Premature ejaculation was an evolutionary advantage

[Luminesce]

It's passed on genetically then?

Evolution kinda backfired, as now we have lot's of dudes prematurely ejaculating behind their pc screens, watching anime hentai and dabbing.
I guess this is the "future"

Seriously though, never looked at it that way before, interesting!

 

[Gogol]

This could be a slogan

two humps a day, keeps the doctor away

 

[theabcofxyz]

It's passed on genetically then?

Maybe. Maybe not. It's just something that occurred to me one day and it made sense to me.

 

[BlackBDO]

So you blame this problem on the theory of natural selection, having as argument that they had better chance to reproduce because ti lasted less so chances for them to be eaten by a giant cat were lower? You know they had caves right? Or trees. And even if they were not having those, chances to be eaten by a cat would be the same if you are trying to reproduce or just fishing outside your cave. And in both scenarios you can just stop and fight that animal.

Not to add the fact that we are not like dogs, we feel that "need" constantly, so.. if that ancestor lasted like 2 minutes, I don't think he'd get another chance... And think that they had no idea about how the reproductive female system works. So, on each try (per day) they had like a maximum 15% chance.

Imo that is not a genetic trait, I mean... yeah it might be a little related, but still this is a psychological problem, mostly caused by porn addiction.

Just to add one more point, more than 1/3 of the population of USA is overweight, and I strongly don't think it's because our overweight ancestors had any kind of advantage in that era.


Also from some studies shown PE% in 2015 - 21%, while in 2017 it increased by x1.5 going to 35%+.

So... Stop blaming genetics and stop watching porn!

 

[theabcofxyz]

So you blame this problem on the https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/popgen/popgen5.htm, having as argument that they had better chance to reproduce because ti lasted less so chances for them to be eaten by a giant cat were lower? You know they had caves right? Or trees. And even if they were not having those, chances to be eaten by a cat would be the same if you are trying to reproduce or just fishing outside your cave. And in both scenarios you can just stop and fight that animal.

Not to add the fact that we are not like dogs, we feel that "need" constantly, so.. if that ancestor lasted like 2 minutes, I don't think he'd get another chance... And think that they had no idea about how the reproductive female system works. So, on each try (per day) they had like a maximum 15% chance.

Imo that is not a genetic trait, I mean... yeah it might be a little related, but still this is a psychological problem, http://www.srhmatters.org/sexual-health/premature-ejaculation/.

Just to add one more point, https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity, and I strongly don't think it's because our overweight ancestors had any kind of advantage in that era.


Also from some studies shown https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/16205491/, while in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302376/.

So... Stop blaming genetics and stop watching porn!

That's a rather crude response, isn't it? Not to mention it was apparently written in haste, without much thought to details.

I don't "blame" anything, for starters. I merely shared an idea I had, an idea I actually valued enough to put on canvas, so please, no need for such harshness.

Moving on, yes, they could have been in caves or elsewhere but the point remains: the prehistoric world was full of danger for the fledgling human. A stronger male could easily have happened on you and cracked your skull as you were trying to inseminate the female in a cave. A proto-jaguar could have gotten you in a tree as you were doing it, etc. As I said, the point remains that you had to be very quick.

And you mention fighting, say, a sabretooth tiger. No. That would not have been possible. We are talking about an era where the slightly modified ape (our ancestors 3-4 million years ago) had not figured out weaponry, we were fresh off the trees. They were chunks of flesh with low to zero protection at that time. I doubt they even had opposable thumbs back then (but of this I am not sure). At any rate, our ancestors from that period were very, very low on the food chain.

The rest I don't want to get into really.

 

[royserpa]

It is 3-4 million years ago. Our ancestors are down from trees and are standing on their feet by now.

It is a sunny, pleasant day. A male human ancestor is cautiously scoping the savannah for that big cat he saw the other day, but instead, he sees a female human ancestor. His loins catch fire, he starts running after her like a madman. She notices and tries to escape, but he tackles her and throws her to the ground.

But he knows, he knows there are innumerable dangers all around him. That big cat he was on the lookout for could materialize at any moment and eat him before he sows his seed. Perhaps a larger and stronger male ancestor will spot them, crack his skull and inseminate the female himself. This, that and the other...danger is everywhere.

