300£ a day

[Inception_AC]

also if you are like me, when sites like this qask for details i always provide a fake email aqddress

 

[mickyfu]

Anyone with access to a large network of devices could do this and complete hundreds of offers,

You mean like the Apple store and any other mobile store. You could just walk round the mobile shops signing up off each device.

 

[mickyfu]

also if you are like me, when sites like this qask for details i always provide a fake email aqddress

I'm sure everyone does.

The only way I could see any profit in this is actually selling the connection at a very cheap price.

 

[Deleted member 720373]

Makes you wonder why OP will not come and state which network he uses. He seems to have gone quiet now his "method" has been pulled apart.

He won't state which network because he probably never tried it, just rewrote the post you said you saw elsewhere!!

also if you are like me, when sites like this qask for details i always provide a fake email aqddress

Got a special one set up just for the occasion, only ever login if I need to verify the address!

 

[Deleted member 720373]

The only way I could see any profit in this is actually selling the connection at a very cheap price.

Who would pay though these days! Everyone from carphone warehouse to argos has free wifi now. Only way you could get people to pay is if they are in remote places with no free wifi, then you would have to pay for it yourself to be able to provide the service!

 

[mickyfu]

Who would pay though these days! Everyone from carphone warehouse to argos has free wifi now. Only way you could get people to pay is if they are in remote places with no free wifi, then you would have to pay for it yourself to be able to provide the service!

Well where I live with it being a tourist hotspot, and priced at something like €10 a week, I guess you would make money.

In your average town centre, I very much doubt it.

 

[Inception_AC]

Who would pay though these days! Everyone from carphone warehouse to argos has free wifi now. Only way you could get people to pay is if they are in remote places with no free wifi, then you would have to pay for it yourself to be able to provide the service!

A Hospital would be the perfect place!

 

[mickyfu]

A Hospital would be the perfect place!

Hospitals were onto this scam years ago. Charging ridiculous prices for WiFi and TV. Rob you of your last whilst you are dying.

 

[Sephrata]

Most major hotel chains charge for WiFi access.

Airports used to give you free access for a limited time period, then charge you. Most have increased this time limit now so most people don't pay. I don't follow the sitting in the car bit - Heathrow and Gatwick parking is too far from the terminal building to give WiFi coverage from a simple laptop card.

£300 a day avg for 3 hours work seems far fetched and there are lots of unanswered questions:

- Why will the OP not mention the ad networks that have approved this?
- Why will the OP not show evidence of earnings?
- Did the OP really use Adsense? I looked through their forums and people were banned years ago for this. Making 20% of your income from Adsense (£60 a day) through this method will surely have drawn their attention.
- Why would the OP not employ a small team to run this for him?

 

[Deleted member 720373]

In your average town centre, I very much doubt it.

I live in the midlands, the only tourists here are...... well LOST!

A Hospital would be the perfect place!

A couple of our local hospitals have either free wifi or a pay per day service already.

I was thinking about going really blackhat and pitching up nearby a local senior school. Only problems would be, getting them to pay and I would probably be reported as a local pervert spying on the school kids!!

Maybe a great idea for Charlie Floate??

 

[Bestindabiz]

Nothing is being stolen, the blackhat twist on this method is using an existing Wifi connection, then pumping out a new one and asking users to connect via completing a CPA offer.
If done from your own broadband connection, or from a 4g dongle, it's completely legit. The other blackhat twist is advertising a hotspot without offering any internet connection.

What would the process of advertising your hotspot without offering any internet connection look like?

 

[Sephrata]

Nothing is being stolen, the blackhat twist on this method is using an existing Wifi connection, then pumping out a new one and asking users to connect via completing a CPA offer.
If done from your own broadband connection, or from a 4g dongle, it's completely legit. The other blackhat twist is advertising a hotspot without offering any internet connection.

I think it takes a very brave person to say this is a completely legit thing. You are essentially making money through deception.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2016/08/public-wi-fi-forget-the-scare-stories-read-this/
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/fraud_act/

 

[Alaindeloin]

Most major hotel chains charge for WiFi access.

Airports used to give you free access for a limited time period, then charge you. Most have increased this time limit now so most people don't pay. I don't follow the sitting in the car bit - Heathrow and Gatwick parking is too far from the terminal building to give WiFi coverage from a simple laptop card.

£300 a day avg for 3 hours work seems far fetched and there are lots of unanswered questions:

- Why will the OP not mention the ad networks that have approved this?
- Why will the OP not show evidence of earnings?
- Did the OP really use Adsense? I looked through their forums and people were banned years ago for this. Making 20% of your income from Adsense (£60 a day) through this method will surely have drawn their attention.
- Why would the OP not employ a small team to run this for him?

Why OP did not pay us directly. We need to know.

