Getting Paypal money out

[Scorpion Ghost]

Really, what's the best way I can do it without involving other people?

Well, I guess, say if you go the bitcoin route (and im no expert).

You would go to a bitcoin site, exchanger, forum marketplace thread, and make a deal with someone to send them money with Paypal and they send you Bitcoins (of course, you need a bitcoin wallet or some site to be able to accept the bitcoins).

Then you would have the bitcoins. Now again you go to some bitcoin site, exchanger, forum marketplace thread, and make a deal with someone to send them your bitcoins, and they send you the money to Payoneer. And since you want without invoicing, the sender has to be able to send you the money from their Payoneer account. So a payoneer-to-payoneer payment. Because as far as I know, receiving a payment on Payoneer with a card or echeck you have to send an invoice to the person sending you the money.

So I guess, yeah, there you go.

There's people here who know this bitcoin stuff and payoneer stuff better than me, maybe someone can chime in and give some more info. Like where to find a reliable exchanger to do this, what to watch for, etc.

 

[HustleRick]

Well, I guess, say if you go the bitcoin route (and im no expert).

You would go to a bitcoin site, exchanger, forum marketplace thread, and make a deal with someone to send them money with Paypal and they send you Bitcoins (of course, you need a bitcoin wallet or some site to be able to accept the bitcoins).

Then you would have the bitcoins. Now again you go to some bitcoin site, exchanger, forum marketplace thread, and make a deal with someone to send them your bitcoins, and they send you the money to Payoneer. And since you want without invoicing, the sender has to be able to send you the money from their Payoneer account. So a payoneer-to-payoneer payment. Because as far as I know, receiving a payment on Payoneer with a card or echeck you have to send an invoice to the person sending you the money.

So I guess, yeah, there you go.

There's people here who know this bitcoin stuff and payoneer stuff better than me, maybe someone can chime in and give some more info. Like where to find a reliable exchanger to do this, what to watch for, etc.

You could try the Android APP "Mycelium", which is a wallet that has an in-built marketplace. Local buyers and sellers from your region are showing up there to buy and sell Crypto with your local currency. If you're doing this and selling Bitcoin, I'd advise you to meet with the people directly in a local bank and tell them to get their cash from the ATM. This makes sure the bills aren't counterfeit.

Other than that, you could go the localbitcoins.com route. Usually you want to deal with the most reputable members only. Almost all of those require ID verification for their own security reasons though. So you may need a newer buyer, that doesn't have a big track record yet, which increases your risk of being scammed unfortunately. There are a lot of ways people are trying to scam you, sometimes even really creative lol. But basically NEVER EVER release your escrow if you don't receive your cash. No matter what they are saying to you.

Hope this helped you out.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

You could try the Android APP "Mycelium", which is a wallet that has an in-built marketplace. Local buyers and sellers from your region are showing up there to buy and sell Crypto with your local currency. If you're doing this and selling Bitcoin, I'd advise you to meet with the people directly in a local bank and tell them to get their cash from the ATM. This makes sure the bills aren't counterfeit.

Other than that, you could go the localbitcoins.com route. Usually you want to deal with the most reputable members only. Almost all of those require ID verification for their own security reasons though. So you may need a newer buyer, that doesn't have a big track record yet, which increases your risk of being scammed unfortunately. There are a lot of ways people are trying to scam you, sometimes even really creative lol. But basically NEVER EVER release your escrow if you don't receive your cash. No matter what they are saying to you.

Hope this helped you out.

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Thanks man. Great info

 

[HoNeYBiRD]

Yeah I just feel like it's a dead giveaway. PP in one name, bank account in another. Different addresses too. It's just playing with fire with my money, you know.

The address doesn't matter with bank accounts, it only matters with credit cards to an extent. The only issue can be the name mismatch, but that's pretty easy to find out. It either turns out when you try to link the bank account or when you try to withdraw. If it allows to link it, withdraw a small amount first, worst case scenario: the withdrawal gets reversed and you lose a small amount as a fee. Nothing will happen to the account, funds won't disapppear into thin air either. If it goes through, you just found the best way to get the money out without relying on others or losing any of it.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

The address doesn't matter with bank accounts, it only matters with credit cards to an extent. The only issue can be the name mismatch, but that's pretty easy to find out. It either turns out when you try to link the bank account or when you try to withdraw. If it allows to link it, withdraw a small amount first, worst case scenario: the withdrawal gets reversed and you lose a small amount as a fee. Nothing will happen to the account, funds won't disapppear into thin air either. If it goes through, you just found the best way to get the money out without relying on others or losing any of it.

Wow, thanks man, you always have great info.

