MukeshGBG Another Shady Freelancer Folks!

I had this guy upload wp themes and place adsense ads on my sites. Then I noticed 2$ in earnings on 1 of my sites that didnt have any traffic and I asked him if he clicked on my ads and he admitted to it followed by "sorry sir, wont happen again sir" I then put my adsense site development on hold for 2 weeks, I check the sites yesterday and notice one of them is filled with ads that are not mine (he still had ftp access). So basically he had his friends put their ads up on MY site and click on their ads. I have nothing against Indian freelancers, but its said what people will do for a few dollars and they ruin the reputation for all of you other Indian freelancers.

this guy just told me that those arent actual google ads...they are just examples because its an adsense wp theme LOOOOL

Be careful cream with adesense...
Cheerios

I Worked for 5 sites for this Guy, 2 of the site were done really good and he appreciated it,He gave me 50% upfront too.Then after the 2 sites are done he asked me to get a better adsense theme for his rest 3 of the sites and i found some 3 to 4 theme and installed each of the theme to all of the sites and activated 3 of the alternative theme to all of the 3 sites, Among which
SEOAdMax WordPress Theme Version 1.0 by Garry Conn
is also installed to one of his site.And when i check the site that its showing ads by default which the theme have then i asked Cream my client to view the site and let me know if he wants any modification or i asked him to start a thread in the forum somewhere to get a good theme and he agreed too.And after that in these days he never replied me back for changing the theme.
And Cream started threatening me that he knows Mods from BHW Harro and he will make me bann here and all. And he too created an issue at Paypal to get his money back.

And Cream told me one day that he got some clicks on his ads i don't remember it might me 9 click to his adsense and asked me if i have clicked on the ads, then i told him that i didn't clicked on the ads, After some sort of conversation he keeps on saying me that i clicked the ads then I though i may have accidently clicked on the ads,, And as he is my client i shouldn't refuse him so i told Cream i may have clicked on your ads while working, But not 9 time ofcourse, I know adsense as i am running it to 3 of my sites and i know the adsense guidelines and Rules ant all.
And started me threatening me that he knows Mods from BHW and he will make me bann here and all. And he too created an issue at Paypal to get his money back.
Here is the conversations of mine and Cream Today you can see it:-
me: hey there? Sent at 12:02 AM on Tuesday

me: U r nit replying not me

lushlife416: im here now
refund me my money
before i contact the mods on BHW
im about to make a thread in the shitlist section

me: I have done the work

lushlife416: NO
u fuckin exploited my sites
by placing YOUR ads on my site

me: I asked you 3 times u didn't replied

lushlife416: and having peopel click them

me: Thats not my ads buddy

lushlife416: thats cause i leave the house
unlike you
ok
i contact the mods
and make a thread
im also calling google
and paypal
bye

me: Thats not my ads thats come with the theme
U can check the theme
I asked u many times for the setting of all for those rest 3 sites but u never replied in days
U r not at all good at dealing

lushlife416: they are not my ads
so wtf are they doing on my site

me: Its not my mistake and u always threaten me

lushlife416: i clearly told you
NO ADS
till i rank
so wtf are u doing
PLUS you clicked my ads

me: I didn't put any ads thats a sample

lushlife416: and you admitted it
LOL
THATS NOT A SAMPLE

me: U don't understand

lushlife416: if u click on them
they lead somewhere
you think im fucking retarded?
you had your friends click on them
and you made money by exploiting google

me: This i smy publisher id for adsense [Sorry i need to edit this because of security]
Check it if they are mine

lushlife416: ok
they are your friends then
i dont give a shit
all i know is.... THEY ARE NOT MINE
so what are they doing on MY SITE>
???

me: I too know that they are not mine

lushlife416: WHOS ARE THEY THEN AND WHY ARE THEY ON MY SITE?

