Let discuss selling mid value branded goods/electricals.

[Craiglogan]

Hi first post here i was over at aspkins but seems theres only one answer over there "buy the stealth guide" which i already have and does not answer anything non general. Even tried to buy it again to gain "vip access" but there processor declines everything.

Always UK. But i took a year out and things have changed

All account setup in real ID's

I start my accounts by buying around 10 .99p items to get some feedback and i've been selling around 10 .99p items to gain some more seller feedback. Then i will list some items for £40 - 100 .. lately .. first one goes through, instant payment .. second one get my paypal restricted even without withdrawing and even with 10 days between the 2 sales.

I've got 2 accounts open which i am selling around £2k about 6 months old and are pretty strong now i guess. I'm happy selling 2k per month per account but ideally would like to get more open to take any strain off them

Problem is near enough everything i open now gets shut down on that second sale.

They're not linking my accounts, my IP's are fresh and clean. What am i doing wrong to trigger paypals systems?

I possibly think the selling 99p items is the issue as 10 99p then jump to £50 is a 50x value increase. So for the new accounts i am going to buy 10 items over the course of this week. Then list 2 x £50 items straight away then build up value over the next few weeks. Question is, at what speed should i build up?

I had an account open selling 3 -4 £75 items a week for 6 weeks, then they closed me.

I'm not even trying to withdraw money until i've got a £300 reserve (yes paypal owes me a lot right now!)

Anyone can advice on how to manage the account without getting limited?

If i open accounts sell 1-2 items then leave them 4-5 months .. is that the way to go or will that trigger?

Problem is i need to sell now!

Anyone can give advice?

 

[toml3030]

I start my accounts by buying around 10 .99p items to get some feedback and i've been selling around 10 .99p items to gain some more seller feedback. Then i will list some items for £40 - 100 .. lately .. first one goes through, instant payment .. second one get my paypal restricted even without withdrawing and even with 10 days between the 2 sales.

Nothing screams scam like building up transaction history with .99 items and then starting to list 100x as expensive.

 

[Craiglogan]

Nothing screams scam like building up transaction history with .99 items and then starting to list 100x as expensive.

Thats what i thought. It used to work fine, guess paypal wised up somewhat. What value £££ would you recommend selling at to start with and how many/often? To stay under their radar in your opinion. And how quickly to build up to the £150 -250 value i would like to be selling? I'm fullfilling orders.

 

[toml3030]

Thats what i thought. It used to work fine, guess paypal wised up somewhat. What value £££ would you recommend selling at to start with and how many/often? To stay under their radar in your opinion. And how quickly to build up to the £150 -250 value i would like to be selling? I'm fullfilling orders.

This is my opinion only, but you should start with something at least tangently related to the niche you eventually want to list in so it looks less suspicious. Don't act like you're trying to game the system. I actually haven't had problems starting straight away with listing $50-$200 items. Why? Because I'm supposed to be a newbie and newbies don't know any better. If you build all your transactions with $1 plastic ice cube trays and then start listing graphics cards once you remove limits that screams scam. I personally think a lot has to do with how account is created. I don't cut corners when making accounts (real US phone, real US credit cards, real US address, etc for US accounts) and scale up VERY slow, and I have never had problems with paypal or eBay even when I start off by listing $50 moderately risky items.

 

[Craiglogan]

This is my opinion only, but you should start with something at least tangently related to the niche you eventually want to list in so it looks less suspicious. Don't act like you're trying to game the system. I actually haven't had problems starting straight away with listing $50-$200 items. Why? Because I'm supposed to be a newbie and newbies don't know any better. If you build all your transactions with $1 plastic ice cube trays and then start listing graphics cards once you remove limits that screams scam. I personally think a lot has to do with how account is created. I don't cut corners when making accounts (real US phone, real US credit cards, real US address, etc for US accounts) and scale up VERY slow, and I have never had problems with paypal or eBay even when I start off by listing $50 moderately risky items.

I kind of knew where i was going wrong, just needed some confirmation, my accounts have been alright with 50 to £200 items so far .. i'm now testing accounts with lower values x 2 sales per week and higher 1 sales per week to see what kills them .. so far nothing .. my reason for making the mistake to list £1 items was more to prevent fraud orders .. scammers love a newbie. But at first didn't consider how pp may see it.

Like you i use real everything except for cc i use vcc. Though i did give thought to using real cc's in future.

I think i've sussed my problem atm. My next task is to get US accounts open, but i first need to find away to open US bank accounts that don't scream fraud to paypal .. and also setup a stable connection, i was thinking RDP but residential don't last and from what i hear data centres scream fraud to pp too.

I've heard of SSH tunneling, i will have to do my research

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

One more question .. when you say slow .. how slow? My plan is to sell £500 this month £1000 next month then somewhere between £1000-2000 from there on. Is this too quick in your opinion, just right or could i move a little quicker?

 

[toml3030]

One more question .. when you say slow .. how slow? My plan is to sell £500 this month £1000 next month then somewhere between £1000-2000 from there on. Is this too quick in your opinion, just right or could i move a little quicker?

I may be overdoing it, but I age my account for at least over a year. I just started selling heavy in account I created in 2014 right now. What you're doing should be fine. I don't know about UK, but in US you get credit risk assessment from paypal somewhere between $5K and $20K a month and if you can clear that the sky is the limit as long as you don't do anything suspicious.

 

[Craiglogan]

I don't plan to ever hit 5k a month so fingers crossed. Just spread across more and more accounts. I have done in the past and got the "send documents" followed by "send more documents" only 1 account did i manage to get passed that. 2 of my accounts have just got the "call us" from ebay. 1 week old 1/2 sales. Called them and everything is fine reinstated. My 1 month old accounts have some 5-6 and no issues so far. So age is the key, just time is money, right now i can't wait 12 months to age them. Would be interested in buying accounts if i could find a reliable source with sales history. I always fear those accounts would be ATO'd and i'd loose them when the original owner realized .. and the balance too.