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Youtube Video Ranking (Question(s) and a bit of a personal journey)

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  1. Zamboanga

    Zamboanga Registered Member

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    Hey y'all,

    I am writing this post to ask for your help and in return exchange a bit of my experience with you guys. I make a few bucks with youtube and PPD (about 1-25 $ a day depending on the traffic).

    About two and a half months ago, I read about content locking on the internet and decided to try it myself and immediately had some small successes with it. I recently wanted to further increase my earnings and started to read a few guides and journeys on this forum and realized that despite the few bucks I make I am still a total newb who just got a bit lucky.

    What I did, for anyone who is interested in it, is that I simply created a somewhat decent looking landing page on blogger and looked my content through the services of adworkmedia.
    Then I made three youtube videos (nothing too fancy really, basically just recording my screen, writing on notepad...) to draw traffic.

    So from my own personal experience I can say that the right niche is the most important thing. I know it's always easier said than done but the key element is really offering sth. which people are really desperate for. It's actually not that hard if you think about what you are actually really really desperate for...on the internet...and I am not even talking about adult stuff..;)...but that is as specific as I will get here.

    As an advice: if you're working with adworkmedia or cleanfiles, (the best ppd services imho) I can tell you that one thing that helps to gain more is looking for all the featured campaigns and then search for the countries which make the most money.

    Then you need to make a youtube video in their specific language (including keywords, tags etc). You don't even have to speak the language perfectly, it's enough if you have basic knowledge of the other language and then use the keyword tool + google translator (If you have a landing page it can even be in english if it is neat and it's clear what to click).

    Or alternatively simply find native speakers to do it for you. My native language is German e.g., but neither the german speaking nor the english speaking countries have that many high paid campaigns, so I simply made a video in Spanish and in French (I don't speak spanish and my French is awful :D) and whenever I get traffic from this countries it's quite a lot.
    Though of course on youtube traffic for these countries won't be as high as that from englishspeaking countries, but if you can find a way to increase it, their campaigns are certainly way more profitable than e.g US campaigns.
    But in here lies also my big problem: I recently failed massively in terms of my youtube video rankings and of course this has affected my earnings as well. :(





    Therefore I'd like to ask you for advice: Has anyone of you maybe noticed a drastic change in the youtube ranking algorithm as of earlier last month (approximately).

    What is really really strange to me is that about two months ago(in may) I didn't have any problem at all ranking my videos on the first page of google within a relatively short time. I used U2bviews and ytmax to boost my views and to add likes, subs and favs and I could see my videos going up the ranking page almost right away. THey even ranked on the first/second page for three different keywords I targeted!!!!

    I have to say that especially ytmax was great in boosting my videos immediately, which was however very strange to me because high retention views were already the new thing on yt for a while, everybody was saying that high retention views were indespensible for high rankings, yet I had excellent page rankings through ytmax, although its "high retention views" turned out to be not exactly what one can really call high retention (maybe 25%)... but strangely enough they worked wonders for me....

    Ok so far so good, but it was earlier last month that the ranking of all my videos dropped massively and I was not able to rank anymore through the services I used before, besides, it became impossible for me to rank them for more then one keyword as they don't even appear anymore on the pages for a second, let alone third keyword!!

    So about three weeks ago I finally decided to use high retention views for one of my vids (10.000) and boost it as well with likes etc.... but the strange thing was that what actually happened was that the high retention views boosted my video up a few ranks immediately but then it ranked worse than before (by far)...Damn!...

    but then I thought ok maybe it was just a bad coincidence, so I tried to do the same with the same video this week (10000 HR views again) and again the high retention views boosted my video up (even one page this time) but then I ranked again worse then before (even worse then the first time i used the hr views) .

    And then last but not least, the very very bizarre thing that happened to me is that a video I uploaded two month ago and which I kinda forgot about and left completely natural and unboosted, ranked suddenly (that is during the time when my boosted vids started to go down) very very high for its keywords.

    The keywords for which I rank are all average competitive I'd say, it was very easy for me to rank for them before, so the difference can't lie there. Also the views I bought are almost 100% high retention and are distributed quite naturally over days, so the problem is definitely not that my views are of low quality or anything!

    This now leads me to the suspicion that youtube has recently implemented some changes, so that it somewhow detects when the views of videos are manipulated (they may even look at small anomalies, in my case, because my video was already around for a little while, it may be a sudden change in the overall percentage of retention)...I did a few experiements this week and all somehow point in this direction.... E.g. I uploaded another video this week and left it completely alone for three days (keywords again are average competetive), and it now ranks on the second page while my high retention videos seem to climb down the ladder, although their keywords are not at all more competitive!! :O :O


    sooo I'd like to know as well: has anything similar happened to anyone of you? does anyone think as well that youtube did change something? If not why does it happen only to me if it worked so well for me two months ago and I didn't change anything at all in terms of my methods (except for the high retention boost everyone recommends so highly).

    Yet, to me the greatest mystery of all is why ytmax with their half-assed retention views has really pushed me up so high for several weeks (their free service is down atm btw!)? HAs anyone here worked with it as well?

    I started to read a lot of threads here concerning youtube ranking btw. and I know now that a combination of complex factors figure into yt ranking, at least that's what the pros say. But then somehow I ask myself why so many people are reporting a great succes in ranking just through view boosting and like boosting alone and maybe some subs and favs (if any at all)...