me: U told me to show some theme which have side bar on left side
and i showed u 3 theme and then u never replied back

lushlife416: i didnt get any msgs

me: Then u should have told me
But u never contacted

lushlife416: why are their ads on my site?
ok
im odne talking
its action time
bye

me: I always replied ASAP

Sent at 12:11 AM on Tuesday

me: And i have done my all of work

lushlife416: lol bye
i gave u a warning
you think im joking...
so we will see

Sent at 12:15 AM on Tuesday

lushlife416: last chance to give me my money back before i contact harro

me: Go and contact whoever u can
Thats not my fauklt
I always asked you to help you

lushlife416: you didnt care about my site
all u cared about is my money

me: I did care

lushlife416: it will now might get blacklisted
for exploiting the adsense policy

me: it will not

Sent at 12:19 AM on Tuesday

me: And one thing,its u who didn't cared for my service, i have done all of my work and u were not replying and thats not my fault
Go to Hell

lushlife416: LOL

me: Ya its LOL for you

lushlife416: look at your life
LOL is on you

me: Ok thanks for your cooperation
You were very polite to me and u make me done and did whatever work you like and now sacamming me
I sthat what you do with all of your service provider

Sent at 12:23 AM on Tuesday

lushlife416: remove those ads

me: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...mukeshgbg-another-shady-freelancer-folks.html
I can see it and will surely resolve this
which site?

lushlife416: cleansinggehttp://cleansinggel.net/ftp4/
http://cleansinggel.net/ftp4/

me: And i will likely want to say thats not my ads again

lushlife416: then its someone u know
cause u had the ftp access

me: You gave me all the details
So you too know

lushlife416: and?
is that a threat?

me: No not any threat

lushlife416: so why u say "so you too know"

me: I don't change admin access without the permission of my client

Sent at 12:32 AM on Tuesday

lushlife416: so if i didnt put up the ads
and only u and me had access...
its obviously YOU
stop playing stupid

me: I told you its come with the theme by defaultly as its a adsense theme
How can u don't understand
?

lushlife416: AHAHAHAHHA

me: You are making me crazy

lushlife416: do you think im new to this?
it comes by default
LOOOL

me: Good either you are crazy Or i am being made by you

Sent at 12:35 AM on Tuesday

lushlife416: you are very stupid and a really bad liar

me: I didn't lied to you ever

Sent at 12:38 AM on Tuesday


I can show more conversations of me and Cream if you want.And too my adsense Pub Id which he is claiming of mine and i am clicking on the ads and violating the Google rules.

cream said:

I had this guy upload wp themes and place adsense ads on my sites. Then I noticed 2$ in earnings on 1 of my sites that didnt have any traffic and I asked him if he clicked on my ads and he admitted to it followed by "sorry sir, wont happen again sir" I then put my adsense site development on hold for 2 weeks, I check the sites yesterday and notice one of them is filled with ads that are not mine (he still had ftp access). So basically he had his friends put their ads up on MY site and click on their ads. I have nothing against Indian freelancers, but its said what people will do for a few dollars and they ruin the reputation for all of you other Indian freelancers.

Click to expand...

BigBuddy: Where are yooooouuuu??

cream said:

this guy just told me that those arent actual google ads...they are just examples because its an adsense wp theme LOOOOL

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I think every member here dealing with an adsense theme know that an adsense theme come with all setting of Google ads and you just need to put your adsense pub Id and thats all, but Some of the member might have used
this adsense theme:- SEOAdMax WordPress Theme Version 1.0 by Garry Conn

Now i want to know from you members and mods if i am lying to my client Cream.
This theme show ads to your site when u install it.

so how wouldnt i be suspicious about this site last site having random ads...? if you admitted clicking on my other sites ads (that has 0 traffic) which is obviously illegal.

Is this a case for taking the service provider for a ride? hmmm..... or may be not...

There are better people here who can see through what the whole thing is about!

Many Adsense themes come with embedded adsense code. Simple solution, get the entire original theme from the internet and look for the code that is on the OP's site... if they are the same then it's a open and shut case... against the OP, else if they don't match then a real investigation follows and may be the service provider (SP) gets exposed (but at this stage I don't doubt the SP's good intentions in letting the Adsense code stay on the new site and get OP's approval for how the ads displayed -- IMO, it was needed for the very purpose of the site being Adsense-enabled or whatever it is called...). IMO. From where the clicks came? Only G can tell that! May be the SP clicked or may be the OP clicked... can't (and may be, no one can now) make out who did it so easily.

