How to make a fresh channel EXPLODE

[Blue Peak Media]

Hey y'all! Mason here - I recommend y'all to check out my first thread to get to know a little bit more about me.

Anyways, I'm looking to create and explode a YouTube channel. I'd be thrilled if you could provide me some value.

So I've found a niche with very high potential that is starting to explode. I want to be part of the channels that coming gushing out of the volcano. A particular channel in the niche has 80k subscribers and 150k+ views on their first video which was only a month ago. Obviously the views were fake as there were only a little over a 100 comments. Their most popular video has a little over a million views and ~500 comments. What's going on with them? Obviously they have their SEO setup. Their content is only decent. There isn't a person behind it that we actually see. I'm sure they have their tags going. How many fake views are they actually sending to each of their videos? How many comments do you think are fake? What about subscribers?

I want to mimic their success, then pass them. What are the methods I should execute in order to do this? I want to achieve the same quick explosive growth they have. Sure a lot of it is fake, but once the niche is all over the place, their wave of 5 million subscribers will be REAL because they were the LEADERS in the niche before it was even popular!

Let me know what I can do for you! I've grown IG accounts in the millions and have also had success elsewhere in IM. I'd be thrilled to share my wisdom with you as you share yours with me.

I'm seriously itching LOL

Lets talk about this! Crap like this makes me lose sleep...

 

[monkey38]

You think like me dude. Like it.

I too found a similar niche and have similar ambitions. Over the last years I have been trying to crack YTand through all my experiences so far so can tell you one thing, for most of these big channels it definitely is neither luck nor SEO or tags but a very definite method.

A month or so ago for the first time after countless tries I finally had success in one niche where the video blue up. I was sending views, comments, likes and the regular and something clicked. The video got picked up by suggested videos and it exploded. Now even though I wasn’t able to replicate this success yet (mostly due to trashy view providers and limited budget) it was eye opening to see what is possible once you really hit it. One video is enough and within a couple of days you easily pass the 4000 hours of watch time and get tons of real views, subs and real engagement which felt good. Imagine what this can do if you really find the process to crack this down and repeat this daily, your channel growth will be enormous and so will be your Adsense checks.

So I am definitely in and hoping for a high quality thread.

 

[dddoyz]

This trick usually needs money, so much money. But the return is big too. I think at least $20-$50k should be provided. But when the channel exploded. It can easily make $100k above permonth..

 

[Blue Peak Media]

This trick usually needs money, so much money. But the return is big too. I think at least $20-$50k should be provided. But when the channel exploded. It can easily make $100k above permonth..

What's a good amount to have for investing? I'm working on this project with my good partner so we can bring our wallets together

 

[monkey38]

This trick usually needs money, so much money. But the return is big too. I think at least $20-$50k should be provided. But when the channel exploded. It can easily make $100k above permonth..

Do you speak from experience? $20-$50k seems like a lot but then again, this might just be the amount required to get it off the ground and self-sustaining. There was a time where I was thinking you need $3-$4k per video which could mean $20-$50k. But honestly, I only invested about $50 for that one video, and while it didn't go into the millions, it got high up in the 100k. If you put out videos like this everyday you could maybe hit up an audience in a month and be very profitable already.

 

[Blue Peak Media]

Do you speak from experience? $20-$50k seems like a lot but then again, this might just be the amount required to get it off the ground and self-sustaining. There was a time where I was thinking you need $3-$4k per video which could mean $20-$50k. But honestly, I only invested about $50 for that one video, and while it didn't go into the millions, it got high up in the 100k. If you put out videos like this everyday you could maybe hit up an audience in a month and be very profitable already.

True. The videos the channels I'm talking about put out are not at all great videos so I can't imagine somebody invests thousands of dollars to one video then publishing the quality of video they do. I mean these videos they publish are in no way exciting or in no way attempt to pull engagement.

 

[ch3sty]

Isn't the Apex Legends niche saturated already?

 

[Blue Peak Media]

Isn't the Apex Legends niche saturated already?

Actually not in that niche but there was many many YouTubere who started 3 years after Minecraft got popular and managed to still get millions of subs.

