To everyone working AC
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redtide1969
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lol that would be great. :biggthump
I was just thinking... I will write and submit article about how it is stupid to not allow BHW people to do their jobI think that that would be such a nice thing
I see us like connection to countries of the 3rd world
What's funny is that they have accepted content about BHers in the past. I know one of them submitted a poem about BH'ers and got it accepted.
I guess we are our own little niche
Millygirl
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Summary: It all goes back to money (and in their minds, the idea of ethical writing).
Longer explanation:
When AC came out, the upfront payments were good. There was even a bit of money for referrals. Not to mention Google loved AC (high ranking articles). AC was the place to write if a person was either just starting out as a freelance writer or just couldn't cut it as a freelance writer.
Writers came. They submitted articles and promoted AC like mad.
AC welcomed everyone and anyone who wanted to "Blog for money". They even payed for poorly written crap.
When AC became popular, they screwed over some writers. Other writers weren't happy with AC (or they figured out how much of a scam AC really was and created their own blogs/sites to get full Google Adsense/Ad profit).
Those that stayed (AC "disciples") continued to write and promote their articles.
Today, the upfront payments are lower. The top writers claim they still getting high payments but I have yet to see proof of this.
The writers are angry with us because more writers = less topics to write on + less money in their pockets.
They see us as "unethical" because some of us use rewriters or we rewrite articles that were written by someone else. This mean claiming other people work as our own. They see blackhatters as "stupid, unprofessional" writers who can't dish out articles good enough to make it into the big league.
Many of the writers on AC claim they are published writers (newspaper, magazines, top websites, etc.). I believe I seen one person who claimed to have published a book.
Yet they all whore themselves out. AC does give out little compare to what real freelance writers can make. Some freelance writers charge $1 per word which would mean AC would have to dish out around $400 per article.Summary: It all goes back to money (and in their minds, the idea of ethical writing).
Longer explanation:
When AC came out, the upfront payments were good. There was even a bit of money for referrals. Not to mention Google loved AC (high ranking articles). AC was the place to write if a person was either just starting out as a freelance writer or just couldn't cut it as a freelance writer.
Writers came. They submitted articles and promoted AC like mad.
AC welcomed everyone and anyone who wanted to "Blog for money". They even payed for poorly written crap.
When AC became popular, they screwed over some writers. Other writers weren't happy with AC (or they figured out how much of a scam AC really was and created their own blogs/sites to get full Google Adsense/Ad profit).
Those that stayed (AC "disciples") continued to write and promote their articles.
Today, the upfront payments are lower. The top writers claim they still getting high payments but I have yet to see proof of this.
The writers are angry with us because more writers = less topics to write on + less money in their pockets.
They see us as "unethical" because some of us use rewriters or we rewrite articles that were written by someone else. This mean claiming other people work as our own. They see blackhatters as "stupid, unprofessional" writers who can't dish out articles good enough to make it into the big league.
Many of the writers on AC claim they are published writers (newspaper, magazines, top websites, etc.). I believe I seen one person who claimed to have published a book.
I laugh very hard at this too. If your writing was so awesome and you were so professional that you write your own books, you would go and let AC rape you for $4-$5 for a good article
Yeah sure..........buddy. You'd know what your writing was worth and you would never whore out your stuff to AC for such a low return. I can tell you from personally never outsourcing and being a team with my Fiance in the past with AC I dud make decent enough money to pay my mortgage and all my bills. But we worked are buts off like a real job each putting in 8-10 hours a day to not get payed that much really. It was just our only option and we love being able to work our chosen hours together at home. We are an swesome team and as lovers would still make great business partners which is rare.If your a "professional" writer with the caliber of writing skills to have good books published you'd never put in 40-60 hours a week for AC to get paid what I was. I just enjoyed working from home so I considered it worth it. TO really captialize off of AC and feel good about time spent to your return on investment you almost have to outsource and run multiple accounts. So I laugh at any AC' member who spits off about being "professional" & "publishing books" then writing for such low amount of money. It's almost a slap in the face to your standard citizen what they [ay sometimes. How do you think a professional writer would feel? Exactly.... it wouldn't happen
srb888
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I am writing this on a serious note.
You should read one of their threads about AC rejecting their articles and paying a grand fees of less than $2. While telling their AC 'woes', these moms are not stopping from bitching each other! Some of them have got continuous rejections from their 'masters'. Still they are hitting at each other instead of finding ways of getting their work accepted.
If these friends-one-day-enemies-the-next are misbehaving and bitching on their so-called 'ethical' platform, it is no wonder they will find 'outsider-scapegoats', read BH(?) writers, to cover up for their own shortcomings. I haven't seen such colorful language used by these moms in my whole life! Now that their own masters are kicking them hard below their belts and exposing their own highly-thought-of writing skills, it's a fit case of Karma working at its very best!
