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Dude, @SensualTyrannosaurusIt's impressive that you've pushed this to nine pages and three days of pure misinformation and a complete lack of knowledge. You're acting like Ripple is rising because you said it would, instead of you just riding the hype like tens of thousands of others who aren't boasting about how great they are.

That's what I was trying to say - he's mistaking the price going up because it's a bubble with intelligence and ability.

I guess when it pops and starts falling he'll keep holding until it's worth near to zero - then he'll be saying he was still right, it's the fault of the doomsayers, that's what caused it to drop.

There's an old saying in investing that stocks rise by taking the stairs, but they come down in the elevator.

These cryptos went up in an express elevator, they'll come down like a V2 rocket bomb.
 
Dude, @SensualTyrannosaurus is a seasoned combat veteran and an industrial machinist by trade, you can't be serious with the "say it to my face and not online and see what happens" line...

It's impressive that you've pushed this to nine pages and three days of pure misinformation and a complete lack of knowledge. You're acting like Ripple is rising because you said it would, instead of you just riding the hype like tens of thousands of others who aren't boasting about how great they are.

Cool im into martial arts myself and have been a second lieutenant in my home countries air force..so?

Where is the misinformation, Sherbert? did i not say ripple will go up when it was $1? is it not almost at $2? are you gonna keep hating or are you gonna open your eyes ? :D
 
Cool im into martial arts myself and have been a second lieutenant in my home countries air force..so?

Where is the misinformation, Sherbert? did i not say ripple will go up when it was $1? is it not almost at $2? are you gonna keep hating or are you gonna open your eyes ? :D

Blinkers firmly on
 
Despite my name I have no clue about cryptocurrency in general, I just ride a wave, when I see it.
Made a bucket-load of money in the past 2-3 months.

Let's see how long this ride will last.
 
Anyway for those of you still waiting to get in, we missed the dip at 1.52 which formed a support level on the hourly chart. I'll try to catch a dip later and if i do ill update here so others can get in...
 
I dont understand why every post here has to be "idiot " stupid or w/e... ya'll are brave behind your cute laptops and keyboards..come say it to my face ill show u something cool :) so anyway stop with the name calling it doesnt make u look tough or anything.
We're talking feats of intelligence, not strength. I've already lived a life of strength, but I'm not posting my combat action ribbon or any of my 12 campaign ribbons, due to this being a thread on cryptocurrency and not dick measuring.

I would invest on ripple vs amazon because im doing short-term plays, and ripple almost tripled in a few days, while amazon traded for around $700 at the begning of the year, and now its at around $1100... did it go up? sure... did it double, triple or soon to be quadruple? HELL NO. so again it depends on which moves you're making like i told the other guy.
At what point are you buying and selling ripple? What was your entry? If you say $0.23, that's not short term. Its been a couple weeks since then.

BTW its cute and all that you "chose" amazon after it went up %1000 of percents. but a lot of ppl who thought like you do picked tweeter and lost 50% of their money... so far our ripple choice seems to be good so...
How is this different than your "Sears" option? At least I am giving two options of success. One of the two options will be around for a long time. And it will overtake the world. Here's a hint, it's not the coin.
 
We're talking feats of intelligence, not strength. I've already lived a life of strength, but I'm not posting my combat action ribbon or any of my 12 campaign ribbons, due to this being a thread on cryptocurrency and not dick measuring.


At what point are you buying and selling ripple? What was your entry? If you say $0.23, that's not short term. Its been a couple weeks since then.


How is this different than your "Sears" option? At least I am giving two options of success. One of the two options will be around for a long time. And it will overtake the world. Here's a hint, it's not the coin.

OK mate im not here to argue if you're not a believer don't buy :)
And 2 weeks is short term in terms of investing. what did amazons stock did in 2 weeks? up 5%-%10?
I wish i was in at 0.23, sadly im in at 0.74-5.

Oh and to your exit question, ill sell after the coinbase news, probably jan 8th... its not a price target because i didnt get in based on tech analysis, i got in based on speculation.

EDIT: idk if ppl here are taking advice from these posts so i wanna be accurate, i will sell after the coinbase thing because there will be a dip, but ill def get in at that tip instantly because i do believe in ripple as a long term hold.
 
