kickthat
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Yeah, plumbers are thrown around as a similar example in the UK as well.
I need help regarding my future.
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Yeah, plumbers are thrown around as a similar example in the UK as well.
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If I could do it all over again, after kicking ass with the USMC infantry, I would have went to school focusing on marketing and business management. With those two things, you can turn anything into a profitable business. Real estate is scary, because it's realllly fucking good for a few years, and then the market implodes and its really bad for a few years. Then again, after typing that out, it seems everything has that ebb and flow cycle.
The biggest piece of advice I can give, is not to get wrapped up in a relationship if you aren't already in one. Unless you are in a relationship with a fellow marketer, they wont understand your need to burn all hours of the day and night to build your online empire. Once you're established, then go out and find your gatekeeper. But if you do the other way around, every time you're like "not now, I'm in the zone," you will be scrutinized.
The biggest piece of advice I can give, is not to get wrapped up in a relationship if you aren't already in one. Unless you are in a relationship with a fellow marketer, they wont understand your need to burn all hours of the day and night to build your online empire. Once you're established, then go out and find your gatekeeper. But if you do the other way around, every time you're like "not now, I'm in the zone," you will be scrutinized.
Sherb
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This is why I'm so happy I found a girl in high school who ended up going to medical school and is now in residency. She's off doing her thing for 80 hours a week, giving me the extra 35 or so after my day job to focus on continued IM work.
BusinessSmack
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Check out Vision Boards, and update it frequently. The main purpose is about deciding on long term goals. Because the number 1 factor to making it is consistency.
https://www.ted.com/talks/angela_lee_duckworth_grit_the_power_of_passion_and_perseverance
https://www.ted.com/talks/angela_lee_duckworth_grit_the_power_of_passion_and_perseverance
I'm oliver. I'm a 17 year old kid who starts his senior year in high school in a month.
My dream, is to live a free and happy life, not working to accomplish other people's dreams, but working for myself or with a team. I want to do something I like my whole life and get money for it. (this isn't a how to make money thread please keep on reading)
I like business. I like entrepreneurship. I like real estate. I have an interest in doing one\few of those things for living, and I want to take the right path.
What I also know is, that my daily habits are going to determine how successful I am going to be. So I wanted to ask you guys a question:
Right now, I am investing a lot of time on reading methods, trying to earn some bucks online, instagram marketing etc, and I'm asking myself- is this the right thing to do for my future? Can I actually get to something in life with the things mentioned above? for my level of knowledge and experience, probably not.
What I'm asking is- should I invest my time in reading real estate\business\entrepreneurship books, developing my social skills, living life out of my comfort zone (this is a thing I really want to do), try to understand what I'm attracted to the most, and then study the thing I want at the university.
OR - I can continue investing most of my time on trying methods, growing instagram accounts etc.. which I assume won't be the best for my future, since I'm only 17 years old and I need to focus on the thing I want to do and study at the university?
I would really appreciate if you could share with me your opinions. If you haven't understood what I'm asking please feel free to let me know. Have a nice day
Trust me when I say this... your ideas of what you want are going to change all the time. When I was your age I wanted to go into the military, then college, then to vocational school, etc. I think you should do everything in my opinion, because if you fail with it all, the very least you can say is that you tried. If I could go back in time though and tell my younger self one thing, it'd be...
"Just focus on one thing, get good enough at it so that you can make enough for a living, and from there just invest wisely. The rest will fall into place."
You are definitely on the right track, just keep it up ma' man.
w.waterman
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i like the amount of research done, what about all of the time invested at £0 per year, although it costs around 9000 / year at university now, we should also take this into account as teaching takes a lot of time and money to get into. not to mention the stress.
binmen also have the opportunity to become environmental officers or other jobs of that nature so their wages are not exactly capped off at 25K.
not saying being a binman is cool or anything, but nowadays much less respect is given to teachers as it is usually a fall back/ safety net job for most degree holders, i even considered it.
just a little something i found:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/222811/Binmen-earning-45-000-a-year-for-24-hour-week
binmen also have the opportunity to become environmental officers or other jobs of that nature so their wages are not exactly capped off at 25K.
not saying being a binman is cool or anything, but nowadays much less respect is given to teachers as it is usually a fall back/ safety net job for most degree holders, i even considered it.
just a little something i found:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/222811/Binmen-earning-45-000-a-year-for-24-hour-week
kickthat
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You made a somewhat flippant comment. I got pedantic and called you out on it. Are you really still trying to argue this?
Are you seriously trying to tell me that binmen earn more than teachers because you have to account for the input for a university degree? I mean really? Let's just ignore the fact that you only pay student loans back when earning over a threshold, because this point is irrelevant if you now have to use it to clarify your initial statement.
No argument here. I'm sure teaching is a more stressful job than being a binman. Being a binman is much more physically demanding...what's your point? Some people are cut out for a more physically intensive career, others aren't. Some people can handle job related stress better than others.
And a teacher could become an investment banker. How is that relevant? An environmental officer is not a binman. Teachers can become headteachers, who can earn up to £150k. Again, not at all what your initial comment insinuated.
I'm not wholly disagreeing with you. On the face of it, being a binman seems a reasonable job for decent pay, provided you can deal with the physicality of it, and the not-so-hygienic nature of it. It wouldn't be for everyone. You used this as an example that becoming a binman is somehow the smarter choice because they have taken a cushy option and are rolling in cash for little work. That is simply not the case.