Thing is, my country Paypal doesn't allow you to link a bank account. In fact, I think only USA bank accounts can be linked. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Then the solution is to get a USA bank account. Getting an actual one by physically going to the bank, not gonna happen. Therefore we're left with stuff like Payoneer and other such services, which in a way provide you with a USA bank account. I'm aware of this as a possible solution. In fact, some people have reported success with linking their Payoneer to their Paypal and withdrawing, or even Transferwise I think I read someone did it successfully. But most people didn't succeed at it.

Worth a shot I guess.

 

[TheBizCat]

Personally, I’ve been using a stealth PP for a couple of days now and what I’ve been doing is — now bear with me here — buying OldSchool Runescape gold for about $1 per million (With PayPal funds) and then selling the gold for $0.85-0.90 per million at a different vendor. Most vendors payout in Skrill, Payoneer and even sometimes Bitcoin (I guess this can be used as a method to buy BTC without any docs or verification if that’s something you’re into ). Depending on gold prices, it’s around a 10-15% fee of the amount but it’s all said and done usually within 15 mins and I have my money in hand.

 

[HoNeYBiRD]

Wow, thanks man, you always have great info.

Thing is, my country Paypal doesn't allow you to link a bank account. In fact, I think only USA bank accounts can be linked. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Then the solution is to get a USA bank account. Getting an actual one by physically going to the bank, not gonna happen. Therefore we're left with stuff like Payoneer and other such services, which in a way provide you with a USA bank account. I'm aware of this as a possible solution. In fact, some people have reported success with linking their Payoneer to their Paypal and withdrawing, or even Transferwise I think I read someone did it successfully. But most people didn't succeed at it.

Worth a shot I guess.

I see. A US bank account can be linked to PayPal in selected countries: https://www.paypal.com/al/smarthelp...u.s.-bank-account-to-my-paypal-account-faq470. But if you're stuck with VBAs, that will be trial and error until you find one which works. I have my Payoneer VBA linked, but i did that a while ago and haven't actually tried to withdraw to it. I haven't tried Transferwise, i read mixed things about linking that.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Personally, I’ve been using a stealth PP for a couple of days now and what I’ve been doing is — now bear with me here — buying OldSchool Runescape gold for about $1 per million (With PayPal funds) and then selling the gold for $0.85-0.90 per million at a different vendor. Most vendors payout in Skrill, Payoneer and even sometimes Bitcoin (I guess this can be used as a method to buy BTC without any docs or verification if that’s something you’re into ). Depending on gold prices, it’s around a 10-15% fee of the amount but it’s all said and done usually within 15 mins and I have my money in hand.

Wow, I love it! That's some real shit!

Can you break it down for me. Say you have $500 bucks on PP, and you do your thing in order to get the money to Payoneer/Skrill/etc.

How much do you expect to actually get once the process is completed, give or take?

Thanks

I see. A US bank account can be linked to PayPal in selected countries: https://www.paypal.com/al/smarthelp...u.s.-bank-account-to-my-paypal-account-faq470. But if you're stuck with VBAs, that will be trial and error until you find one which works. I have my Payoneer VBA linked, but i did that a while ago and haven't actually tried to withdraw to it. I haven't tried Transferwise, i read mixed things about linking that.

I tried it out, went to the Add Bank account page on my Paypal, and I can add one, but it has the be US. So I guess my country Paypal supports that.

Problem is getting a WBA and managing to successfully connect it, and then managing to successfully withdraw money. And then the question is, how long is it gonna work for.

What do you think about the Runescape gold thing that TheBizCat mentioned above?

 

[Wannsong]

The guy with osrs gold does it nice, you can do that search about osrs gold in goolge and you will find a lot of sites, compare prices and see where you lose minimum amount, then you just create character in osrs and buy the gold, something important (as i was botting this game and have some experience in this kind of stuff) when you do the trade ingame to put few items by your side when trading the gold (after you pass tutorial island you'll have items to put), because buy/sell gold is bannable and it looks suspicious when you recieve 100m gold from your brand new character. Or you can login in steam and find someone who's trading dota/csgo items, most of them use few payment methods, you can check their reputation threads to look if they are leggit and when you find one that you like you can ask him to exchange currency from paypal to skrill or other way round, that's how i used to do it in the past. Most of them do not want taxes, but you can offer them few bucks for the service if you'd like to.

 

[HoNeYBiRD]

What do you think about the Runescape gold thing that TheBizCat mentioned above?

Buying stuff and selling it cheaper generally can work until you're comfortable with buying/selling that particular item and there's no chance to get fucked over in the process. You see, i know nothing about Runescape and virtual gold, so more than likely i'd try to find something different. But it sounds like a plan.

That freelancer trick mentioned above is also an age old one.