 

[dddoyz]

What's a good amount to have for investing? I'm working on this project with my good partner so we can bring our wallets together

at least $10k, but it will be better if you have backup money to invest. just in case

Do you speak from experience? $20-$50k seems like a lot but then again, this might just be the amount required to get it off the ground and self-sustaining. There was a time where I was thinking you need $3-$4k per video which could mean $20-$50k. But honestly, I only invested about $50 for that one video, and while it didn't go into the millions, it got high up in the 100k. If you put out videos like this everyday you could maybe hit up an audience in a month and be very profitable already.

not my own experience, but some of my clients. I'm not the ads manager anyway, I just create their animation, and have a little talk to dig their secret, still not really sure what kind of boosting service they use, but they definitely prepare that amount of money.

$20-$50k needed if you want to get viral in one month, from your first video that you upload. sure you can invest $1000, boost 40 video with $50 each, and it can go up to 100k (I even reach 400k view using tubebuddy alone, but it needs me 2 year for that one video). but it will take time, sometime years.

youtube isn't different than other offline business, one of my offline client are noodle company, they go from 'nobody know us' into 'now you'll beg to buy our product' just in couple months, why ? they promote themself using TV ads, in hot spot hour, so many billboard, quizess, sponsporship, I think they got big investor or something. of course money will do nothing if your marketing manager suck. so, yeah..., that's that ...

 

[Blue Peak Media]

at least $10k, but it will be better if you have backup money to invest. just in case


not my own experience, but some of my clients. I'm not the ads manager anyway, I just create their animation, and have a little talk to dig their secret, still not really sure what kind of boosting service they use, but they definitely prepare that amount of money.

$20-$50k needed if you want to get viral in one month, from your first video that you upload. sure you can invest $1000, boost 40 video with $50 each, and it can go up to 100k (I even reach 400k view using tubebuddy alone, but it needs me 2 year for that one video). but it will take time, sometime years.

youtube isn't different than other offline business, one of my offline client are noodle company, they go from 'nobody know us' into 'now you'll beg to buy our product' just in couple months, why ? they promote themself using TV ads, in hot spot hour, so many billboard, quizess, sponsporship, I think they got big investor or something. of course money will do nothing if your marketing manager suck. so, yeah..., that's that ...

Interesting. Do you know if it matters what your non-boosted videos get when you boost the new video? I want to grow the channel but I don't want to lay down thousands until I notice a peak in the niche itself, then I can capitalize on it going viral.

 

[SocialManager]

If you can get shout-outs from other established YouTubers you can go viral like a gushing volcano.

 

[Blue Peak Media]

If you can get shout-outs from other established YouTubers you can go viral like a gushing volcano.

True true as well!

 

[HaCr]

Do you speak from experience? $20-$50k seems like a lot but then again.

Yes that is a lot but is a fairly accurate range. I have a few music clients that are in the top 500 rankings globally, and two artists that legit sell out stadiums on tour. I'm pretty familiar with these types of marketing budgets using Google Ads.

When we launch big new music videos for these brands, $20k is on the lower end of the budget we use to push towards 10 million views in the first 30 days. But $50k-$100k is not unheard of.

For acts like Taylor Swift, I have no doubt they are investing high six figures on the promotion of a new music video. Pay attention to how fast the top 10 music acts get to 100 million views. The promotional efforts behind those launches takes a full-time PR/Marketing team, not just Google Ads management, which is a big part of it. That also requires legitimate backlinks on hundreds of music publications, outreach to thousands of social media influencers, IG Ads, FB Ads, Pinterest Ads, you name it and those marketing teams are doing it.

Granted, when you're a brand that can pull in a minimum of a quarter of a million dollars in ticket sales revenue for every live show you perform, it's easier to consistently have that kind of budget for new music video launches.

It all feeds on itself.

To 'explode' on YouTube consistently and to grow at a top-tier rate, it takes a significant investment and good content. For companies with money it's a lot easier than having to gamble on hopefully having the recommendation algorithm rank your content and push it on recommended lists. You're competing with 500 hours of content uploaded every minute. It's certainly possible though.

 

[Blue Peak Media]

Yes that is a lot but is a fairly accurate range. I have a few music clients that are in the top 500 rankings globally, and two artists that legit sell out stadiums on tour. I'm pretty familiar with these types of marketing budgets using Google Ads.

When we launch big new music videos for these brands, $20k is on the lower end of the budget we use to push towards 10 million views in the first 30 days. But $50k-$100k is not unheard of.

For acts like Taylor Swift, I have no doubt they are investing high six figures on the promotion of a new music video. Pay attention to how fast the top 10 music acts get to 100 million views. The promotional efforts behind those launches takes a full-time PR/Marketing team, not just Google Ads management, which is a big part of it. That also requires legitimate backlinks on hundreds of music publications, outreach to thousands of social media influencers, IG Ads, FB Ads, Pinterest Ads, you name it and those marketing teams are doing it.