So my advice to them is to get on with the real work which is giving the best to their masters, and let others earn too. AC knows that there are outsiders writing for it, and it also wants their good service. But these 'moms' were trying very hard to manipulate AC -- when would they realize that AC is their master and not the other way around as they think(?) -- in stopping it from gaining its bigger income. Now these nosy moms are finding that the fire they have started foolishly is burning their own homes.
They were absolutely jealous and over-protective. But when it comes to be friends among themselves, they are un-united, over-bitchy, and still are foolishly displaying the self-proclaimed better-writer-than-thou shameless bitchy attitude.
They are the next in line for the high-jump! They are being exposed for their own shortcomings now by their own masters. That's absolutely a fitting return blow for most of them.
AC IS hitting back for their foolishness. It is making them understand that they are not 'Gods' too. Imagine these people getting less than 2~3 $$$ for their 'top-quality' 'white-hat(?)' writing jobs and getting handful of rejections every day! Absolutely suits them.
They must learn to co-exist and learn to live with globalization AND give their very best to stay in competition, else be wiped out.
You should read one of their threads about AC rejecting their articles and paying a grand fees of less than $2.
While telling their AC 'woes', these moms are not stopping from bitching each other! Some of them have got continuous rejections from their 'masters'. Still they are hitting at each other instead of finding ways of getting their work accepted. If these friends-one-day-enemies-the-next are misbehaving and bitching on their so-called 'ethical' platform, it is no wonder they will find 'outsider-scapegoats', read BH(?) writers, to cover up for their own shortcomings. I haven't seen such colorful language used by these moms in my whole life!
Now that their own masters are kicking them hard below their belts and exposing their own highly-thought-of writing skills, it's a fit case of Karma working at its very best! So my advice to them is to get on with the real work which is giving the best to their masters, and let others earn too. AC knows that there are outsiders writing for it, and it also wants their good service. But these 'moms' were trying very hard to manipulate AC -- when would they realize that AC is their master and not the other way around as they think(?) -- in stopping it from gaining its bigger income. Now these nosy moms are finding that the fire they have started foolishly is burning their own homes.
They were absolutely jealous and over-protective. But when it comes to be friends among themselves, they are un-united, over-bitchy, and still are foolishly displaying the self-proclaimed better-writer-than-thou shameless bitchy attitude.
They are the next in line for the high-jump! They are being exposed for their own shortcomings now by their own masters. That's absolutely a fitting return blow for most of them.
AC IS hitting back for their foolishness. It is making them understand that they are not 'Gods' too. Imagine these people getting less than 2~3 $$$ for their 'top-quality' 'white-hat(?)' writing jobs and getting handful of rejections every day! Absolutely suits them.
They must learn to co-exist and learn to live with globalization AND give their very best to stay in competition, else be wiped out.
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redtide1969
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Very true srb..
What's ironic is that they talk about all of the other high paying professional writing jobs they have away from AC, then follow that up with how they mainly write for AC because of the sense of "community" and friendship. The reality of the matter is that they are either crying and moaning over AC's site glitches, lack of support from AC staff, or directly at each other for the most mundane issues. It's like a constant game of one upsmanship and "writers ego."
I have never seen a more argumentative group of people in all of my life...gotta love that great sense of "community" they thrive in over there.
What's ironic is that they talk about all of the other high paying professional writing jobs they have away from AC, then follow that up with how they mainly write for AC because of the sense of "community" and friendship. The reality of the matter is that they are either crying and moaning over AC's site glitches, lack of support from AC staff, or directly at each other for the most mundane issues. It's like a constant game of one upsmanship and "writers ego."
I have never seen a more argumentative group of people in all of my life...gotta love that great sense of "community" they thrive in over there.
OK, now I am really jealous, lol. They're not PMing me
Anyways, taking a look through their forums, their opinion of Blackhatters are that we're stupid.
They sure do bash blackhatters OMG, like we are killing people. Americans are just so above getting paid a $1 whatever, a buck is a buck and it adds up. I have been there a little over 2 months. Someone sent me a book with all this info, so I am fairly new, but I am making an impression. I need some help though t get from where I am to where I want to go
I am working with my fiance as well, we have both been layed off this year and we are busting out butss as well tryignt o find a quicker way than writing ourselves. We just respinning programs but the articles they spit out are ridiculous, takes more time editing those than some of the writers we have from other areas. Can anyone recomend a good article spinner that wont give me a zillion syllabuls?
Yes, they alll brag abot being a published writer, some of the top writers left saying $5 isn't enough for them. I can write articles on my own and get pretty good upfronts for them, just writing 14 articles in one day is a bummer. Very time consuming, although saves me money.
Yes, they alll brag abot being a published writer, some of the top writers left saying $5 isn't enough for them. I can write articles on my own and get pretty good upfronts for them, just writing 14 articles in one day is a bummer. Very time consuming, although saves me money.