EasternEuropean
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- Feb 11, 2018
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I am relatively new to SEO and it took me some time to understand how things work around here. There are so many types of people - people that make tons of money and people that make no money. There are so many types of SEO strategies - from low quality Public PBN up to 100$-1000$ auctioned domains and 100$-1000$ guest posting. This is a vast field with people on all different levels. From what I understood so far, there appears to be these 4 levels:
1) Low level (no SEO required) - The crowd that got here thanks to "make money fast online while working from home and doing nothing" gurus and their courses. These are people that are not that interested in learning SEO and are in search of an easy "technique". They might do porn spam, they might buy 50$ websites, buy some 50$ SEO service on them and end up not knowing why they are not making any money. Some of these people might end up making big money through some "technique" if they are somehow smart and put some effort, but most do not.
2) Medium level (low level SEO quality, public PBN, etc.) - People that do 1 page affiliate websites with 1000 words of content and bombard it with commercials. They might buy some Public PBN SEO service. Risk is not a problem cause they did not invest too much time or effort into the website and can easily create another one.
Some of these people are newbs that are doing this cause they can not create an authority website that provides value. But other people doing this have become good at it and understood that you need to scale. So they can make a lot of money.
3) Medium level (medium level SEO quality required) - People that have a real, legit and long term websites. They need their SEO to be a little more whitehat because they have invested quality work in them and don't want to re-build them. These kind of people use mainly guest posting and web 2.0. The quality and price of their links can vary a lot. For example a guest post price can vary between 10$ and 100$, depending on weather it's on a website created mainly for links or if it's on a more quality website. Besides buying quality guest post, they might also try to do manual blogger outreach.
From what I understand a Public PBN is too risky and too low quality for such websites. A private PBN is too expensive for such websites. So what they are left with is buying guest post and building web 2.0s, the quality of which depends on their needs and budget.
4) High level (top SEO quality required) - Big shots fighting in highly competitive areas. There are areas out there where millions are made. In highly competitive areas, they need Private PBN built on 100$-1000$ auctioned domains, they might need 100$-500$ guest posting, etc. For them, it is worth it building a private PBN even though costs might get up to 50.000$ cause they are making way more money and for them, it's worth every penny.
---People outside the ladder---
1) SEO Companies - they are outside the ladder. They generally rank local projects for much more than it costs. Such projects are easy to medium difficulty and these companies take a lot more money than they should for such projects. But, even though they are highly inefficient, what they do is in a way fare. Web design and local SEO will always be a local thing. Normal small business owners want to simply go to their local web design/seo agency, meet somebody in person and have that somebody take care of everything from that point on.
2) People providing low level SEO services: I do not understand too well what is up with them. There are so many people providing content writing for 5$, PBN links for 5$, etc. I know these people also scale what they do, so they might be making some decent money. I still do not understand too well what is up with them and why they are doing it.
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This is what I understood so far about the BHW social ladder. Is this understanding of mine accurate ? What do older members have to say about this ? Can others provide a similar description such mine, but more accurate ? What is your opinion on this subject ?
1) Low level (no SEO required) - The crowd that got here thanks to "make money fast online while working from home and doing nothing" gurus and their courses. These are people that are not that interested in learning SEO and are in search of an easy "technique". They might do porn spam, they might buy 50$ websites, buy some 50$ SEO service on them and end up not knowing why they are not making any money. Some of these people might end up making big money through some "technique" if they are somehow smart and put some effort, but most do not.
2) Medium level (low level SEO quality, public PBN, etc.) - People that do 1 page affiliate websites with 1000 words of content and bombard it with commercials. They might buy some Public PBN SEO service. Risk is not a problem cause they did not invest too much time or effort into the website and can easily create another one.
Some of these people are newbs that are doing this cause they can not create an authority website that provides value. But other people doing this have become good at it and understood that you need to scale. So they can make a lot of money.
3) Medium level (medium level SEO quality required) - People that have a real, legit and long term websites. They need their SEO to be a little more whitehat because they have invested quality work in them and don't want to re-build them. These kind of people use mainly guest posting and web 2.0. The quality and price of their links can vary a lot. For example a guest post price can vary between 10$ and 100$, depending on weather it's on a website created mainly for links or if it's on a more quality website. Besides buying quality guest post, they might also try to do manual blogger outreach.
From what I understand a Public PBN is too risky and too low quality for such websites. A private PBN is too expensive for such websites. So what they are left with is buying guest post and building web 2.0s, the quality of which depends on their needs and budget.
4) High level (top SEO quality required) - Big shots fighting in highly competitive areas. There are areas out there where millions are made. In highly competitive areas, they need Private PBN built on 100$-1000$ auctioned domains, they might need 100$-500$ guest posting, etc. For them, it is worth it building a private PBN even though costs might get up to 50.000$ cause they are making way more money and for them, it's worth every penny.
---People outside the ladder---
1) SEO Companies - they are outside the ladder. They generally rank local projects for much more than it costs. Such projects are easy to medium difficulty and these companies take a lot more money than they should for such projects. But, even though they are highly inefficient, what they do is in a way fare. Web design and local SEO will always be a local thing. Normal small business owners want to simply go to their local web design/seo agency, meet somebody in person and have that somebody take care of everything from that point on.
2) People providing low level SEO services: I do not understand too well what is up with them. There are so many people providing content writing for 5$, PBN links for 5$, etc. I know these people also scale what they do, so they might be making some decent money. I still do not understand too well what is up with them and why they are doing it.
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This is what I understood so far about the BHW social ladder. Is this understanding of mine accurate ? What do older members have to say about this ? Can others provide a similar description such mine, but more accurate ? What is your opinion on this subject ?
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