Yeah this is a rant.... I can't PM....wuwt

[BassTrackerBoats]

okay yes thank you, I understand and thanks for the help

I don't know that I offered as much help as this... asking publicly usually helps the entire community. Sending a PM usually does not.

 

[BotMastah]

What bombastic pomp and hyperbolic audacity with a hostile and bloated sense of entitlement!
What made you think anyone would read through that epic infantile rant? And if you thought anyone would, what did you think they would have to say about your character and appeal afterwards?

Trolling, or really this spoiled and entitled? I honestly can't tell... It's just too comical!

 

[djw1606]

Why would you join a forum and be so immediately obsessed with PMs? Surely you should spend some time getting a feel for the forum first. All your questions would have been answered if you would have just spent a little time getting to know the forum.

But, I guess you are entitled to start a thread the way you did. I hope you got the answers you were searching for. What I will say, is that if a new member with a low post count does start PMing members, it is very likely that they will be ignored anyway. We much prefer discussing things on the forum threads than in private.

 

[MatthewGraham]

THANK YOU MathewGraham!!! I do apologize... I was really not trying to be insulting.... sarcastic yes but in any case you were able to cut to the chase and I followed your directions and yes you are right I can now PM and on top of that you answered my questions... if I offended I am sorry.... you have been very kind and I appreciate your help... I hope to be here a long time and appreciate your help. Thank you!!!

I'm not personally offended. If I were @Apricot, I'd give a stern look in your general direction. You'd catch more flies with concise honey than with incoherent vinegar.

Speak publicly to the person you want to PM and leave out anything that is sensitive or private in the thread you have a question or comment.

I don't know that I offered as much help as this... asking publicly usually helps the entire community. Sending a PM usually does not.

Also, PMing people out of the blue to ask them to help you personally is sort of a big ask.

People with blue/white/green/red/non-yellow usernames aren't your dad, OP. They're not here to hold your hand and/or spoonfeed you Internet marketing techniques. Post on the forum and people will generally help you. PM people asking them for advice and they will probably stab you in the dick.

 

[HoNeYBiRD]

Conversation = PM
and
Post = Message

This change was made when the forum was moved to the new platform a year and a half ago. Conversation can equal to private message, i see nothing wrong with that, however using "Message" instead of "Post" still looks weird to me to present day.
We keep referring to these on their old names though, because that's what we're used to.

 

[dcjacopo]

I'm not personally offended. If I were @Apricot, I'd give a stern look in your general direction. You'd catch more flies with concise honey than with incoherent vinegar.





Also, PMing people out of the blue to ask them to help you personally is sort of a big ask.

People with blue/white/green/red/non-yellow usernames aren't your dad, OP. They're not here to hold your hand and/or spoonfeed you Internet marketing techniques. Post on the forum and people will generally help you. PM people asking them for advice and they will probably stab you in the dick.

Yeah I appreciate that and consider it good advice.... I wanted to PM somone offering a service and so my desire to talk to them was about using their service but I will take note of your advice, thank you

 

[Zwielicht]

This change was made when the forum was moved to the new platform a year and a half ago. Conversation can equal to private message, i see nothing wrong with that, however using "Message" instead of "Post" still looks weird to me to present day.
We keep referring to these on their old names though, because that's what we're used to.

You know, I've never been a fan of that change.

 

[dcjacopo]

This change was made when the forum was moved to the new platform a year and a half ago. Conversation can equal to private message, i see nothing wrong with that, however using "Message" instead of "Post" still looks weird to me to present day.
We keep referring to these on their old names though, because that's what we're used to.

thank you for the insight

Dafuq did I just read?

and thank you for giving me the opportunity to learn some more internet/urban slang

The time it took for you to bitch and rant, could have spent in conversation, being a valuable member of this forum. Instead you’re wasting everyone’s time writing a bunch of cry baby shit. I would put $2000 down, betting that you were born sooner than the 1990s.

wrong again but thanks for playing

The time it took for you to bitch and rant, could have spent in conversation, being a valuable member of this forum. Instead you’re wasting everyone’s time writing a bunch of cry baby shit. I would put $2000 down, betting that you were born sooner than the 1990s.

Sorry I disagree based on the number of newbies who ask "Why can't I post?"

Consider that all new members are sent a welcome message with several links and one is to help answer this very question and yet it is one of the most asked questions and most searched topics (my guess) by newbies. That should be telling you that maybe the answer is not as clear as you think. All I am saying is that if words were used consistently.... if at the very least it was explained that

Conversation = PM

and

Message = Post

and that after your 15th Message (or post) you would be able to PM someone (start a conversation) but that it might take 30 minutes or an hour for the system to recognize your 15th message so be calm keep reading but be assured that once those things happen you will be able to PM.... my guess is that 80% of the newbies asking "why can't I PM?" would go away....

