Jarvee destroys engagement?

[AKRS]

I recently got Jarvee and the moment I started using it the performance of my posts seems to have basically halved.

Before Jarvee a typical post for my 10k account would get:

Reach: 8000+
(45% of accounts reached were not following me at the time)
Impressions: 10k
Likes 1.5k

Now I'm using Jarvee my stats for a typical post are:

Reach: 3,500
(5-9% of accounts reached were not following me at the time)
Impressions: 4-5k
Likes: 700

It seems like instagram doesn't show your content to any new accounts, only to your current followers. Before, nearly 50% of my reach was to new people, not already following me, which means double for all my stats and much better growth.

Has anyone else experienced this?

And will things go back to normal if I stop using Jarvee, or has it wrecked my account?

Thanks.

 

[AquaticGamer]

Botting in general ruins your account you can try to stop botting for awhile and see if anything happens. Other than that there's nothing else you can do.

 

[k3ygen]

Yep, it's a pain.
But it seems like we need to stop botting on serious accounts.
Noticed it to and some people here are already talking about the next update that will destroy botters.

 

[kantaenos]

I am not sure, but I think I have noticed this. One thing I know for a fact is that GMT never gave me the: "you are doing this too much wait a few minutes" error.
Jarvee ALWAYS makes that error come up. I feel like you get further and further down the algo's 'fuck you' list if you keep triggering it.

 

[k3ygen]

Hmm thats awkward what are your GMT settings? What are your Jarvee settings?
I think I know the technical reason why Jarvee sucks sometimes, but I think I should now share it here in public.

 

[k3ygen]

I've heard that there are quite good ones that do not make such mistakes.

Which ones?

 

[colorme]

Guys, it's not Jarvee, or GMT, or Followliker or whatever but you're using. It's you. It's your settings.
If your settings don't look and act human, IG will flag them.

I handle manual and botted accounts for real people and businesses. Never had a problem, other than a drop in engagement. But that was caused by IG's algorithm, because it did the same to the manual accounts (different IPs and devices).

Stop for a few days, slow the F down, and don't push it.

 

[k3ygen]

I handle manual and botted accounts for real people and businesses. Never had a problem, other than a drop in engagement. But that was caused by IG's algorithm, because it did the same to the manual accounts (different IPs and devices).

Stop for a few days, slow the F down, and don't push it.

Please share your settings for every tool. I bet all my accounts are slower than yours. But you must do something right that I oversee.

 

[colorme]

Please share your settings for every tool. I bet all my accounts are slower than yours. But you must do something right that I oversee.

Don't have your account(s) do the same things every single day, at the same exact hour. Example: Monday-Wed follow from 9am-10am with 10-20 min delays. Wait 1 hour (lunch), like from 1pm-2pm, 5-15 min delays. DM or unfollow from 4-6 with 10-20 min delays.

Next week, switch it up, Mon-Wed 8am-9am unfollow, 1pm-3pm follow, 5pm-7pm like

and so on. Have your accounts rest for 2 days every week, change the rest days every week, or every other week.

 

[Kyle Martinez]

Yep, it's a pain.
But it seems like we need to stop botting on serious accounts.
Noticed it to and some people here are already talking about the next update that will destroy botters.

how does botting destroy accounts? can you go into detail? thanks

 

[k3ygen]

I already do:
8h sleep
1h lunch
2d weekend
21min random start&stop delays
NightMode with 30min random start-stop delay

What I will do:
Match all the times according to each proxies timezone.

Mon-Wed 8am-9am unfollow, 1pm-3pm follow, 5pm-7pm like

This one after another strategy seems to be more obvious/spammy than random actions within a predefined time natural looking time frame.

 

[k3ygen]

how does botting destroy accounts? can you go into detail? thanks

The bots don't communicate the same way with IG as the real IG app does.
The apps don't use or can't decrypt or simply ignore certain trackers etc.
So the bots are communicating in a non generic fashion.

