next 3 days I had fraudulent refunds for 5k$

Of course I not paid this, PayPal blocked my account and for that time, debt collecting agency is asking about it constantly and I am inviting PayPal to court.
In whole European Union, PayPal cannot mediate between buyer <> seller and grant refund to anyone, unless it was chargeback. Only court can grant refund.
So if PayPal wants cash from me, let's see in the court, I will smash them in 5 minutes.

..... your buyers had Telegram channel to support each other? What is this? Buyers anonymous? Sorry but people happy with your services wont open dispute, even if they can get some money back. Do not tell me that you sold legit stuff and get refund request from all your clients?

 

[Lukmat]

..... your buyers had Telegram channel to support each other? What is this? Buyers anonymous? Sorry but people happy with your services wont open dispute, even if they can get some money back. Do not tell me that you sold legit stuff and get refund request from all your clients?

I had a lot more of clients, who not asked for refund
but this stuff was blackhat, sorry but any blackhat community is full of scums who will use every opportunity for fraudulent refund.

Try to make some more expensive BST and accept PayPal here. I have many feedbacks from other Jr.VIPs who are selling expensive stuff with PayPal.

Telegram was just community created by me for buyers

 

[AngelSeo]

I had a lot more of clients, who not asked for refund
but this stuff was blackhat, sorry but any blackhat community is full of scums who will use every opportunity for fraudulent refund.

Try to make some more expensive BST and accept PayPal here. I have many feedbacks from other Jr.VIPs who are selling expensive stuff with PayPal.

Telegram was just community created by me for buyers

Well yeah. If you are selling Black hat shits.. shits happen. Thats why the profit margin should be at least1000% To cover the risk.

 

[Gogol]

I will never use PayPal for sales again. Every time I wanted to use it, I was scammed by some buyer.
It's business, when you are selling hundreds of cheap products but if you have few hundreds or few thousands product, fuck PayPal and fuck such buyer. People who want to buy it, will use wire or stripe.
I don't need such customer, who will generate me debt in PayPal day before chargeback deadline.

I don't trust any buyer who is pushing PayPal no matter what, if he have many other payment methods in his country, including debit card.

I can feel for you. I have never cheated anyone in my life, but yeah... due to paypal's pro buyer policy, it would be easy to charge back most of the time.

Btw, stripe and wire transfer.. both are feasible for me as well... But not crypto... Sorry. Once you have paid the money, you can't do anything if the seller cheats you.

 

[Lukmat]

I can feel for you. I have never cheated anyone in my life, but yeah... due to paypal's pro buyer policy, it would be easy to charge back most of the time.

Btw, stripe and wire transfer.. both are feasible for me as well... But never crypto... Sorry. Once you paid the money, you can't do anything if the seller cheats you.

I have crypto, some of buyers prefers it more than wire but most of transactions I am getting via wire. They can pay me also via Transferwise using debit/credit card.
It's still possible to make a refund but cheater just cannot click twice and get money, he need to contact bank and fill the form with signature.

Soon Stripe is coming to my country, so I will support it everywhere

 

[Alexpaberla]

The short answer is NO

Why ?
Buyers: Prefer paypal because they can chargeback their money

Sellers: Prefer cryptocurrency because there is no way for chargeback

For me i use cryptocurrency everytime when i buy something online from trusted sellers, but sometime when i dont know if the seller is a good guy i prefer paypal, i can take my money back when something go wrong, with crypto my money could be lost forever, too many scammers over the world ...

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

I have crypto, some of buyers prefers it more than wire but most of transactions I am getting via wire. They can pay me also via Transferwise using debit/credit card.
It's still possible to make a refund but cheater just cannot click twice and get money, he need to contact bank and fill the form with signature.

Soon Stripe is coming to my country, so I will support it everywhere

Thanks for that post. I was under the impression that Transferwise only supports Transferwise-to-Transferwise payments and Bank Transfers. Now I looked into it some and indeed, they also support Credit/Debit card payments.

Pretty cool, thanks