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Because chrome sends all traffic information to google so when you are opening 10 pbn sites on chrome, google gets the idea that may be those 10 sites belongs to same person.Obviously google hates the idea of pbn...
Never access your PBN through google chrome
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donkey-kong
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Your inputs are now both worthless and off topic.
"You won't find 'evidence' to support this until you get whacked."
So I can assume you have been "whacked" by google or even know someone who "thinks" they have.
Please do share the evidences or even hunches / steps / experiences / guesses.
Anything but a useless random strong opinion with no meat on the bone. I've added high value comments in case your still not following. It means what you do personally, money where the mouth is so to speak.
Would be better than the last two nothings.
These high post counts lead me to believe that they are in place to spread misinformation amongst threads.
donkey-kong
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Reasonable point - this would almost certainly need to be all stored cookie information they accessed though and would have to assume your on static IP if they wanted to group that way - but I doubt that, a big office could make a ten thousand website link ring with that approach?
Anyone with more technical knowledge wish to expand?
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I doubt it too.
Occasionally more knowledgeable members on this forum will post bits of information that do a great job illustrating how the algorithms actually work. Here's one example: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/anyone-experienced-with-duplicate-content.935995/#post-9995732
In that example Google is using a lot of computing power to solve a relatively straight forward, well defined problem. There's nothing magical about what they're doing, and so I'm highly skeptical that they're able to comb through all that Chrome usage data to piece together random PBNs.
donkey-kong
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Yeah totally agreed, the resource usage would be much better served at tracking people spending money, making high end adsense queries even tracking illegal activity for the powers that be, let alone trash can raiders like us here that are far from spamming the net, in some cases bringing good old sites back to life for user benefit. +1 for the link
@bartosimpsonio this is an example of a high quality post. Not just because I agree with the statement before you pull that out your orifice but because there's logic, common sense, and personal consideration - try that before you further troll my post if you want to point out some possible reasons why google chrome shouldn't be used we are all waiting.
THUNDERELVI
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Does Google track everything you do? YES!
Will Google ban your PBN if you access it through Chrome? NO, it's just a stupid theory made up from webmasters who build shit PBN-s, leave footprints all over the place or get an algorithmic penalty and then they blame Chrome for it.
My evidence is both "theoretical" and practical from experience. I've been managing networks since 2012-2013 and nothing happened so far - sure, I've had de-indexed blogs, but not because of Chrome like people say, otherwise my entire network would have been tanked.
However, I realize that just 1 example doesn't really prove the point, so let's drill down to the theoretical part... before I make my point though, I would really like to know what does @bartosimpsonio think in terms of how Chrome is actually getting and using the data to identify PBN-s? What's the process? It's so simple to say Google will track you and then it will link you to all of the blogs you own - but to do it algorithmically would be an almost impossible task, because there is SERIOUS room for error. It's not about computing power as that is of no shortage to Google, it's about accuracy. What's the point in investing in an algorithm that identifies half of the things right and the other half wrong?
Not to mention the fact Google does NOT need to spy on you to find your blogs, because 99% of people will leave a footprint somewhere to identify them. So, in conclusion, IMO, use whatever browser you want as it doesn't matter, what matters is that you eliminate footprints in your network!
Will Google ban your PBN if you access it through Chrome? NO, it's just a stupid theory made up from webmasters who build shit PBN-s, leave footprints all over the place or get an algorithmic penalty and then they blame Chrome for it.
My evidence is both "theoretical" and practical from experience. I've been managing networks since 2012-2013 and nothing happened so far - sure, I've had de-indexed blogs, but not because of Chrome like people say, otherwise my entire network would have been tanked.
However, I realize that just 1 example doesn't really prove the point, so let's drill down to the theoretical part... before I make my point though, I would really like to know what does @bartosimpsonio think in terms of how Chrome is actually getting and using the data to identify PBN-s? What's the process? It's so simple to say Google will track you and then it will link you to all of the blogs you own - but to do it algorithmically would be an almost impossible task, because there is SERIOUS room for error. It's not about computing power as that is of no shortage to Google, it's about accuracy. What's the point in investing in an algorithm that identifies half of the things right and the other half wrong?
Not to mention the fact Google does NOT need to spy on you to find your blogs, because 99% of people will leave a footprint somewhere to identify them. So, in conclusion, IMO, use whatever browser you want as it doesn't matter, what matters is that you eliminate footprints in your network!
donkey-kong
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Yeah big plus one on this comment, it's exactly what I wanted to see/read wether it was in favour of chrome or not, and I'd love the see @bartosimpsonio opposite opinion with this kinda rationale but I fear he's a troll with a high post count spreading muck. Very willing to listen to evidences to support his statement though
Syrus Enriquez
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Never heard this one....
donkey-kong
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I have to think this could be tested - I find one hundred competitor links and continually keep revisiting them and my competitor website, logged into a specific email with cookies on to give them an attempt at getting the data together.
Googles not perfect, you can spam a competitor back link profile after all so we already have evidence that you can hurt other peoples seo.
Be awesome if someone could be bothered to set that up on auto on desktop on static IP logged into g account for a month and see what happens.
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THUNDERELVI
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Looks like OP's guess was right.
FORSAK3N
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The real question here is you are asking this because you know Google is coming ... so maybe the best thing to do is figure out how to stop using PBN's and find other methods to build long term growth ... the bumps from PBN and diminishing every year in five years they might just be cancer to a site past the 30 day opening window before the other algos start putting the pieces together about your site.
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It's no use arguing when all you get in return is personal attacks. OP is probably a former user in this forum, I've seen this thread many times, same language, same attacks.
If you use Chrome for your SEO work, you're just one less competitor. Who's complaining? Just keep it using it.
Yeah PBNs are dead. Stop using them.
aimndfire
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It takes quite a lot of effort to build quality pbn, so why would you risk by exposing to any google properties. So it is best to avoid. Also you should install plugin to ensure that it does not load google font. And access each pbn from different IP, if possible. It helps and it works
donkey-kong
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You see, you'll never get it will you. It's not an argument, it's a debate. By all means feel free to provide a bit of solid fact behind your statement and see warm open arms, rather than hostility.
Agreed, If PBN is your only strategy you might well be in trouble soon, but again that's still speculation, they work, until they don't
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The problem with your posts and your requests is basically you're asking others to prove things where you should be doing the research. You want to be spoon fed.
You have thousands of hours of experimentation ahead of you if you plan on finding anything close to the truth. Going on a forum, attacking senior members and saying "prove this" simply will not work....I can't prove anything. Because if I did prove you how they do get PBNs using their trackers (and I know how) I would be providing Google with info to close the methods. THAT is what you're really here for, you're trying to get free spoon fed info.
I know your strategy front and back and it won't work on BHW.
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I've just replied to you. You want to be spoon fed and you have a terrible attitude. You must attack me in order to feel good. You're a newbie, I've been there mate.
donkey-kong
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Regarding your point about being cancerous, certainly some links appear to be. I am pretty confident long term, it's about treating the url with respect, google cannot punish a url for it's history of backlinks, bit like I couldn't punish Mia Khlifa for her past, though I'd give it a damn good try
Regarding google is coming - It's not the game of thrones mate, simple question I think, someone says there might be a problem, great thanks for the advice, can you put some fact to it so we know what to avoid, especially when google inspector is the best property for web development bar none front end speaking.