Ripple is going to conquer the future, no doubt about it. their only competitor (imo) is IOTA but that's only if the developers can get it right. problem with IOTA is that the developers mess up with all the network congestion issues and that was huge PR issue for them. I assume they have bright future because they are targeting m2m transactions and that alone can inflate the price considering they don't need many userbase to buy the coins.

that being said, if you are looking for huge gains, you are always better off with smaller coins. Ripple made huge gains in the past one month but I doubt they can go on like this forever. I made a lot of money from TRX but i have sold all of my coins there after I made 20x of my investment. There are a lot of new altcoins to look at and they always have more room to grow as compared to the big guys such as Ripple or ETH.

Personally i'm looking forward to INS and SingularityNet. they can make huge gains within the next 3 months.

As for someone who said "you'll be down 90% from where you are now if you don't convert your theoretical gains into real money." <- this is definitely true. personally my investment strategy always involve converting 25% of my ROI back to fiat once I make 7-10x gains from my investment in small altcoins and ICOs or when I make 3x gains from my investments in top 10 coins.

Why is it true? simple. because most exchanges don't have enough liquidity when it comes to fiat. Personally I feel crypto investment is a bubble and it will crash sooner or later but this is EXACTLY WHY i jumped in. because it's a bubble. if it's a safe investment, i wouldnt bother. what's the point, really? 15-20% a year? for what
 
You don`t need to be rocket science mastermind or cryptocurrency expert to understand that
cryptocurrency with 38,739,144,847 Circulating Supply never gonna go skyrocket...

Yes price rises because of market cap raised to $71,157,223,429 even if market cap will
get to bitcoins cap the price will gonna be 3-4 dollars per coin... So to rise this coin to
$100 or more it is just not possible...

As I said I'm not pro in Crypto, but I`m thinking it is best to invest in small Circularity Coins.
Let take some examples.


Go in here https://coinmarketcap.com and click 2 times on Circulating Supply.
You will get all coins that have smallest amount of circularity. With this you can see that they have bigger price.
none of them have 0.23 price... So my suggestions, we need to buy all cheapest coins.
if you don`t have lot of money try to analyze them.


1) What system they are using?
2) What is developers plan, where they are planning to use them?
3) Where we can buy them?
4) Or it is easy to buy them?
5) Or they are minable and how hard is to mine them?


And another info like, or someone is planning to invest in them, like big companies.

So we have this cryptos with not so big price.

ZCoin
Market Cap: $292,356,340
Circulating Supply: 3,726,473
Price:
$78.45

Blocknet
Market Cap: $161,678,328
Circulating Supply: 4,941,028
Price:
$32.72

Decred
Market Cap: $557,661,843
Circulating Supply: 6,420,201
Price:
$86.86

Factom
Market Cap: $291,099,085
Circulating Supply: 8,745,102
Price:
$86.86

Gas
Market Cap: $244,540,878
Circulating Supply: 9,137,582
Price:
$26.76

Augur
Market Cap: $726,979,000
Circulating Supply: 11,000,000
Price:
$66.09

Monaco
Market Cap: $204,293,341
Circulating Supply: 12,135,541
Price:
$16.83

After this Bitcoin goes. So this is your option on trying to solve where is best to invest.

But let's do some small counting. Monaco Vs IOTA

Monaco
Market Cap: $204,293,341
Circulating Supply: 12,135,541

Price: $16.83


Vs

IOTA
Market Cap: $8,792,738,302
Circulating Supply: 2,779,530,283

Price: $3.38



$8,792,738,302 : $204,293,341 = 43

43 x $16.83 = $723.69

So this means that if all people now sold all IOTA`s and invested all their money to Monaco
it price rised to $723.69

But let's do some more small counting. Monaco Vs Bitcoin

Monaco
Market Cap: $204,293,341
Circulating Supply: 12,135,541
Price:
$16.83


Vs

Bitcoin

Market Cap: $228,714,999,881
Circulating Supply: 16,760,712
Price: $13,645.90

$228,714,999,881 : $204,293,341 = 1119

1119 x $16.83 = $18 832.77


So this means that if all people now sold all Bitcoin`s and invested all their money to Monaco
it price rized to $18 832.77

So I'm thinking that all coins witch is cheapest and have low circulation have biggest potencial.
But this is only my opinion, everything can change any day. Example: Crypto market can rize
50 times so whit this all coin net worth can rize 50 times with this price rized as well.
 
"if it's a safe investment, i wouldnt bother. what's the point, really?"

Seriously? If you could make just 15% per year safely from good quality stocks you wouldn't bother?

Work out what that is compounded over even just 20 years and that's not even including the dividends.