So, the original male ancestor instinctively knows he has to be as quick as he can and empty his semen as fast as he can. The faster he can come, literally the higher his chances of survival -- survival in the present and survival into the future through projection of his genes, which, I thus posit, was an evolutionary advantage.

Relevant tangent: I also feel this is the reason why there are so many men who ejaculate very fast today. We have been programmed for millions of years to do just that.

F that dude. The only thing the ancestor is thinking all about, is how that bitch is going to lick his D and how he will destroy that pu$$y.

It still happens nowadays lol.

 

[oseart]

His loins catch fire

Dear god I haven't read better text in my life

 

[BlackBDO]

That's a rather crude response, isn't it? Not to mention it was apparently written in haste, without much thought to details.

I don't "blame" anything, for starters. I merely shared an idea I had, an idea I actually valued enough to put on canvas, so please, no need for such harshness.

Moving on, yes, they could have been in caves or elsewhere but the point remains: the prehistoric world was full of danger for the fledgling human. A stronger male could easily have happened on you and cracked your skull as you were trying to inseminate the female in a cave. A proto-jaguar could have gotten you in a tree as you were doing it, etc. As I said, the point remains that you had to be very quick.

And you mention fighting, say, a sabretooth tiger. No. That would not have been possible. We are talking about an era where the slightly modified ape (our ancestors 3-4 million years ago) had not figured out weaponry, we were fresh off the trees. They were chunks of flesh with low to zero protection at that time. I doubt they even had opposable thumbs back then (but of this I am not sure). At any rate, our ancestors from that period were very, very low on the food chain.

The rest I don't want to get into really.

I did not mean to sound harsh, just that I hear about a lot of people blaming this on genetics, and it really is not like that. It's something reversible, and I always try to make them understand that if it was genetic, there would be nothing to do about it, while, with this problem, you can do a lot about it and solve it. It's not easy, but it's totally doable

I also have a lot of theories on this subject (for example why men are taller and wemen not - because a tall guy has every part of his body "tall" and opposit on the woman --> more chances of a successful impregantion)

Did not want to sound hostile, but I really want to make a point on the fact that you can't blame this on genetics as most of those problems are because of the way we live our life.

 

[theabcofxyz]

Dear god I haven't read better text in my life

Flip it out man

 

[Luminesce]

So you blame this problem on the https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/popgen/popgen5.htm, having as argument that they had better chance to reproduce because ti lasted less so chances for them to be eaten by a giant cat were lower? You know they had caves right? Or trees. And even if they were not having those, chances to be eaten by a cat would be the same if you are trying to reproduce or just fishing outside your cave. And in both scenarios you can just stop and fight that animal.

Not to add the fact that we are not like dogs, we feel that "need" constantly, so.. if that ancestor lasted like 2 minutes, I don't think he'd get another chance... And think that they had no idea about how the reproductive female system works. So, on each try (per day) they had like a maximum 15% chance.

Imo that is not a genetic trait, I mean... yeah it might be a little related, but still this is a psychological problem, http://www.srhmatters.org/sexual-health/premature-ejaculation/.

Just to add one more point, https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity, and I strongly don't think it's because our overweight ancestors had any kind of advantage in that era.


Also from some studies shown https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/16205491/, while in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302376/.

So... Stop blaming genetics and stop watching porn!

''men with APE (Aquired Premature Ejaculation) presented a significantly older age, higher BMI, higher smoking rate, and presence of all comorbidities (except varicocele; P < .001 for all comparisons), whereas they reported a shorter self-estimated IELT (P < .001) and lower exercise rate (P < .001)''


These are the dudes that would wait around in the tree, drop down when a mate walked by, prematured, and hopped back up in the tree. To hide from the ground predators. The first branch of course.

Obviously making a joke lol.
But thank you for the links, interesting read and it does seem that the "APE or Aquired Premature Ejaculation is more common among "unhealthier" individuals according to the study.

OP has an interesting view though, would like to have a further look for possibilities. Even if minor.

 

[theabcofxyz]

I did not mean to sound harsh, just that I hear about a lot of people blaming this on genetics, and it really is not like that. It's something reversible, and I always try to make them understand that if it was genetic, there would be nothing to do about it, while, with this problem, you can do a lot about it and solve it. It's not easy, but it's totally doable

I also have a lot of theories on this subject (for example why men are taller and wemen not - because a tall guy has every part of his body "tall" and opposit on the woman --> more chances of a successful impregantion)

Did not want to sound hostile, but I really want to make a point on the fact that you can't blame this on genetics as most of those problems are because of the way we live our life.