Granted, when you're a brand that can pull in a minimum of a quarter of a million dollars in ticket sales revenue for every live show you perform, it's easier to consistently have that kind of budget for new music video launches.

It all feeds on itself.

To 'explode' on YouTube consistently and to grow at a top-tier rate, it takes a significant investment and good content. For companies with money it's a lot easier than having to gamble on hopefully having the recommendation algorithm rank your content and push it on recommended lists. You're competing with 500 hours of content uploaded every minute. It's certainly possible though.

Bunch of valuable info! Thank you. In the example channel I provided, do you think their entire channel is fake? Their content is in no way good so I don't see them pouring thousands into it. However I can see Taylor Swift pouring money into her video because she actually put tons of effort into producing it.

 

[HaCr]

In the example channel I provided, do you think their entire channel is fake?

If you are talking about those comment ratios, not necessarily. Lots of the top videos have comment to view ratios of 1:1000 to 1:10,000, that's the normal range for comments.

So if you're saying that your example video had 150,000 views and 100 comments that's a ratio of 1:1,500 which isn't that bad at all.

And if the 1 million view video had 500 comments that's still a 1:2000 ratio.

For smaller channels, yes the comment ratios are generally better than that because you can have a more enthusiastic core audience. But if you start analyzing the comment to view ratios of videos with 10 million+ views you'll find that the 1:5000 ratio is pretty typical.

Ratios for subscribers, likes, and playlist adds are generally much better though.

The organic subscribe rate YouTube wide hovers around 1:200 from video views.

Comments are the worst ratio as far as calculating levels of engagement.

Which is good to know so you can set your expectations more in line with industry averages rather than thinking you need one comment for every ten views to rank well. You really don't, not even close.

To determine if your example channels are using fake views I'd have to analyze the analytics in Creator Studio to determine for sure. There is a good chance it's a mix of real and fake. And the only way to know exactly would be if I had access to their analytics, which I don't. But there are some things you can look for on the channel itself publicly. I'm waiting for a company like Hype Auditor to move in to the realm of YouTube so that it becomes much easier to quickly say how much of a YouTube Channel is fake based on public information.

 

[Blue Peak Media]

If you are talking about those comment ratios, not necessarily. Lots of the top videos have comment to view ratios of 1:1000 to 1:10,000, that's the normal range for comments.

So if you're saying that your example video had 150,000 views and 100 comments that's a ratio of 1:1,500 which isn't that bad at all.

And if the 1 million view video had 500 comments that's still a 1:2000 ratio.

For smaller channels, yes the comment ratios are generally better than that because you can have a more enthusiastic core audience. But if you start analyzing the comment to view ratios of videos with 10 million+ views you'll find that the 1:5000 ratio is pretty typical.

Ratios for subscribers, likes, and playlist adds are generally much better though.

The organic subscribe rate YouTube wide hovers around 1:200 from video views.

Comments are the worst ratio as far as calculating levels of engagement.

Which is good to know so you can set your expectations more in line with industry averages rather than thinking you need one comment for every ten views to rank well. You really don't, not even close.

To determine if your example channels are using fake views I'd have to analyze the analytics in Creator Studio to determine for sure. There is a good chance it's a mix of real and fake. And the only way to know exactly would be if I had access to their analytics, which I don't. But there are some things you can look for on the channel itself publicly. I'm waiting for a company like Hype Auditor to move in to the realm of YouTube so that it becomes much easier to quickly say how much of a YouTube Channel is fake based on public information.

Thank you man, the ratios will be very helpful when I grow my own channels! I assume they start off with fake views. The comments usually follow a similar format and have about 75 likes each. Is it true SEO has almost no value in YouTube rankings? Most of my audience are 7-8-10-14 years old, I observed they usually always click their next video in the recommended tab.

 

[monkey38]

Yes that is a lot but is a fairly accurate range. I have a few music clients that are in the top 500 rankings globally, and two artists that legit sell out stadiums on tour. I'm pretty familiar with these types of marketing budgets using Google Ads.

When we launch big new music videos for these brands, $20k is on the lower end of the budget we use to push towards 10 million views in the first 30 days. But $50k-$100k is not unheard of.

For acts like Taylor Swift, I have no doubt they are investing high six figures on the promotion of a new music video. Pay attention to how fast the top 10 music acts get to 100 million views. The promotional efforts behind those launches takes a full-time PR/Marketing team, not just Google Ads management, which is a big part of it. That also requires legitimate backlinks on hundreds of music publications, outreach to thousands of social media influencers, IG Ads, FB Ads, Pinterest Ads, you name it and those marketing teams are doing it.