Short term "trading" is speculating, and you need to be right every time - get it badly wrong once and you're wiped out.

That's why people trying forex, etc lose their shirts, especially if they're working on margin.

And "technical analysis" is a load of guff.
 
Ripple is going to conquer the future, no doubt about it. their only competitor (imo) is IOTA but that's only if the developers can get it right. problem with IOTA is that the developers mess up with all the network congestion issues and that was huge PR issue for them. I assume they have bright future because they are targeting m2m transactions and that alone can inflate the price considering they don't need many userbase to buy the coins.

that being said, if you are looking for huge gains, you are always better off with smaller coins. Ripple made huge gains in the past one month but I doubt they can go on like this forever. I made a lot of money from TRX but i have sold all of my coins there after I made 20x of my investment. There are a lot of new altcoins to look at and they always have more room to grow as compared to the big guys such as Ripple or ETH.

Personally i'm looking forward to INS and SingularityNet. they can make huge gains within the next 3 months.

As for someone who said "you'll be down 90% from where you are now if you don't convert your theoretical gains into real money." <- this is definitely true. personally my investment strategy always involve converting 25% of my ROI back to fiat once I make 7-10x gains from my investment in small altcoins and ICOs or when I make 3x gains from my investments in top 10 coins.

Why is it true? simple. because most exchanges don't have enough liquidity when it comes to fiat. Personally I feel crypto investment is a bubble and it will crash sooner or later but this is EXACTLY WHY i jumped in. because it's a bubble. if it's a safe investment, i wouldnt bother. what's the point, really? 15-20% a year? for what

100% with you. I dont have enough money to make sense of %15-20 a year.... 50-100K imo is not for small plays like that.
If you're a millionaire already, thats a different story but when we have 'baby money' thats the time to take risks IMO
 
OK mate im not here to argue if you're not a believer don't buy :)
And 2 weeks is short term in terms of investing. what did amazons stock did in 2 weeks? up 5%-%10?
I wish i was in at 0.23, sadly im in at 0.74-5.

Oh and to your exit question, ill sell after the coinbase news, probably jan 8th... its not a price target because i didnt get in based on tech analysis, i got in based on speculation.

EDIT: idk if ppl here are taking advice from these posts so i wanna be accurate, i will sell after the coinbase thing because there will be a dip, but ill def get in at that tip instantly because i do believe in ripple as a long term hold.


So when does this train ride end? If they don't get into coinbase then dump and run or hold out?

Actually just saw this,,, http://www.businessinsider.com/ripple-briefly-overtakes-ethereum-as-the-no-2-crypto-2017-12
 
It is even more easier to count with this cryptocurrency.

Let's pretend tomorrow everybody will gonna sell all their Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Dash and then buy Ripple.

$245,017,421,058 + $73,007,862,975 + $42,427,889,654 + $13,314,570,373 + $8,863,306,428 = 382,631,050,488

382,631,050,488 : 38,739,144,847 = $9,80

So you need to understand that this is basically not possible them to rise even to 10 dollars...

Don't believe my? Go and count Ripple

Market Cap: $71,157,223,429 : Circulating Supply: 38,739,144,847 = $1.83 Same amount that it costs now.
 
Well said, the shear amount of circulating supply will never allow it to get over $10 UNLESS market caps start increasing 10x fold.
 
Well said, the shear amount of circulating supply will never allow it to get over $10 UNLESS market caps start increasing 10x fold.

This is what happens when people go hyped like my on IOTA, but later I started to count after few days... 2 most common factors of price is:

1) Money that people trowed in that crypto.

and

2) Circulation of crypto.

Amazon net worth: $100,000,000,000
Bitcoin net worth: $245,017,421,058

Even if Amazon throwed all money to Ripple it raized only to 3 dollars. :D
 
@r3L4x I really like your math you have done there, but what do you think which is the next cryptocurrency skyrocketing? are you thinking about Monaco
 
It is even more easier to count with this cryptocurrency.

Let's pretend tomorrow everybody will gonna sell all their Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Dash and then buy Ripple.

$245,017,421,058 + $73,007,862,975 + $42,427,889,654 + $13,314,570,373 + $8,863,306,428 = 382,631,050,488

382,631,050,488 : 38,739,144,847 = $9,80

So you need to understand that this is basically not possible them to rise even to 10 dollars...

Don't believe my? Go and count Ripple

Market Cap: $71,157,223,429 : Circulating Supply: 38,739,144,847 = $1.83 Same amount that it costs now.

