I'm Banned! How Do I Get Back In??

[haydenm92]

ok, i've been searching everywhere on the forum for this, and i think i actually found an answer a long time ago, but i can't seem to dig it up again.

i've been banned from a network because i didn't cover my tracks. now i'm wondering how to get back in. i know i need to come back appearing to be a "different" person, but i'm not completely sure how to go about doing this. i've heard you can get a DBA and tie a EIN to it and that is all you have to do.. have i been misinformed?

if anyone else has gone through this situation and has gotten back into a network successfully, i would love to know their method.

thanks for the help!

 

[Total Noob]

Something to do with a LLC

 

[DrJekyll]

dba/ein should do the trick, be sure to not use ANY previous info like address, paypal, email, ip, etc.

 

[killzone]

Set up a DBA or an LLC and then apply for an EIN with the IRS. This way the payment is issued to the company name and you have a different tax ID number and the network will never know that you are the same person.

 

[haydenm92]

yea, i've been talking to people, and they said an LLC, then get an EIN for that LLC. but i've also seen people say you can get a DBA and then get an EIN for that DBA. is a LLC required to get a DBA?

ha, sorry if that was all confusing.

 

[haydenm92]

ok, and, from my understanding, DBA's are much cheaper than LLC's so i would much rather take the DBA route. i'm still not sure how i'm going to cover the address, phone number, name issue. any suggestions for that?

 

[proexploit]

Don't do either, just go to the government website and apply for an EIN as a sole proprietor. Then you don't have to do any LLC registration and it's free.

 

[Silencer]

Don't think it's easy.

See my thread:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...network-now-theyre-ratting-me-out-others.html

 

[haydenm92]

Don't think it's easy.

See my thread:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...network-now-theyre-ratting-me-out-others.html

The solution hasn't even been provided on your thread. And I was just about ready to ask if i could just apply for a EIN as as a sole proprietor and if that would do the trick. I can probably figure out the name, address, phone number issues.

 

[killzone]

You can either create and LLC and get an EIN for that LLC. However this is the longer version. A DBA is all you need to apply for an EIN. You can search for your local Country Clerks Office and download their DBA forms. Once you have that filed with them you can apply for an EIN with the IRS. (Just google apply for EIN)

 

[BigHustlah]

One step above proexploit's idea, is the one you were actually searching for, by a good buddy of mine who was banned here. He was talking about 1st setting up a mailbox, going to the bank with a family member, friend, etc and setting up a partnership. You draw up a basic partnership agreement, then they open an acct for you.

Once you have that partnership set up, go and get a new EIN.

New address (mailbox)
New name (partnership)
new EIN#
use a fresh ip, get a new phone # (prepaid or whatever)

enjoy your new accts.

 

[haydenm92]

You can either create and LLC and get an EIN for that LLC. However this is the longer version. A DBA is all you need to apply for an EIN. You can search for your local Country Clerks Office and download their DBA forms. Once you have that filed with them you can apply for an EIN with the IRS. (Just google apply for EIN)

And I'm assuming I would just file for a DBA as a sole proprietor if I'm working alone?? Just wanna make sure. Thanks!

 

[killzone]

Yes that is correct.

DBA just means that you can legally do business in your county under an assumed name. You use that name on the application and the EIN that you link to it.

And I'm assuming I would just file for a DBA as a sole proprietor if I'm working alone?? Just wanna make sure. Thanks!

 

[haydenm92]

Yes that is correct.

DBA just means that you can legally do business in your county under an assumed name. You use that name on the application and the EIN that you link to it.

Haha, so pretend my name was Jon Smith.. if I got a DBA I could do business under the assumed name of Jim Carey??

It asks for the full name on the application, so I need to be able to put something there other than my real name, so would a fake person's name work as my DBA??

Thanks for all the help guys!

 

[haydenm92]

Well we'll see how all this goes. There were a few different views in this thread. This is what i'm going to do

1. Register a DBA
2. Apply for a EIN with the registered DBA
3. Apply at affiliate network

I'm going to use fake details for the personal name, address, ect, but I'll use my DBA for the company name and have them send payment to my company name. Hopefully that is how I'm supposed to be doing it.

 

[killzone]

Haha, so pretend my name was Jon Smith.. if I got a DBA I could do business under the assumed name of Jim Carey??

It asks for the full name on the application, so I need to be able to put something there other than my real name, so would a fake person's name work as my DBA??

Thanks for all the help guys!

No that would be illegal. It means you can assume a business name like Lightspeed Marketing and legally do business under that name.

Your app would get denied if you tried to file a DBA with the business name as "Jim Carey."

You can need to use your real info. The DBA just shields your real name address, etc because it allows you to assume a name to cover your business.

 

[Warbucks]

ok, and, from my understanding, DBA's are much cheaper than LLC's so i would much rather take the DBA route. i'm still not sure how i'm going to cover the address, phone number, name issue. any suggestions for that?

(All this assumes you're in the US)

Address: http://www.theupsstore.com/

Phone: http://www.skype.com/ or voice.google.com

Name: DBA or LLC

The real question is whether or not CPA Nets will take PO Boxes. If they do, I've got four post offices within a five mile radius of where I live.

 

[haydenm92]

(All this assumes you're in the US)

Address: http://www.theupsstore.com/

Phone: http://www.skype.com/ or voice.google.com

Name: DBA or LLC

The real question is whether or not CPA Nets will take PO Boxes. If they do, I've got four post offices within a five mile radius of where I live.

I know to put my DBA or LLC name in the company name spot. But there is a field for the first and last name. What do I enter there. Some fake name? Or do I put my DBA or LLC name in the first and last name spot too?? That seems odd.

 

[killzone]

I know to put my DBA or LLC name in the company name spot. But there is a field for the first and last name. What do I enter there. Some fake name? Or do I put my DBA or LLC name in the first and last name spot too?? That seems odd.

I assuming your talking about the CPA Application? If not do NOT put a fake name on any LLC filing forms lol but yea on the application but some bogus name and call them the VP and just call as them. The checks go out to the company name so it doesnt matter.

 

[haydenm92]

I assuming your talking about the CPA Application? If not do NOT put a fake name on any LLC filing forms lol but yea on the application but some bogus name and call them the VP and just call as them. The checks go out to the company name so it doesnt matter.

Thank you killzone! That is where I was getting hung up.