Is Blackhat SEO dying out? [Serious]

[Johnny_Tsunami]

Ooohhh weeee Rick, I think Blackhat SEO is dying

 

[fc-dh]

He is educating us on what black hat is. I'm personally very grateful for his wisdom. He taught me a lot.

Oooohhhwww is that what that is, than a big thank you

 

[SEO-Greg]

OMG SEO is dying or dead dammit I just got three new contracts. All jokes aside SEO 2017 googlerankspecalist are pretty much between a crossroad and A rough one at that this is why. Google Launched its "AI" on the market its very hush hush but I saw the article and with-in two weeks people were crying SEO is Dead but there is a flip side to that coin,
If you're smart you'll just up sell the other market Search Engines Bing exc....
Oh tip to all you SEO GURU's (BREAKING NEWS, NEWS, ANY FREEKING NEWS CNN FAKE NEWS) it doesn't matter
Algorithms Have Problems with News because the content is so NEW......
SEO isn't Dead but it's getting really really competitive...
6000000 sites trying to fight for 9 spots...
Oh yea BTW apple just hired a bunch of Mapping Techs
hhmmmm wonder what there up to.
FREE TIP: AI is really weak with ART...

 

[cplay]

SEO in general is based on the web 1.0 ie semantics, SMM is based on the web 2.0 ie shares and signals... the web 3.0 interlocks all engagement on the web across all platforms using timestamped null tokens on a blockchain.

In the future we'll all learn finally that content really is king. We won't be able to force people to percieve value based on semantics, links, ranks, botted signals, or shares. A decentralized search engine will take what is now like a phone book, and turn it into a zero-ad library with 24/7 automated serps, because EVERYTHING will be timestamped and marked with value ALL the time.

Interesting views...

Where are your sources that you concluded this from?

Or is this conclusion based on your own assertions?

 

[rdz51214]

No, Blackhat SEO is ever green, It is not not dying. It is harder to rank high because competition is enlarging .

 

[xyzhat]

All these guys telling blackhat is dead are either dumb or geniuses.
I'll explain, if you are using some method to help you make money you will not tell people it is working.... You get it?

 

[SEO-Greg]

Interesting views...

Where are your sources that you concluded this from?

Or is this conclusion based on your own assertions?

I can not post links yet I don't have enough post yet as I'm a newbie
but if you google it and do about 20min of research you will find more than enough
evidence to see that it only makes sense.Also, go to google experiments to
check out whats being worked on.

 

[SEO-Greg]

No, Blackhat SEO is ever green, It is not dying. It is harder to rank high because competition is enlarging .

EXACTLY, But the competition is AI ...
Point to ponder "What happens if Google decides to alienate strategically displace and segregate searches by location"
and Why has apple decided to hire all these mapping techs further-more What happens if AI completely takes over mapping"
Imagine looking to hire an SEO googlerankspecialist from Baltimore but you live in Cali and google doesn't index rank specialist
due to DNS or ISP or IP's Addresses ...Seems like we have a lot to discuss when it comes to artificial intelligence SEO, SEM, Marketing,
and websites.
I will leave you guys on this note Google's Deep mind already Launched into the Health Care Market, wait and see in a few weeks
Health care guru's Crying comp is ridiculous these AI's are too powerful at their entry level for us to compete with.Guys, you Better start learning machine
learning if you want to make money online.
and for the lazy readers go to youtube Tedtalks AI watch some video's then come post.

 

[BobbysBurgers]

If it is an algorithm, it can be gamed. That should sum it up.

Traditional "Blackhat SEO" methods might not be as effective, but something else might come up due to the changes.

Thats the black hat game right? White hat has years of good info that still applies. Black hat goes the other way. Soon as it gains popularity its not as helpful.

 

[fc-dh]

I can not post links yet I don't have enough post yet as I'm a newbie
but if you google it and do about 20min of research you will find more than enough
evidence to see that it only makes sense.Also, go to google experiments to
check out whats being worked on.

If your content is king nonsense had any truth in them sites like angielist and Amazon would never be on the frontpage of EVERY buying/local keyword...

 

[SEO-Greg]

If your content is king nonsense had any truth in them sites like angielist and Amazon would never be on the frontpage of EVERY buying/local keyword...