Whilst I am anti-crypto in the sense that it's clearly a bubble, you have a flaw in your calculations IMHO in so much as you assume that the total market cap will remain static.
 
I’ve been asked about Bitcoin a lot lately. I haven’t written anything about it because I find myself in an uncomfortable place in agreeing with the mainstream media: It’s a bubble. Bitcoin started out as what I’d call “millennial gold” – the young (digital) generation looked at it as their gold substitute.

Bitcoin is really two things: a blockchain technology and a (perceived) currency. The blockchain element of Bitcoin may have enormous future applications: It may be used for electronic contracts, voting, money transfers – and the list goes on. But there is a very important misconception about Bitcoin: ownership of Bitcoin doesn’t give you ownership of the technology. I, without owning a single bitcoin, own as much Bitcoin technology as someone who owns a million bitcoins; that is, exactly none. It’s just like when you have $1,000 on a Visa debit card: That $1,000 doesn’t give you part ownership of the Visa network unless you actually own some Visa’ stock.

Owning Bitcoin gives you a right to … what, actually? Digital bits?

I can understand gold bugs and the original Bitcoin aficionados. The global economy is living beyond its means and financing its lifestyle by issuing a lot of debt. Normally this behavior would cause higher interest rates and inflation.

But not when you have central banks. Our local central bankers simply bought this newly issued debt and brought global interest rates down to near-zero levels (and in many cases to what would have been previously unthinkable negative levels). If you think investing today is difficult, being a parent is even more difficult. I tried to explain the above to my sixteen-year-old son, Jonah. I saw the same puzzled look in his eyes as when he found out where babies come from. I also felt embarrassed, for my inability to explain how governments can buy the debt they just issued. The concept of negative interest rates goes against every logical fiber in my body and is as confusing to this forty-four-year-old parent as it is to my sixteen-year-old.

The logical inconsistencies and internal sickness of the global economy have manifested themselves into a digital creature: Bitcoin. The core argument for Bitcoin is not much different from the argument for gold: central banks cannot print it.

However, the shininess of gold has less appeal to millennials than Bitcoin does. They are not into jewelry as much as previous generations; they don’t wear watches (unless they track your heartbeat and steps). Unlike with gold, where transporting a million dollars requires an armored track and a few body builders, a nearly weightless thumb drive will store a dollar or a billion dollars of Bitcoin.

Gold bugs would of course argue that gold has a tradition that goes back centuries. To which digital millennials would probably say, gold is analog and Bitcoin is digital. And they’d add, in today’s world the past is not a predictor of the future – Sears was around for 125 years and now it is almost dead.

A client jokingly told me that his biggest gripe with me in 2016 and 2017 was that I didn’t buy him any Bitcoin. I told him not so jokingly that if I bought him Bitcoin, he’d be right to fire me.

Maybe I’m a dinosaur; but, like gold, Bitcoin is impossible to value. What is it worth? It has no cash flows. Is a coin worth $2, $200, or $20,000? But Wall Street strategists have already figured out how to model and value this creature. Their models sound like this: “If only X percent of the global population buys Y amount of Bitcoin, then due to its scarcity it will be worth Z”. On the surface, these types of models bring apparent rationality and an almost businesslike valuation to an asset that has no inherent value. You can let your imagination run wild with X’s and Y’s, but the simple truth is this: Bitcoin is un-valuable.

In 1997, when Coke’s (NYSE:KO) valuation started to rival some dotcoms, bulls used this math:

“The average consumer of Coke in developed markets drinks 296 ounces of Coke a year. These markets represent only 20% of the global population.”

And then the punchline: “Can you imagine what Coke’s sales would be if only X% of the rest of the world consumed 296 ounces of Coke a year?” Somehow, the rest of the world still doesn’t consume 296 ounces of Coke. Twenty years later, Coke’s stock price is not far from where it was then – but on the way it declined 60% and stayed there for a decade. Coke, however, was a real company with a real product, real sales, a real brand and real tangible, dividend-producing cash flows.

If you cannot value an asset you cannot be rational. With Bitcoin at $11,000 today, it is crystal clear to me, with the benefit of hindsight, that I should have bought Bitcoin at 28 cents. But you only get hindsight in hindsight.

Let’s mentally (only mentally) buy Bitcoin today at $11,000. If it goes up 5% a day like a clock and gets to $110,000 – you don’t need rationality. Just buy and gloat. But what do you do if the price goes down to $8,000?