While it is unlikely, if this rant helps the powers that be decide to simply add those suggestions into the welcome post, it will in my opinion end up saving a lot of people a lot of time.

If this sounds like a baby crying to you I'm guessing you've never really been around a crying baby

oh and let me know when you'd like to send the $2000

 

[dcjacopo]

What bombastic pomp and hyperbolic audacity with a hostile and bloated sense of entitlement!
What made you think anyone would read through that epic infantile rant? And if you thought anyone would, what did you think they would have to say about your character and appeal afterwards?

Trolling, or really this spoiled and entitled? I honestly can't tell... It's just too comical!

Really? either you read the rant which begs the question you just asked or you didn't read it in which case what the hell are you talking about, commenting on something you didn't read? Talk about bloated and infantile. And what the hell does that have to do with my character and appeal? What a stretch to attack someone you don't know on such a personal level, really you need to chill a little. My post was loaded with sarcasm which some say is the sign of intelligence... I don't know but I would not go around bragging about not getting it. At least you got, even if in the wrong way, the comical aspect of this And yes I did get my questions answered so thank you. And the point remains, someone ought to make the changes I've suggested (do you even know what they are?) and it would cut down seriously on newbies posting what inevitably gets attacked by self righteous holier than thou types like yourself, which might reasonably be looked upon as infantile, entitled and spoiled rants in their own right

 

[BotMastah]

Really? either you read the rant which begs the question you just asked or you didn't read it in which case what the hell are you talking about, commenting on something you didn't read? Talk about bloated and infantile. And what the hell does that have to do with my character and appeal? What a stretch to attack someone you don't know on such a personal level, really you need to chill a little. My post was loaded with sarcasm which some say is the sign of intelligence... I don't know but I would not go around bragging about not getting it. At least you got, even if in the wrong way, the comical aspect of this And yes I did get my questions answered so thank you. And the point remains, someone ought to make the changes I've suggested (do you even know what they are?) and it would cut down seriously on newbies posting what inevitably gets attacked by self righteous holier than thou types like yourself, which might reasonably be looked upon as infantile, entitled and spoiled rants in their own right

You just want to argue and create drama. Hopefully that nature of yours gets you banned soon. If not, I don't care. Just another nut on the ignore list until then.

 

[Larry Igna]

I usually join forums to read more about a subject of my interest.If the information is there, I consume it quietly.If it's not there, I might ask about it in some thread. I don't really care about changing forum internal rules or digging too much into why's and how's.
Take what's there and you need, give back what you can. If it's not there, do not disturb, it's a reason for that.
Can't wait to see what you have to give to the forums, now that you've been so demanding.

 

[Mr Cracker]

 

[dcjacopo]

You just want to argue and create drama. Hopefully that nature of yours gets you banned soon. If not, I don't care. Just another nut on the ignore list until then.

While I appreciate the creativity I got tired of waiting for the punch line

Thanks for stopping by

 

[dcjacopo]

the more you post the more you can do as a user ...

you need to start helping others in a forum you understand and then everythink will be usable.

i think afther 15 post you can start to pm others but not spam.

you can ask in the thread your in if you dont understand somethink said .

Hey redarrow, I just wanted to say thanks, now that I understand the whole pm process your post in this thread actually makes sense, including the part about upgrading...the fact that you came back 3 times to try and enlighten me I thinks speaks to your good intentions which I do appreciate, thanks

 

[irweazel]

What is the color of the blue cat?

 

[dcjacopo]

I usually join forums to read more about a subject of my interest.If the information is there, I consume it quietly.If it's not there, I might ask about it in some thread. I don't really care about changing forum internal rules or digging too much into why's and how's.
Take what's there and you need, give back what you can. If it's not there, do not disturb, it's a reason for that.
Can't wait to see what you have to give to the forums, now that you've been so demanding.

I just want to say I appreciate your post and admire your approach, truly. I labeled my thread a rant in the hopes that it would NOT be taken too seriously but I will not deny for a newbie and I have to believe many newbies the frustration over this simple matter is something I think could be, mostly avoided. If I offended you I apologize as that was not my intent. I do hope I can contribute in a positive way to the bhw community but admittedly I am not an expert in these things and am here to learn, as I do, yes I will give back, thank you

 

[BHW-News]

You do realize I am sure, that in your post that you claim is to answer such questions as "why can't I PM" you do not use the term "PM" even once?

The only logical assumption I can make and it is an assumption because you were not kind enough to spell it out, is that when you said

"Reply to a conversation"
and
"Start a conversation"

you were referring to PM privileges

I assume that you meant "conversation" is a PM..... ???? is that correct?

Fair enough, the terms we use can be very confusing for a newbie. I appreciate the feedback and I've added the term "PM" to my thread with the member level details in it

I'm going to close this thread before it goes off-topic any more.