I checked the link to that theme (I tried only the "Digg" theme by that creator www(dot)digsem(dot)com) but unfortunately the site is expired now or is for sale and there is no theme there, of course. ... So I would like to know what the exact theme was, and may be I or anyone else can find a copy of it on the net somewhere... I believe that the creator gives the themes free, but am not absolutely sure.

Correction: OK I know now that the theme is SEOAdMax WordPress Theme Version 1.0 by Garry Conn. (Which indeed is a free to use theme).

If it is possible to get the original zip file from the net, then we can get it and check the A.code against the code that is present on the OP's site. There is a method to check the files minutely and see when they were updated. a tedious process, but it can be done.


P.S.:

Most of the sites are unable to locate the original file, but I ultimately found one here >>
OK, will see if it has any embedded Adsense ID in it first.

OK, result >> there indeed is an Adsense embedded ID (inside a txt file which comes up to the pages thru php code. Fine...

So What is the actual A.ID on the uploaded site please? Give it to BigBuddy if you don't want to disclose it here, or just write the first 3 digits and the last 3 digits here. It wouldn't breech any security or anything similar, IMHO.

I will then provide the actual Adsense ID that is embedded in the original downloaded file. Or may be anybody else can see the txt file enclosed in the zip and check / match the ID themselves.



Let's do these initial tests first, OK?

If the SP did change the Adsense ID in the text file, then it can go against the SP... I mean, what was the need to change the ID when another ID was already present there originally. For the test / approval purpose, any ID, even the embedded ID would have been good enough, which could have been changed later after the approval.

And then, if the SP actually didn't change it, then who did it? That would be the next 64M dollar question.... hmmm....


If the SP did change the Adsense ID in the text file, then it can go against the SP... I mean, what was the need to change the ID when another ID was already present there originally. For the test / approval purpose, any ID, even the embedded ID would have been good enough, which could have been changed later after the approval.

And then, if the SP actually didn't change it, then who did it? That would be the next 64M dollar question.... hmmm....

srb888, I sincerely appreciate your efforts for getting involved and trying to find out the truth.

edit: if he is telling the truth, i will provide an apology etc...

Funny thing happened. LOL

I saw that cream had given me a "Thank You" just before I edited my above post for the last time! I don't know exactly for which edit he gave that thanks but only saw it at that last but one instance and just after I reedited that post his Thanks is gone! Why? of course I never go after any thanks from any one, but it just came to my notice and something flashed inside my mind then...

In fact, I edited and re-edited my post many times as I was find things on the net and was giving the results.. hence I re-edited that post on many occasions...

Wonder why and what caused him to take away his thank you?
Can provide the screen shot for the same... want those shots? check those timestamps too.



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Hmmm... hmmmm... hmmm.... LOL

Not coming to any conclusions by those though! Just wanted to show you some magic that happened! Thanks came, and then went! And I was able to capture both things... lol! That's all!


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Funny... (I had re-edited that post, check the timestamp) and now it has come again! WOW! I am not a drinking type, of course! But I think I should take a walk... hmmm... hahaha


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cream said:

srb888, I sincerely appreciate your efforts for getting involved and trying to find out the truth.

edit: if he is telling the truth, i will provide an apology etc...

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Thanks again! But there is no need to apologize in a hurry... . Let's come to the truth first, then a lot can be done by one of you 2, and let's, of course, allow BigBuddy to decide first.

Of course my above post (2nd on this thread by me) isn't "The Conclusion" of any sort still.

P.S.: about "edit: if he is telling the truth," ... well, you did seem to be very sure initially as seen in the conversation with Mukesh, but not now?


Poor guy Mukesh, I think he has retired to bed... but why not?... it's 3:15 AM here in India. But why call him "Poor Guy", may be he is innocent after all... or may be not.... or may be, yes... hmmm....

srb888 said:

Thanks again! But there is no need to apologize in a hurry... . Let's come to the truth first, then a lot can be done by one of you 2, and let's, of course, allow BigBuddy to decide first.

