Not showing links in "SEO - Link building"

[Skorupak]

Recently I started looking around in "SEO - Link building" section.

I'm interested in offers, but can't understand one thing. A lot of users in their threads mention, that they do not provide links to websites, where links are placed. Usually they say something like this:

"To ensure the safety of the network, we do not provide URL's."

But almost in the same line they say:

"All the link will show up in your Search Console/Webmaster Tools"

I can't get it. Why after purchase, buyer can't get a URL, where links was placed? Because anyway buyer can find these URL's in Webmaster Tools. Can someone explain this for me? Thank you.

 

[cyrus451]

Ok, look. Think about this. And im with you on 'we wont send urls' but they expect you to drop 100-500$ on links. What would stop a google employee from buying a service on this forum? Nothing, im sure they do. When they do, and a link report is sent with the urls they placed your links on google can just go ban all those domains. If they dont send you a link report they are trying to keep there pbn network safe from ban.

 

[cyrus451]

links that get indexed show up in google webmaster tools so that is what he is saying, you can see the urls once the links you bought through that service get indexed but he's not sending you a list of the urls he put your links on. The sites can still be banned by google, it may just take longer.

 

[Deleted member 923340]

Ok, look. Think about this. And im with you on 'we wont send urls' but they expect you to drop 100-500$ on links. What would stop a google employee from buying a service on this forum? Nothing, im sure they do. When they do, and a link report is sent with the urls they placed your links on google can just go ban all those domains. If they dont send you a link report they are trying to keep there pbn network safe from ban.

LOL. Joke of the day. Im sure, "the google employee reading this", laughing his ass off.
Are you implying a Google employee is incapable of figuring out the links coming to his site, until they appear in search console? They are not window cleaners of Google. If they are coming here against PBN services (some anti-spam team), they'll have the resources.

Edit: @OP, it is because competitors of PBN services can report the sites to google as PBN networks.

 

[cyrus451]

No, im answering his question. The reason they wont send him a link report is to 'TRY' and keep there pbn safe. Obviously google can find pbn,s they do all the time. Im saying how easy would it be for a google employee to buy a service here, see where the links are placed and ban the domain?

 

[edie]

PBN are a no-no for Google and so the seller wants to hide their footprints as much as possible. But i think one should be given links where their pbn link is live after buying

 

[Skorupak]

Edit: @OP, it is because competitors of PBN services can report the sites to google as PBN networks.

Thank you for answer. This seems logical.

 

[Zbigniew]

Two reasons:

1.) It's to protect the PBN. As showing the URL to a lot of people risk the PBN of being exposed.
2.) They are not giving you what you bought. They offer 10 links, but give you less.

Now days I'm staying away from those services because of reason number 2. I've seen it myself and I've heard others talking about it. It's just not worth the gamble.

 

[Epicster]

LOL. Joke of the day. Im sure, "the google employee reading this", laughing his ass off.
Are you implying a Google employee is incapable of figuring out the links coming to his site, until they appear in search console? They are not window cleaners of Google. If they are coming here against PBN services (some anti-spam team), they'll have the resources.

Edit: @OP, it is because competitors of PBN services can report the sites to google as PBN networks.

To be honest, it really doesn't make any sense

- How can someone report your sites to google? The answer is no way until its against copyrights or such similar thing.
- Most of the PBN sellers starts reselling each other links. It happened to me thats why i am saying.
- " Its to protect the network " Its all crap. What if your competitors buys the service from you and finds the links in webmasters? There is no way you can hide from it.

PBN are a no-no for Google and so the seller wants to hide their footprints as much as possible. But i think one should be given links where their pbn link is live after buying

Just like google doesn't own google webmasters?

 

[edie]

it does own google master yes. I think mostly it is not to be seen what their urls are until you are serious buyer

 

[MSRP]

That how the way they make money online. LOL
Charge you with 5 links price, then place your url on 1 site.

Build your own PBN. Time and cost consuming but it worth every penny.

 

[seocrab]

There could be several reasons for a seller not wanting to provide a list of created links.

Ultimately, if you want a list of all links, choose a seller who will provide that service to you.

 

[PropertyGrow]

Not all providers are trying to trick you. I also provide 20% of reports only, but I build 100% of links. If the client really wants to see proof, I am ready to provide it.

It is done to decrease chances of deindexation. Also some competitors or Google team could buy a service and get all of the blogs deindexed. Or competitor could blast spam links at the network. Or competitor could disavow links in the WMT, which might or might not lead to devaluing of your network.

You would be surprised how sketchy some people are outthere. So it only makes sense to try to protect the networks.

 

[seocrab]

Not all providers are trying to trick you. I also provide 20% of reports only, but I build 100% of links. If the client really wants to see proof, I am ready to provide it.

It is done to decrease chances of deindexation. Also some competitors or Google team could buy a service and get all of the blogs deindexed. Or competitor could blast spam links at the network. Or competitor could disavow links in the WMT, which might or might not lead to devaluing of your network.

You would be surprised how sketchy some people are outthere. So it only makes sense to try to protect the networks.

That's an excellent answer.

 

[Stavro]

- How can someone report your sites to google? The answer is no way until its against copyrights or such similar thing.

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/paidlinks

 

[Epicster]

Not all providers are trying to trick you. I also provide 20% of reports only, but I build 100% of links. If the client really wants to see proof, I am ready to provide it.

It is done to decrease chances of deindexation. Also some competitors or Google team could buy a service and get all of the blogs deindexed. Or competitor could blast spam links at the network. Or competitor could disavow links in the WMT, which might or might not lead to devaluing of your network.

You would be surprised how sketchy some people are outthere. So it only makes sense to try to protect the networks.

LOL thats the point, there is no way you can hide your network. It doesn;t matter if sellers provide reports or not they will find out thru webmasters easily.

 

[Skorupak]

LOL thats the point, there is no way you can hide your network. It doesn;t matter if sellers provide reports or not they will find out thru webmasters easily.

True! That's what I'm talking about.

So It's the best to buy from sellers who provide/show links?

 

[Epicster]

True! That's what I'm talking about.

So It's the best to buy from sellers who provide/show links?

Sooner or later the pbn will be caught. No network is safe no matter what you do. Not showing reports doesn't make any sense to me. I have brought over 100 packages so far from marketplace and found out that most of the pbn networks are just a resell of the others. Believe it or not but it's true.

 

[Skorupak]

I have brought over 100 packages so far from marketplace and found out that most of the pbn networks are just a resell of the others. Believe it or not but it's true.

Damn. I was really interested in PBN. If someone know really good network, please send me PM.

 

[Hetneo]

It is done to decrease chances of deindexation. Also some competitors or Google team could buy a service and get all of the blogs deindexed. Or competitor could blast spam links at the network. Or competitor could disavow links in the WMT, which might or might not lead to devaluing of your network.

^ @PropertyGrow on point here and the cost of replacing deindexed websites is far too high.