Need recommendations for PBN's hosting.

[RayChand]

PBN's in pbn.hosting get a dynamic IP that changes frequently. Instead of sharing with other PBNs you're sharing with literally millions of legitimate sites. And as it's generally a higher quality of site that will serve its content through a CDN, you're sharing with highly trusted, authoritative sites on top class IPs instead of bottom feeding websites on some back alley bad neighborhood IPs.

However, what are your recommendations for PBN's hosting?

Dynamic IP is nothing but IP cloaking, it is just a fancy word for those who doesnt like to hear "cloaking". Let us not start a discussion on whether google can find the actual IP behind a CDN, that would be a pointless discussion if we are already considering google to be a noob.

My recommendation is to host with big web hosts normally as you would do with your money sites. Yes, it may be costly but that is the only way to increase the life of your PBNs. Or find a provider who does it, there are few out there, i am not going to name them.

 

[Donatas J]

Dynamic IP is nothing but IP cloaking, it is just a fancy word for those who doesnt like to hear "cloaking". Let us not start a discussion on whether google can find the actual IP behind a CDN, that would be a pointless discussion if we are already considering google to be a noob.

My recommendation is to host with big web hosts normally as you would do with your money sites. Yes, it may be costly but that is the only way to increase the life of your PBNs. Or find a provider who does it, there are few out there, i am not going to name them.

Thank you very much. I have contacted you privately for those providers names

 

[Webbiy]

Ive used easy blog and some others, but im with Priority Prospect now and I like them.

 

[RayChand]

Ive used easy blog and some others, but im with Priority Prospect now and I like them.

They dont reveal who are their providers, FLAG
They offer dedicated IPs, FLAG
Again, its cloud hosting, FLAG
Which means few servers in few locations and every PBN will be on them
Imagine google sniffing out couple of PBNs and then the whole network will be at risk

 

[4JohnWick]

Make it 50/50 Between hosting and Cloudlfare to mask your nameservers to offset the cost

 

[RayChand]

Make it 50/50 Between hosting and Cloudlfare to mask your nameservers to offset the cost

It ain't so difficult to find the IP behind a cloudfare nameserver for a system admin and you can guess how difficult it is for Google
OR
Read this http://www.crimeflare.com/cfs.html

 

[Aty]

What do you think about pbn.hosting?

PBN hosting services are dangerous in my opinion.

 

[RayChand]

PBN hosting services are dangerous in my opinion.

Depends...IMO

 

[Aty]

Depends...IMO

Care to elaborate?

 

[RayChand]

Care to elaborate?

PBN hosting which cover the footprints well can give you value for money and better cost effective method of hosting. Else buying hosting packages can become costly once you cross 20 domains. For smaller businesses, it does make sense. For larger ones, we end up looking for a hosting company which can do it for us. But not everyone covers the footprints well as they also look to maximise the profits and reduce overheads. I am neck deep into such a project hence know the ins and outs of it now. There are few gems out there, but most of them are owned by big brand SEO agencies and they are open only by invites so i am not sure how smaller fish like us get in.

 

[Diplomat]

They dont reveal who are their providers, FLAG
They offer dedicated IPs, FLAG
Again, its cloud hosting, FLAG
Which means few servers in few locations and every PBN will be on them
Imagine google sniffing out couple of PBNs and then the whole network will be at risk

Yes, we don't reveal our service providers because it would be quite easy to find all of their IP ranges and then find out what's hosted where. We don't reveal our upstream providers for security reasons, to protect our clients. Shouldn't it be obvious?

You know, dedicated IP means that only your website will be on that IP.

Cloud hosting is a technology term and it doesn't mean we use cloud hosting services like AWS, DigitalOcean, Vultr and so on. We do NOT use such services.

Also, we have over 40 different datacenters and we just added 5 brand new locations + 1 new datacenter. This week, we will be adding 3 brand new locations and 3 new datacenters to existing locations. We have hundreds of edge nodes, full of IPs.
We have been in PBN hosting business for 4 years now. If we would have handful of servers with shared IPs then I'm more than sure Google would have found out all of our IP ranges already.

So, it seems that you don't have much knowledge about our service or you are placing us into same pot with 3 other major PBN hosts. The thing is, our service is completely different than they have. Feel free to contact our support if you would like to learn more about about Priority Prospect, we are happy to help.