I've seen that article. I disregard it because.
1. It's a shitty newspaper.
2. It's mainstream media, written with an agenda (to shock, outrage etc) so is much more likely to be biased than the government link I posted.
3. It's based on one single area in the largest local authority in the UK.
4. It's 6 years out of date - before mega council cuts etc
On the basis of those things alone I don't see it as a credible source that binmen around the country are earning the amounts talked about in that article. Certainly not enough to make the sweeping generalisation that you made in the first instance.
To maintain harmony, can we agree that your initial comment was too simplistic, but that being a binman is not as bad as it might appear?
EDIT: Apologies to OP for a rather weird thread hi-jack. If you hadn't sussed this already, I am very much in favour of achieving the highest level of education that you can and setting yourself up in a stable position from which to pursue your chosen path, whether that be further education, a long term career working for someone else, or self employment in whatever form that takes.
Are you seriously trying to tell me that binmen earn more than teachers because you have to account for the input for a university degree? I mean really? Let's just ignore the fact that you only pay student loans back when earning over a threshold, because this point is irrelevant if you now have to use it to clarify your initial statement.
No argument here. I'm sure teaching is a more stressful job than being a binman. Being a binman is much more physically demanding...what's your point? Some people are cut out for a more physically intensive career, others aren't. Some people can handle job related stress better than others.
And a teacher could become an investment banker. How is that relevant? An environmental officer is not a binman. Teachers can become headteachers, who can earn up to £150k. Again, not at all what your initial comment insinuated.
I'm not wholly disagreeing with you. On the face of it, being a binman seems a reasonable job for decent pay, provided you can deal with the physicality of it, and the not-so-hygienic nature of it. It wouldn't be for everyone. You used this as an example that becoming a binman is somehow the smarter choice because they have taken a cushy option and are rolling in cash for little work. That is simply not the case.
I've seen that article. I disregard it because.
1. It's a shitty newspaper.
2. It's mainstream media, written with an agenda (to shock, outrage etc) so is much more likely to be biased than the government link I posted.
3. It's based on one single area in the largest local authority in the UK.
4. It's 6 years out of date - before mega council cuts etc
On the basis of those things alone I don't see it as a credible source that binmen around the country are earning the amounts talked about in that article. Certainly not enough to make the sweeping generalisation that you made in the first instance.
To maintain harmony, can we agree that your initial comment was too simplistic, but that being a binman is not as bad as it might appear?
EDIT: Apologies to OP for a rather weird thread hi-jack. If you hadn't sussed this already, I am very much in favour of achieving the highest level of education that you can and setting yourself up in a stable position from which to pursue your chosen path, whether that be further education, a long term career working for someone else, or self employment in whatever form that takes.
w.waterman
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i personally wouldnt take the loan due to personal reasons and would pay the money up front as i am against interest and usury, however i do have a degree and did somewhat enjoy my time at university but i will most likely not use my qualification for work. i am a strong believer in knowledge gaining but i dont believe one should need a certificate to be educated.
well you push a great argument and i do agree with a lot of what you said, however i would choose less work over more any day and personally wouldn't want to be a teacher or a binman, if i had to choose between the 2 for the same wage and overall money i would choose a binman. maybe others would choose a teacher but i ain't afraid to get my hands dirty.
i think the stress factor in most jobs, not only teaching, pushes me towards self employment and making money for myself rather than others.
i think you are right when you think some people can handle the work related stress a lot more than others.
back to the original post:
i cannot suggest university as i do not agree with the elitist nature of the place and having to 'conform' to societies norms. i believe you should be yourself and you are able to better yourself with or without an establishment as nowadays there is a huge amount of knowledge widely available should you choose to study something.
a great example is Richard Branson, im not entirely sure but i think he is epileptic and really struggled to read and write etc. he is now mega rich. not that money is everything or the most important thing
well you push a great argument and i do agree with a lot of what you said, however i would choose less work over more any day and personally wouldn't want to be a teacher or a binman, if i had to choose between the 2 for the same wage and overall money i would choose a binman. maybe others would choose a teacher but i ain't afraid to get my hands dirty.
i think the stress factor in most jobs, not only teaching, pushes me towards self employment and making money for myself rather than others.
i think you are right when you think some people can handle the work related stress a lot more than others.
back to the original post:
i cannot suggest university as i do not agree with the elitist nature of the place and having to 'conform' to societies norms. i believe you should be yourself and you are able to better yourself with or without an establishment as nowadays there is a huge amount of knowledge widely available should you choose to study something.
a great example is Richard Branson, im not entirely sure but i think he is epileptic and really struggled to read and write etc. he is now mega rich. not that money is everything or the most important thing
Henry IV
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Take this post as a warning. Joined in 2014, still made 0 but "learnt" a lot. Learn first, be "free" later once you have skills that you know you can monetise on your own
Sherb
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Yeah but between April 2015 and July 2017 there is a large gap of no posting. In that time, abcofwyx's English skills declined rapidly, so they must have had something to do in those two plus years...
theabcofxyz
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The gaps are me lurking.
My English has been somewhat affected due to being an expat for nearly two decades.
My English has been somewhat affected due to being an expat for nearly two decades.