I don't want to get in a "mine is bigger" argument this early on this forum but I'll just have to prove it . Give me one page off one of your many sites watch my skyrocket it to 8th place and better with-in
72hrs

 

[proxygo]

do we all need to pack up and go home, thought this seo thing would last for ever

 

[SEO-Greg]

do we all need to pack up and go home, thought this seo thing would last for ever

Nothing is forever not even 15 post

 

[dogilim]

it is not die but it very hard in feature because competition is growing

nice grammar skills

 

[innocent_kid]

it has just changed from simple backlinks and spam to rather more detailed and smart form.... just knowing how to spam links and platform wont work anymore.. you need to think like a programmer , marketer and a manager and as a search engine planner.. to figure how exactly each small thing will work..
precision and accuracy over spamming now...
algorithims dosnt just catch all backlinks.. they just have expanded their metrics and ranges...
you gotta manage seo smm and brand building parallel to make sure it looks real...
whatever algorithim may come. it will always follow some sequence and some steps.. even with TOP most AI (which we know isnt still used to real level and wont be because of risks of AI - watch zukerberg vs tesla maybe? ) AI can only adapt once it faces .. and it can adapt to so much.. so yeah by trying new and trying right way that it cant mark you fake without marking real people fake... thats how you will acheive success


so in conclusion
blackhat seo is not dieing .. just becoming more smarter and costlier affiar ...and only those that have knack for it would be able to do it.. and that should always have been the case.. so that it dosnt loose its value.. this will just make the value of blackhat seo higher all in all.. as earlier it became kids play..


peace!
ps:dont blame my english

 

[SEO-Greg]

it has just changed from simple backlinks and spam to rather more detailed and smart form.... just knowing how to spam links and platform wont work anymore.. you need to think like a programmer , marketer and a manager and as a search engine planner.. to figure how exactly each small thing will work..
precision and accuracy over spamming now...
algorithims dosnt just catch all backlinks.. they just have expanded their metrics and ranges...
you gotta manage seo smm and brand building parallel to make sure it looks real...
whatever algorithim may come. it will always follow some sequence and some steps.. even with TOP most AI (which we know isnt still used to real level and wont be because of risks of AI - watch zukerberg vs tesla maybe? ) AI can only adapt once it faces .. and it can adapt to so much.. so yeah by trying new and trying right way that it cant mark you fake without marking real people fake... thats how you will acheive success


so in conclusion
blackhat seo is not dieing .. just becoming more smarter and costlier affiar ...and only those that have knack for it would be able to do it.. and that should always have been the case.. so that it dosnt loose its value.. this will just make the value of blackhat seo higher all in all.. as earlier it became kids play..


peace!
ps:dont blame my english

I love this post BECAUSE it is almost perfect excluding the variable.516 years ago the Earth was Flat.Today Elon Musk can fly to the moon
I don't you understand the true potiential on AI if "precision and accuracy over spamming now" is our problem than I'm shoud go become
a painter BECUASE I will never be able to keep up with that of AI unless most people become a ML AI Research Scientist, Machine Learning Engineer or something which will probably take more years then they have left.I'm lucky I have started on machine learning experiments about
2 years ago but it will for sure displace 1000's of people.
LEARN COMPUTER SCIENCE TODAY AT LOOK ME UP HAHA

 

[Enzo star]

what about the other search engines, wouldn't it be a good time to strike on those with BH seo?

 

[SEO-Greg]

what about the other search engines, wouldn't it be a good time to strike on those with BH seo?

yes great time BTW sorry for the typo's this morning I've been swamped with work and im pulling allnighters for some peace.
the other search engines are good but one of the best serives to provide right now are to HIPAA Compliant servers

 

[fc-dh]

I don't want to get in a "mine is bigger" argument this early on this forum but I'll just have to prove it . Give me one page off one of your many sites watch my skyrocket it to 8th place and better with-in
72hrs

I am not going to give you shit so you can destroy my site to get to a worthless place like #8, you get maybe 1/3% of the traffic, the rest goes to Googles buddies like Amazon and yelp and angieslists, content doesn't have ANYTHING to do with it, it never has and it never will, not even with the AI, again if your content is king nonsense was true in any way shape or form these sites would never be in the top 30, let alone be on the first page with MULTIPLE listings

 

[liveforseo]

SEO is still here, that's why I specifically said BH SEO is dying and surely no one in their sane minds will refute that. Google is slowly turning all BH SEO guys to WH. lol

I am not saying that there is no chance for BH SEO today, but we are advancing towards a scenario where it is a skill of dimnishing value.

Being a young guy, I want to work on something whose momentum will help me push forward later into my career. SEO sadly doesn't seem like it. It is crowded (most things are) and the market size is going to shrink further more as we move into the future. Right now I have no liabilities, no mouths to feed. Almost no responsibilities. So I can choose to not make any money for the next 6 or 12 months in order to meet my long term goals. I might not have this opportunity in the future.

So even though I pride myself in being pretty fucking good when it comes to SEO, I jumped ship. I jumped ship because I would like my work to stay relevant for at least a few years from now. Something that has a momentum.

Very true. You have chosen the right time to jump in. I am sure if someone work on SEO for serious note than 6-8 months is good enough to get rid of his monthly bills and in next 6 month he can bank extra bucks.