 

[Tagerinsta]

The problem is that Paypal doesn't always accept Payoneer bank account to be linked to Paypal. I mean, worth a shot, but might not work. And also, sending money via Paypal is less risky I guess than withdrawing it. I just feel like Paypal is less likely to put your payment under review if you're sending it to a person than if you're withdrawing it.

And then, you're withdrawing it to Payoneer in this case (if you were even allowed to link it in the first place), so maybe the withdrawal gets rejected because it's a virtual bank account or whatever.

i don't mean payoneer bank account but i mean payoneer master card, withdraw your money to payoneer mastercard than transfert them or to any other visa card like paysera for ex , and than send the money from the visa card or master card to another master card from the same company and link the second one with your original paypal account , and you can use those money

 

[Danny Norato]

I have a question, I hope anyone would answer me, I have an american paypal account, and it got blocked, the only way to withdraw is thru a bank account, what can I do? (I am not from USA) Does TransferWire works?

 

[TheBizCat]

Wow, I love it! That's some real shit!

Can you break it down for me. Say you have $500 bucks on PP, and you do your thing in order to get the money to Payoneer/Skrill/etc.

How much do you expect to actually get once the process is completed, give or take?

Sure!

Basically, you'd go to a site like http://aribagold.com/ and you can buy $500 worth of gold for $0.86 per million, so you'd be getting 581 million. (***Prices fluctuate daily, so ALWAYS check buying and selling rates before you make any sort of purchase or sale of gold.***)

In order to collect your gold, you'll need to have an OSRS account. After you purchase, you'll be sent to a page giving you directions on what world to go to and who to trade with to receive your gold. Go and pickup your gold.

Then, you can go to a different vendor to sell the gold, often times I'll just clear my cache and cookies and go to the same site I bought the gold from and sell it there as they have the best rates. Then, we'll sell the gold we bought for $0.71 per million (Once again, these rates change daily so be sure to check those before doing any buying or selling), so of the $500 we started with we'd be cashing out $418 at current market rates.

 

[TheBizCat]

i know nothing about Runescape and virtual gold, so more than likely i'd try to find something different.

Yeah, you can really use any commonly traded in-game commodity, I just usually use OSRS gold because I have my funds the fastest.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

The guy with osrs gold does it nice, you can do that search about osrs gold in goolge and you will find a lot of sites, compare prices and see where you lose minimum amount, then you just create character in osrs and buy the gold, something important (as i was botting this game and have some experience in this kind of stuff) when you do the trade ingame to put few items by your side when trading the gold (after you pass tutorial island you'll have items to put), because buy/sell gold is bannable and it looks suspicious when you recieve 100m gold from your brand new character. Or you can login in steam and find someone who's trading dota/csgo items, most of them use few payment methods, you can check their reputation threads to look if they are leggit and when you find one that you like you can ask him to exchange currency from paypal to skrill or other way round, that's how i used to do it in the past. Most of them do not want taxes, but you can offer them few bucks for the service if you'd like to.

Hm. I really don't wanna play a game (even if it's just for show) in order to do this. Not that I have anything against games, I'm just so busy. But I guess it is an option on the table.

The steam thing sounds better to me, although I'm sure if anyone was willing to exchange PP to Skrill or anything else, they'd want to make a little bit of profit from the deal at least. And they'd lose about 5% on receiving the money (PP receiving fee), and then they take a cut, so again you're looking at losing 7-10% of your money in the process.

But it's a good option, thank you for the info

Buying stuff and selling it cheaper generally can work until you're comfortable with buying/selling that particular item and there's no chance to get fucked over in the process. You see, i know nothing about Runescape and virtual gold, so more than likely i'd try to find something different. But it sounds like a plan.

That freelancer trick mentioned above is also an age old one.

Yeah, that buying and selling stuff would take some upfront work. Find which product to buy, find people/places to sell it which can pay you with payment methods that are not Paypal. But it's definitely an option.

Yeah the Freelancer trick is a good one.

You know, I guess if someone has a lot of money to move from PP then they would probably diversify and use multiple methods to cashout. This is because of PP, you don't want them seeing that ALL your money keeps going to the same place/person. But if you spend some on freelancer and some for some guy for some gold and some for some crypto guy, I think it's safer.

i don't mean payoneer bank account but i mean payoneer master card, withdraw your money to payoneer mastercard than transfert them or to any other visa card like paysera for ex , and than send the money from the visa card or master card to another master card from the same company and link the second one with your original paypal account , and you can use those money

Hey, love your username

Maybe it's country-specific, but from what I know you can connect your Payoneer mastercard to Paypal, but only for depositing money from it into Paypal, no withdrawal to it possible.

Or do you mean pay yourself somehow from Paypal to Payoneer mastercard. I don't even know, is it possible to pay from Paypal to a credit/debit card directly?