And maybe it isn't genetics, sure. Then again, maybe it is. Like I said, it was just an idea I had and I felt like sharing it with BHW.

Did not want to sound hostile - well, you did, but that's ok because shit happens and we move on

 

[gman777]

@theabcofxyz You have a great point, but it's not that. We ejaculate that fast because we can't cope with the massive surge of dopamine that the brain is releasing.

If you're learning to hold it for 15 minutes, it doesn't mean that your child will do the same. These are traits, not genetics. You know, stuff that you learn, and not deep things like the fact that you like a guy or girl, or whether you're a pedo. Even if we talk about "beta" or "alpha" , we learn them from our parents based on their body language.

Besides, I don't believe it goes that way. Considering that we as guys are afraid a lot to interact with/approach girls, I'm sure that it was the same way on that era. Sure, there are outlaws, but that's not the point. Most of the guys wouldn't descend like that on a female unless they'd get the green signal.

 

[theabcofxyz]

@theabcofxyz You have a great point, but it's not that. We ejaculate that fast because we can't cope with the massive surge of dopamine that the brain is releasing.

If you're learning to hold it for 15 minutes, it doesn't mean that your child will do the same. These are traits, not genetics. You know, stuff that you learn, and not deep things like the fact that you like a guy or girl, or whether you're a pedo. Even if we talk about "beta" or "alpha" , we learn them from our parents based on their body language.

Besides, I don't believe it goes that way. Considering that we as guys are afraid a lot to interact with/approach girls, I'm sure that it was the same way on that era. Sure, there are outlaws, but that's not the point. Most of the guys wouldn't descend like that on a female unless they'd get the green signal.

Hi man. I had to look up the exact meaning of "trait" before I replied, and I saw it meant "a genetically determined characteristic" so I don't know what to say about that.

Considering that we as guys are afraid a lot to interact with/approach girls, I'm sure that it was the same way on that era. - I'm fairly certain it was a free for all fuckfest back then. There were no morals, our ancestors then were slightly more than typical animals, if that. In the absence of morals, everything goes right?

Most of the guys wouldn't descend like that on a female unless they'd get the green signal. - We are going to have to agree to disagree

 

[gman777]

"trait"

Well, I guess you understood what I was trying to say.

Idk, dude. Honestly, I'm so TILTED, since with all these "pre-approvement", "genetics", and all this stuff. There are people who don't give a fuck, aren't model looking guys, and have a healthy sexual life/monetary. We should be focusing on earning money, since we are on an IM forum, and don't bother with all these stuff which will make us get our first white hair before we reach 30. Cheers.

 

[darulez]

luckily I seldom meed ejaculating men on a regular basis

 

[theabcofxyz]

We should be focusing on earning money, since we are on an IM forum, and don't bother with all these stuff which will make us get our first white hair before we reach 30. Cheers.

I'm 43 and have started to get white chest hairs - so yes, let's definitely focus on making money Know anyone who can bring in FX/BO EN traffic $500 CPA?

seldom

That's the key word isn't it? Not keyword, key word

 

[Zwielicht]

What's with all of the genital threads lately? Have people on BHW been buying viagra from those forum spammers who attack the forum each day or something?

 

[theabcofxyz]

What's with all of the genital threads lately? Have people on BHW been buying viagra from those forum spammers who attack the forum each day or something?

No viagra here, but maybe I should have went with a single-assumption answer to whether the egg or the chicken came first...

 

[pewep]

Those must have been great times. You could bang any girl you wanted at any time. I just woke up? Bang. It's 5 pm? Bang.

No offense mate but this (and OP's theory) are just plain old retarded.

Are you going to stand around while your mother/sister/daughter gets raped? I don't fucking think so. So why on earth would my early ancestors sit on their thumbs while a random horny jackoff swung by?

 

[rafark]

No offense mate but this (and OP's theory) are just plain old retarded.

Are you going to stand around while your mother/sister/daughter gets raped? I don't fucking think so. So why on earth would my early ancestors sit on their thumbs while a random horny jackoff swung by?

Well, I'm sorry but I can't help you if you took my post seriously.