But there are some secret tweaks I did to improve the cloak.
And it is working, no EV,PV,Action or Temporary Blocks since weeks
Can't share them public. I fear that IG will fix it.

 

[Kyle Martinez]

The bots don't communicate the same way with IG as the real IG app does.
The apps don't use or can't decrypt or simply ignore certain trackers etc.
So the bots are communicating in a non generic fashion.

But there are some secret tweaks I did to improve the cloak.
And it is working, no EV,PV,Action or Temporary Blocks since weeks
Can't share them public. I fear that IG will fix it.

i feel you bro! How much would you charge to market my music on instagram?

 

[AKRS]

Guys, it's not Jarvee, or GMT, or Followliker or whatever but you're using. It's you. It's your settings.
If your settings don't look and act human, IG will flag them.

I handle manual and botted accounts for real people and businesses. Never had a problem, other than a drop in engagement. But that was caused by IG's algorithm, because it did the same to the manual accounts (different IPs and devices).

Stop for a few days, slow the F down, and don't push it.

Thanks for your reply.

I found this not to be the case in my situation.

The moment I used Jarvee, basically the moment I signed in with it to my insta account, the engagement suffered in the way I described.

It was nothing to do with activity, and as I am very cautious and follow a proper 'warm up' process, I had started on 50 total actions spread across the day only, which is extremely modest and would not have triggered any alarm due to frequency.

I think it must be to do with how the bot operates under the hood, which is triggering something for IG to flag the account for choking.

Someone with better technical understanding than myself might be able to confirm this.

Thanks

 

[kantaenos]

Thanks for your reply.

I found this not to be the case in my situation.

The moment I used Jarvee, basically the moment I signed in with it to my insta account, the engagement suffered in the way I described.

It was nothing to do with activity, and as I am very cautious and follow a proper 'warm up' process, I had started on 50 total actions spread across the day only, which is extremely modest and would not have triggered any alarm due to frequency.

I think it must be to do with how the bot operates under the hood, which is triggering something for IG to flag the account for choking.

Someone with better technical understanding than myself might be able to confirm this.

Thanks

I agree. I have done crazy settings but back in the day I would immediately get issues with jarvee and I had conservative setttings. I didn't complain because IG would never block me. Now here I am with shit engagement because I ignored it and tripled my actions for weeks lmao.

Also, I think resting 2+ days and being so random daily is unnecessary. The algo isn't THAT smart. There are companies with IG marketers on it all day. with so much rest time you might as well do it manually because your amount of actions will be so low.

 

[MisterF]

Don't have your account(s) do the same things every single day, at the same exact hour. Example: Monday-Wed follow from 9am-10am with 10-20 min delays. Wait 1 hour (lunch), like from 1pm-2pm, 5-15 min delays. DM or unfollow from 4-6 with 10-20 min delays.

Next week, switch it up, Mon-Wed 8am-9am unfollow, 1pm-3pm follow, 5pm-7pm like

and so on. Have your accounts rest for 2 days every week, change the rest days every week, or every other week.

This is what I used to say to people about backlinking, don't create a pattern.

Nothing worse than a sloppy VA working on the same site, on the same time, same day each week for 30 minutes.

 

[Deleted member 708208]

Guys who seriously bot a lot of times get a custom setup for footprint reasons among others.

 

[Aveil]

Is there a way to recover the reach of an account after botting?

 

[Kyle Martinez]

Ive seen plenty of youtube accounts and facebook accounts still reach a crap ton of people even after botting.....

 

[siuhin]

Hi I have not had any engagement decrease at all with botting with Jarvee. My 13K account still sits at 30% engagement. I bot from 12am to whatever time it takes for the bot to finish my tasks. My tasks are about 1500 actions per day. Then it stops and resets again at 12. That is my "sleep time", it could be maybe just 5 hours. I have never been banned or action blocked on any of my accounts because of Jarvee.