Granted, when you're a brand that can pull in a minimum of a quarter of a million dollars in ticket sales revenue for every live show you perform, it's easier to consistently have that kind of budget for new music video launches.

It all feeds on itself.

To 'explode' on YouTube consistently and to grow at a top-tier rate, it takes a significant investment and good content. For companies with money it's a lot easier than having to gamble on hopefully having the recommendation algorithm rank your content and push it on recommended lists. You're competing with 500 hours of content uploaded every minute. It's certainly possible though.

I totally agree. As I said in the next sentence, it seems accurate to me, too especially for big music artists.

Would you really say it's adwords though? I see some vevo music channels actually pushing ads infront of youtube but for most hits it seems more like faking organic views and engagement from all platforms. As someone with experience, would you say these big music artists also purchase fake views/comments/likes etc to get that initial millions of views (probably from exclusive view panels)? That in and of itself would already be thousands of dollars

 

[Jaaan]

Thank you man, the ratios will be very helpful when I grow my own channels! I assume they start off with fake views. The comments usually follow a similar format and have about 75 likes each. Is it true SEO has almost no value in YouTube rankings? Most of my audience are 7-8-10-14 years old, I observed they usually always click their next video in the recommended tab.

In my opinion it is also worth pointing out that the ratios depend on the genre and type of videos. I have spent hours analysing videos and putting 100 billboard top music videos separated by categories. Latin music videos have different ratio than US pop music. There is also substantial difference between fun music videos (e.g. Lonely Planet) and standard Ed Sheeran songs. However, all great companies (Wartner, Universal, Sony, IMI) buy views and comments. Try to observe closely how new videos are being launched. I recently noticed that one of Taylor Swift's songs had in some moment more comments than views. After a moment there were also more likes and comments than views... It's ridiculous because some comments were absolutely irrelevant to the song, written in different language or refering to different song. In other words, they have bought views, subs, comments and likes in inappropriate order so they really did it recklessly but who cares? All people know whom she is and the golden rule of marketing will pay here as well: fake it until you make it

 

[monkey38]

In my opinion it is also worth pointing out that the ratios depend on the genre and type of videos. I have spent hours analysing videos and putting 100 billboard top music videos separated by categories. Latin music videos have different ratio than US pop music. There is also substantial difference between fun music videos (e.g. Lonely Planet) and standard Ed Sheeran songs. However, all great companies (Wartner, Universal, Sony, IMI) buy views and comments. Try to observe closely how new videos are being launched. I recently noticed that one of Taylor Swift's songs had in some moment more comments than views. After a moment there were also more likes and comments than views... It's ridiculous because some comments were absolutely irrelevant to the song, written in different language or refering to different song. In other words, they have bought views, subs, comments and likes in inappropriate order so they really did it recklessly but who cares? All people know whom she is and the golden rule of marketing will pay here as well: fake it until you make it

I thought so too. I have analyzed some of my competitors videos for the ratios but never been able to replicate it. Also a big question is the source and quality of the videos (if that is even important) or if it is really just about hitting the ratios. Care to share some of your findings (PM if you don't want to share openly) so we can discuss this further. I am really really looking for something to make videos go viral on a consistent basis like the big companies do.

 

[Jaaan]

I thought so too. I have analyzed some of my competitors videos for the ratios but never been able to replicate it. Also a big question is the source and quality of the videos (if that is even important) or if it is really just about hitting the ratios. Care to share some of your findings (PM if you don't want to share openly) so we can discuss this further. I am really really looking for something to make videos go viral on a consistent basis like the big companies do.

I don't mind sharing publically I guess I may not have that many interesting findings. However, statistically I see many discrepancies between the videos and channels. I don't think there is only a question of rations - perhaps more experienced youtube users may be willing to share something about the SEO in this case. Comments may be used as a keywords for shares. If we get down to analyzing the comments of some viral videos it will turn out that the majority of them come from the same accounts and are exactly the same. What is more surprising, some are absolutely irrelevant to the content but they still have some significance for the youtube engine. This is kind of a puzzle so far for me but I guess I will figure it out. I am now more focused on instagram. Coders are mathematicians by their minds. If they put something in code on the 0 to 1 basis - there must be an equasion to get into the algorythm Pacience is the key to long-term testing of those algorythms