But if you got the money to your Payoneer (or any) mastercard, why would you do the rest of it? Send it to paysera and then send it to a different card, and then link that different card to paypal, and use the money? We're talking about getting money out of paypal, not shuffling it around and then getting it back into Paypal

I have a question, I hope anyone would answer me, I have an american paypal account, and it got blocked, the only way to withdraw is thru a bank account, what can I do? (I am not from USA) Does TransferWire works?

Try Payoneer.

Sure!

Basically, you'd go to a site like http://aribagold.com/ and you can buy $500 worth of gold for $0.86 per million, so you'd be getting 581 million. (***Prices fluctuate daily, so ALWAYS check buying and selling rates before you make any sort of purchase or sale of gold.***)

In order to collect your gold, you'll need to have an OSRS account. After you purchase, you'll be sent to a page giving you directions on what world to go to and who to trade with to receive your gold. Go and pickup your gold.

Then, you can go to a different vendor to sell the gold, often times I'll just clear my cache and cookies and go to the same site I bought the gold from and sell it there as they have the best rates. Then, we'll sell the gold we bought for $0.71 per million (Once again, these rates change daily so be sure to check those before doing any buying or selling), so of the $500 we started with we'd be cashing out $418 at current market rates.

Yeah, you can really use any commonly traded in-game commodity, I just usually use OSRS gold because I have my funds the fastest.

That's great. Thanks man

 

[Tagerinsta]

But if you got the money to your Payoneer (or any) mastercard, why would you do the rest of it? Send it to paysera and then send it to a different card, and then link that different card to paypal, and use the money? We're talking about getting money out of paypal, not shuffling it around and then getting it back into Paypal

me too liked your username bro btw ^_^
so it's simple just sell your money locally if your from third world country, if not travel to third world country like arabs one and sell your money to local people with their currency than you make it out, because people in third world countries face hardship to get money in their paypal to buy things online, so you can sell them this service and it will be win - win business

i hope it's helps you !

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

me too liked your username bro btw ^_^
so it's simple just sell your money locally if your from third world country, if not travel to third world country like arabs one and sell your money to local people with their currency than you make it out, because people in third world countries face hardship to get money in their paypal to buy things online, so you can sell them this service and it will be win - win business

i hope it's helps you !

Well, that's thinking out of the box.

Although, I don't really understand why would anybody have a difficulty getting their money in Paypal. Unless you're talking about countries that are not allowed to have Paypal at all, and then people there who want to shop for something online with Paypal, but can't, and then I can pay for them with Paypal, and they give me the cash.

It's a good idea actually, but to actually go to those countries and do it, I mean, you'd probably have to have a substantial amount in Paypal to flip. Although, I guess people could be found online for it too, except them giving you cash, they send you the money with Payoneer or some other method.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

me too liked your username bro btw ^_^
so it's simple just sell your money locally if your from third world country, if not travel to third world country like arabs one and sell your money to local people with their currency than you make it out, because people in third world countries face hardship to get money in their paypal to buy things online, so you can sell them this service and it will be win - win business

i hope it's helps you !

I've been thinking a little about what you said, and your idea might be the best one yet.

Find people or companies from countries that don't have Paypal, and offer to buy things they want to buy with Paypal. And then they send you the money to Payoneer or Skrill or anything else you can both use.

This way you can probably get away with keeping all of your money too, as you're offering them something they need, and you get something you need. It's a win-win. They get to buy what they need with Paypal, and you get to get that money from Paypal into some other ebank.

Maybe you lose a few bucks on any receiving fees, but that's about it.

I know Bangladesh has no Paypal, but they have Payoneer. I'm sure there are a number of other countries with the same problem.

What do you guys think about this?

 

[nyemkuna]

I've been thinking a little about what you said, and your idea might be the best one yet.

Find people or companies from countries that don't have Paypal, and offer to buy things they want to buy with Paypal. And then they send you the money to Payoneer or Skrill or anything else you can both use.

This way you can probably get away with keeping all of your money too, as you're offering them something they need, and you get something you need. It's a win-win. They get to buy what they need with Paypal, and you get to get that money from Paypal into some other ebank.

Maybe you lose a few bucks on any receiving fees, but that's about it.

I know Bangladesh has no Paypal, but they have Payoneer. I'm sure there are a number of other countries with the same problem.

What do you guys think about this?

This to me stands out from the other options in terms of keeping all of your money,but until you can come up with a middle man or escrow or suable means of trading,i don't see you going home with all of your money. Lots of scams out there.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

This to me stands out from the other options in terms of keeping all of your money,but until you can come up with a middle man or escrow or suable means of trading,i don't see you going home with all of your money. Lots of scams out there.

There's some dangers with this too, like with everything. But I guess if someone actually did this successfully, in time they would have a few people to do this with that are honest and they would do this with/for them on a continuous basis, and there would be pretty much no risk.