You’ll probably say, “No big deal, I believe in cryptocurrencies.” What if it then goes to $5,500? Half of your hard-earned money is gone. Do you buy more? Trust me, at that point in time the celebratory articles you are reading today will have vanished. The awesome stories of a plumber becoming an overnight millionaire with the help of Bitcoin will not be gracing the social media. The moral support – which is really peer pressure – that drives you to own Bitcoin will be gone, too.

Then you’ll be reading stories about other suckers like you who bought it at what – in hindsight – turned out to be the all-time high and who got sucked into the potential for future riches. And then Bitcoin will tumble to $2,000 and then to $100.

Since you have no idea what this crypto thing is worth, there is no center of gravity to guide you or anyone else to make rational decisions. With Coke or another real business that generates actual cash flows, we can at least have an intelligent conversation about what the company is worth. We can’t have one with Bitcoin. The X times Y = Z math will be reapplied by Wall Street as it moves on to something else.

People who are buying Bitcoin today are doing it for one simple reason: FOMO – fear of missing out. Yes, this behavior is so predominant in our society that we even have an acronym for it. Bitcoin is priced today at $11,000 because the fool who bought it for $11,000 is hoping that there is another, greater fool who will pay $12,000 for it tomorrow.

This game of greater fools is not new. The Dutch played it with tulips in the 1600s– it did not end well. Americans took the game to a new level with dotcoms in the late 1990s – that round ended in tears, too. And now millennials and millennial-wannabes are playing it with Bitcoin and few hundred other competing cryptocurrencies.

The counterargument to everything I have said so far is that those dollar bills you have in your wallet or that digitally reside in your bank account are as fictional as Bitcoin. True. Currencies, like most things in our lives, are stories that we all have (mostly) unconsciously bought into. (I highly encourage you to read my favorite book of 2015: Sapiens, by Yuval Harari.)

Of course, society and, even more importantly, governments have agreed that these fiat currencies are going to be the means of exchange. Also, taxation by the government turns the dollar bill “story” into a very physical reality: If you don’t pay taxes in dollars, you go to jail. (The US government will not accept Bitcoins, gold, chunks of granite, or even British pounds).

And finally, governments tend to look at Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as a threat to their existence. First, governments are very particular about their monopolistic right to control and print currencies – this is how they can overpromise and underdeliver.

No less important, the anonymity of cryptocurrencies makes them a heaven for tax avoiders – governments don’t like that. The Chinese government outlawed cryptocurrencies in September 2017. Western governments are most likely not far behind. If you think outlawing a competitor can happen only in a dictatorial regime like China’s, think again. This can and did happen in a democracy like the US. With Executive Order 6102 in 1933, US President Franklin D. Roosevelt made it illegal for the US population to “hoard gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates.”

However, nothing I have written above will matter until it does. Bitcoin may go up to $110,000 by the end of the 2018 before it comes down to … earth. That is how bubbles work. Just because I called it a bubble doesn’t mean it will automatically pop.

Source: https://www.investing.com/analysis/bitcoin--millennials-fake-gold-200270435

It is even more easier to count with this cryptocurrency.

Let's pretend tomorrow everybody will gonna sell all their Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Dash and then buy Ripple.

$245,017,421,058 + $73,007,862,975 + $42,427,889,654 + $13,314,570,373 + $8,863,306,428 = 382,631,050,488

382,631,050,488 : 38,739,144,847 = $9,80

So you need to understand that this is basically not possible them to rise even to 10 dollars...

Don't believe my? Go and count Ripple

Market Cap: $71,157,223,429 : Circulating Supply: 38,739,144,847 = $1.83 Same amount that it costs now.

First of all you are assuming that what the combined crypto market cap is now, is what it will always be. If you are someone who thinks crypto will be a viable currency for years to come then the market cap is quite small. Ripple is one of the only crypto's that is actually seeing real world use with banks. These banks need to transfer billions and billions of dollars. In order to do that, Ripple needs worth. If you think crypto is the future then it is quite possible that reaching gold's market cap of 7.7 trillion is not out of the question.

I for one see Ripple as the best bet out of all of them. Do I think it's market cap will be 7.7 trillion? No... But I don't think 1 or 2 trillion is that far fetched. So a 1 trillion dollar market cap would put ripple around $25 or something in that range.
 
i do know and i invested. I believe that xrp being centralized is what will make it live when all other coins die.
its not the revolution if its centralized. We got paypal, webmoney...., many solutiion for that :)
 
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