 

[Aty]

PBN hosting which cover the footprints well can give you value for money and better cost effective method of hosting. Else buying hosting packages can become costly once you cross 20 domains. For smaller businesses, it does make sense. For larger ones, we end up looking for a hosting company which can do it for us. But not everyone covers the footprints well as they also look to maximise the profits and reduce overheads. I am neck deep into such a project hence know the ins and outs of it now. There are few gems out there, but most of them are owned by big brand SEO agencies and they are open only by invites so i am not sure how smaller fish like us get in.

Agreed, however they can be exposed to / discovered by Google anytime.

 

[RayChand]

Yes, we don't reveal our service providers because it would be quite easy to find all of their IP ranges and then find out what's hosted where. We don't reveal our upstream providers for security reasons, to protect our clients. Shouldn't it be obvious?

You know, dedicated IP means that only your website will be on that IP.

Cloud hosting is a technology term and it doesn't mean we use cloud hosting services like AWS, DigitalOcean, Vultr and so on. We do NOT use such services.

Also, we have over 40 different datacenters and we just added 5 brand new locations + 1 new datacenter. This week, we will be adding 3 brand new locations and 3 new datacenters to existing locations. We have hundreds of edge nodes, full of IPs.
We have been in PBN hosting business for 4 years now. If we would have handful of servers with shared IPs then I'm more than sure Google would have found out all of our IP ranges already.

So, it seems that you don't have much knowledge about our service or you are placing us into same pot with 3 other major PBN hosts. The thing is, our service is completely different than they have. Feel free to contact our support if you would like to learn more about about Priority Prospect, we are happy to help.

I am not considering just someone unravelling your IPs, i am assuming google here. Once they gets hold of the IPs.....And what you thought was not obvious, rather it needs more clarification.

Be transparent with customers, tell how you conduct operations, just for the sake of secrecy in the name of someone prying on your IPs is not convincing.

For PBN hosting its all about how your provider conducts the operations to ensure a footprint free platform. As a customer i have the right to know that, you can think otherwise.

TBH, i am yet to find a provider who reveals how they conduct their hosting business. Buy few servers, buy bunch of IPs and throw it around, that's it. And we will keep wondering why our rankings are not blinking.

Oh BTW, i havent used your service or seen your service, so no comments on that.

 

[Diplomat]

I am not considering just someone unravelling your IPs, i am assuming google here. Once they gets hold of the IPs.....And what you thought was not obvious, rather it needs more clarification.
Be transparent with customers, tell how you conduct operations, just for the sake of secrecy in the name of someone prying on your IPs is not convincing.

If it doesn't convince you then well.. there's not much we can do. We can't please everyone. We have very strict security rules for a reason and it has been working very well for us for years.

For PBN hosting its all about how your provider conducts the operations to ensure a footprint free platform. As a customer i have the right to know that, you can think otherwise.

How we stay footprint free is written on our website.

TBH, i am yet to find a provider who reveals how they conduct their hosting business. Buy few servers, buy bunch of IPs and throw it around, that's it. And we will keep wondering why our rankings are not blinking.

Our technology stack is public, it's written on our website as well and even in our BST. Yes, there are some things that we don't talk about, but doesn't every business have some business secrets that they don't share with public?

If your rankings are not blinking then you are doing something wrong. You can't blame hosting companies for your low authority domains, bad web design and poorly built articles.

IOh BTW, i havent used your service or seen your service, so no comments on that.

This is why you assumed all those things. As I said, if you have any questions, you are welcome to ask from us and we are happy to answer.

 

[RayChand]

If it doesn't convince you then well.. there's not much we can do. We can't please everyone.

Customers are supposed to be convinced and pleased, both. You don't believe in it. Hence further discussion is pointless.

 

[RayChand]

If it doesn't convince you then well.. there's not much we can do. We can't please everyone. We have very strict security rules for a reason and it has been working very well for us for years.


How we stay footprint free is written on our website.



Our technology stack is public, it's written on our website as well and even in our BST. Yes, there are some things that we don't talk about, but doesn't every business have some business secrets that they don't share with public?

If your rankings are not blinking then you are doing something wrong. You can't blame hosting companies for your low authority domains, bad web design and poorly built articles.



This is why you assumed all those things. As I said, if you have any questions, you are welcome to ask from us and we are happy to answer.

Oh, i mistook you for the hosting mentioned in the opening post, you are a different one Since i haven't tried out your services, ignore my comments and apologies for the judgement error