Seriously, the idea is great, but please people, stop bitching. You have to find your how way to monetize it.

 

[tg01]

What would the process of advertising your hotspot without offering any internet connection look like?

Advertising is simply creating a unique and attractive Wifi Network name, the stronger the signal, the more people are going to see the network and connect.
If you are interested in doing it without or using someone else's network, look in to pineapple wifi - you can connect to a network and redistribute with a captive portal, there's no benefit to the user, though you'll be making a cut in between.

I will be offering internet connectivity, for my test / trial using my existing connection, then scaling up with 4g usb dongles.

I think it takes a very brave person to say this is a completely legit thing. You are essentially making money through deception.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2016/08/public-wi-fi-forget-the-scare-stories-read-this/
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/fraud_act/

Thank you for those links, much appreciated.

I don't intend to blackhat this, simply offer useful wifi hotspots with CPA / Video / Form completion to generate an income. So assuming data protection and sessions are stored all should be fine.

I'll place a set of terms and conditions together, and outline use of data. As for storing all sessions and where they visit, I'll have to do some digging and find out whether / how dd-wrt can post / store this data to a database.

 

[mickyfu]

Why OP did not pay us directly. We need to know.

Seriously, the idea is great, but please people, stop bitching. You have to find your how way to monetize it.

Is it really? You think spreading false hope via lies is great? People running out spending money on equipment (who can't really afford it) and end up being kicked in the dick is great? Just for a few forum brownie points?

You try and monetise this method without CPA, and you will be working for peanuts, not £300 a day, not £30 a day, probably not three quid a day.

Find your own way to monetise the method? Then why claim to be making 300 off Adsense and CPA. Both of which probably have fuck all chance of working?

 

[Deleted member 657006]

Well I would also like to know what ad networks would be fine with multiple offers from the same IP or if anyone can think of another less risky ways of monetising this. The idea itself is great but I fear the ad networks will not think the same.

Also, to complete an offer they would already require some sort of internet connection, I assume you are relying on them having their own 3g/4g connection to complete the offer before they can access your wifi network.

If I can find a way around the issues I have I can think of about a dozen places within a 5 mile radius of where I live where this could work, one of them is right at the back of my house so I wouldn't need to go far!

Becouse you got access to whatever at back of home ,your in a grate position to even master this whole idea setup tool softwere the lot ...

I wish you good luck ..

 

[tg01]

I live in the midlands, the only tourists here are...... well LOST!

A couple of our local hospitals have either free wifi or a pay per day service already.

I was thinking about going really blackhat and pitching up nearby a local senior school. Only problems would be, getting them to pay and I would probably be reported as a local pervert spying on the school kids!!

Maybe a great idea for Charlie Floate??

Love it - though pretty sure you'd end up on a register!

Is it really? You think spreading false hope via lies is great? People running out spending money on equipment (who can't really afford it) and end up being kicked in the dick is great? Just for a few forum brownie points?

You try and monetise this method without CPA, and you will be working for peanuts, not £300 a day, not £30 a day, probably not three quid a day.

Find your own way to monetise the method? Then why claim to be making 300 off Adsense and CPA. Both of which probably have fuck all chance of working?

As I've said, it's worth a try, and screw it I may end up with the best wi-fi I've ever had in my house for the price of a router.
Definitely not looking for peanuts - whilst they're great in a pub, I'd like something to pay for the pints. Let's see how it pans out.

 

[Deleted member 657006]

Is it really? You think spreading false hope via lies is great? People running out spending money on equipment (who can't really afford it) and end up being kicked in the dick is great? Just for a few forum brownie points?

You try and monetise this method without CPA, and you will be working for peanuts, not £300 a day, not £30 a day, probably not three quid a day.

Find your own way to monetise the method? Then why claim to be making 300 off Adsense and CPA. Both of which probably have fuck all chance of working?

Hope you all reading this , he not joking ....

 

[bmbsa]

Same question. How does the ad networks / cpa networks "play" with the fact that all your traffic is coming from a single IP ?

You will be suspended from Adsense if your traffic from the same IP!
The other concern is that you will never be able to get enough traffic to get that much of revenue from Adsense!

 

[bmbsa]

really wanted to use this method so i did some research on how to monetize this via cpa. here goes:

1. buy a repeater and router with ddwrt and connect them.
2. set up your landing page that gives 3 links to email submit offers. ask people to pick one and fill out to access free wifi.
3. park in a mall with lots of people and good wifi. power up the router and repeater through your car lighter. the repeater will let you jack into the mall wifi and the ddwrt will provide various ip addresses. this solves the ip address problem with your cpa network.
4. you can also make this portable by bringing all these in a backpack with two powerbanks to juice up the router and repeater. that way you can go around the mall or sit in a mcdonalds instead of your car.

Those are local IPs, the public IP will be the same