Of course my above post (2nd on this thread by me) isn't "The Conclusion" of any sort still.

P.S.: about "edit: if he is telling the truth," ... well, you did seem to be very sure initially as seen in the conversation with Mukesh, but not now?

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I didnt apologize. Im still fairly certain that something like this would be right up his alley... Just like clicking my ads, cause I told him there would be more work for him if I seen some results.

Fine! Well said!

OK, just give us the 1st 3 digits and the last 3 digits of that Adsense ID on your site, can you please? Or send it to BigBuddy in a PM, no probs absolutely. Take care, please do not edit any of those php files as well as that txt file on your site though at this stage unless absolutely necessary. IMHO.

I also just noticed that my other site has 2 different adsense IDs...

screenshot taken....

The 301**********080 ID is exactly ( as far as the info given to me by Cream in his PM,) the same as embedded in the original downloaded text file. which is 30167xxx...xxx6080

So IMO, Mukesh the service provider is INNOCENT on that count.,.

BTW, Cream, you didn't gave me the other two themes' names where you mention those two other "shorted" A.IDs.What are they? Are those themes exactly same as that 1st one above?

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Of course, dear Cream, please preserve the entire details to convey them to BigBuddy or any other Mod who will handle this thread later.

Or better still, please do not send me any PMs from now, as it may create confusions during the actual investigation by the Mods. This is a ShitList matter and hence you should only disclose the details to the Mods, or as posts for everyone to see and judge.

So do not send any PM to me...


P.S.:

I'm off to bed now... 4:03 AM here...

P.S.: Couldn't sleep as this thought kept scr3wing me lol >>>
Just my 2 cents >>>
Dear Cream, do you now want to apologize and pay him (if not done so until now) on the basis of above findings, at this stage? If you want to do so, then you can go ahead... I would love to see it and say God Bless!

OK, off to bed... 4:18 AM.

Already paid him, but not gonna apologize till I see whys theres 2 different ad IDs on another site he worked on.

OK Guys, another report here >>>

In spite of asking Cream not to send me any PM's, he did send it...
The theme of his other site uses Prosense-Blue, a very famous theme which even I have used it in the past.

I noticed 2 different A.ID's on it, and so I found the actual theme (Prosense-Blue WP Theme) on the internet and downloaded it. The original php files in that zip file does have the same A.ID as present on Cream's site --> The original theme has this ID 1199xxxxxxxxx649 and Cream's site's one ID matches it exactly ---> 1199xxxxxxxxx649 as seen on Cream's site, hence the conclusion for this one too is that Mukesh hasn't changed the original code. IMO, Mukest is INNOCENT on this count too.

But wait...

I said I found 2 different A-IDs on the same site.

So that 3rd ID (in short) is
7817xxxxxxxx208

TBH, the above ID is not present in the theme's original files so this ID is a suspect.

We will let Mukesh explain this part... For him, may be 2/3 can be still bad enough...


Before asking Mukesh, I would like to ask Cream whether this is his own Adsense ID or not?

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OK, Mukesh is INNOCENT on 2 counts, but that 3rd Ad-ID is a suspect. May be he can still explain the reason...


Now the hardest part for me >>>


Hope I didn't intrude with BigBuddy's job in doing these tests, but if I did so, then dear BigBuddy, I am extremely sorry to have intruded ... and if it calls for a ban for me then I would welcome it.

God Bless!

Well, it's 5:15 AM, so I don't know if I should go to bed, or get up to begin the new day!


P.S.:

Dear Cream,

I haven't clicked on any of those ads even once; OK?

That was exactly my point, but this is ShitList and someone had brought a case here... TBH, I wanted to find Mukesh clean and yet the thread demanded justice, may be a bit harsh or even a lot ruthless.... So....

Hope I was impartial ...

Its not about the 2$ its about my sites potentially get ****ed before they even make any money so its the money i paid him, domain money, article money, off site SEO money and my time researching the niche (which is the most valuable)