    And, if all these various factors, one apparently needs to pay attention to in order to rank well, are really essential (like the many great advices one reads everywhere on how it is soooo important to choose the right keywords, with the right title, tags, video description, links etc) why did I first rank so well for such a long time two months ago without paying hardly any attention to keywords whatsover
    (except maybe for a good title, though i didn't even use a keyword tool for nearly all of of my vids i.e. the english ones) and why is the only video with which I am ranking well now the one which doesn't even have a proper description and only very few not well thought out tags and the title is not that great either....

    Is youtube just a game of luck? for me it somehow seems that way ...:S
    Sorry folks to bother you with all these questions and sorry as well for the very long message, but I really tried out everything I know and now this whole thing is starting to drive me completely cuuuuraaaazyyyyyy!!!

    Also I figured I might as well share a bit about how I started my journey plus what little advice I can offer, if I am writing you to ask for some!

    I'd really appreciate it if anyone of you could provide a solution or even share their own problems/experiences with yt ranking, so far I have mostly read threads were the ranking went quite smoothly for people after they bought hr views and all, so I am starting to think i must be the only fool here...

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    sorry, i just couldn't finish reading
     
  3. YouTubez

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    Please format it a little bit better. :)
     
  4. phowell23

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    Skimming over this post is like going out on a date with a girl that just keeps talking...and talking...and talking.

    Summarize your questions please.
     
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  5. Zamboanga

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    ok, thanks youtubez and sorry, my formatting could certainly have been better! But to the others: honestly it's highly alarming that most of you online kids seem to lack the ability to read lengthy and wordy texts and are nowadays too lazy too understand sentences that are longer than your average 5 words. How were you able to understand Nietzsche and Co when you went to highschool? Oh right, you probably never did because your brain was stupid enough to think it was just a girl rambling on and on....but ok I will come down to your level...(it's not my language anyway) and try to make it very clear from now on:

    My question was: What did youtube change with regard to its ranking algo recently? I summarized all my other questions relating to that main questions already.
    They are at the beginning of each of my paragraphs as they should be. Not very hard to understand if you are capable of reading. Like reading, like the real reading like you know...
    like proper books without paragraphs and pics on each site and stuff (ya know they really exist but psst don't tell, it's very scary...)
    Granted I could have simply asked this one question. But at the moment it seems to me that youtube's ranking system has gotten way more confusing and complex.
    Even waaaaay more complex than it had been several weeks ago. Why do I think this exactly? That's in my previous post.
    That's also why I got into all of the tedious details above. To provide an extensive analysis for everyone who may have experienced a similar problem.
    And I just heard from some others on another forum who experienced the same thing. So now I am almost positive that high retention views, likes etc don't work as they used to.
    You can't get to page 1 or 2 of google that easily anymore. And I am sure that some other things on youtube don't work as they used to, too (Sth. regarding the keywords has changed as well).

    So to all those who are working with yt video ranking: Why don't you make your own experiments and tell me if you have come to the same conclusion?
    I just want to be sure that it's not just me and a few others who are having this problems with ranking! In this way I can better get to the core of the problem.

    If nobody wants to help me with this, fine. I will move on to other forums, no prob. No big deal. I kind of expected this negative, cocky attitude anyway. Particularly from this place. Seems to be this place's signature tone. OK, I'll gladly replicate this attitude for you as you can see here.

    But for those newbs who still want to know how one could make their first daily bucks: The first part of my above message is basically all I did. Nothing more. Nothing less. Read the words slowly and it will make sense. Then take it or leave it :p But that's exactly what did the 20$ trick for me.


    Cheers
     
  6. francis1017

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    Hello there!

    Are you from Philippines?

    Anyways I am just too lazy to read your questions so I'm gonna say that upload more quality videos linking to a decent landing page then acquire retention views for all your videos with good title, description and comments. Just use the search button for tutorials..

    Goodluck kabayan!
     
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    Look at top youtube Let's Players and then go into ahrefs and find out about their social signals. Go look at their retention on time watched, etc. Now go to the BST section and look for a provider that can meet your needs. Take the top 10 Let's Players for that keyword, check their data, and then try to mimic it. I have seen and actually ranked videos with just High Retention Views, Likes, Comments.
     
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    Too much text. This is boring.
     
  9. Zamboanga

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    francis 1017
    yes, I'm German but half pinoy :) Thanks I will try the thing with the landing page.

    But the thing why I wrote so much text was to prevent people from giving me the same old, same old obvious tips like blablabla, high retention, keyword is important, good title, description dadada.
    And so that I would not have to explain over and over again that I know and did all this stuff already!! And yet, I still have to explain all of this tediously, because some here can't read.
    I for my part have read almost all the tutorials. Cause I am not a lazy reader like apparently most guys here. That's why I had to write so much because I did all that what people said would be essential to rank.
    And a lot of things were not exactly true (for me at least). But most of all, all lot of these things simply do not work anymore as of recently.
    I tried a lot, as I said. Sorry but apart from blackhat seo people here seem to be not the brightest...

    I'ts true that some videos rank high on retention, like etc... But when i look at youtube most of these videos are older than two months.
    If you analyze videos, which just came in you can see that most of them rank high very quickly, but than they fall down just as quickly.
    The only ones which seem to rank high on retention steadily have 100.000 views plus and loads of likes (that's a lot of money you would have to spent) and they don't even rank very high on the first page.
    As I said, before the yt changes, I ranked on page one for several different keywords within days just by running my videos through ytmax for FREE.
    Now there must be some new ways to rank them on the first page and first spots of yt without spending huge amounts and without relying on random luck...
    Other Ideas?
     
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  10. Zamboanga

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    Sorry garrido, but if this little text already bores you because you think it is too long, you need to get a proper education! No one who visited a regular school or has a normal sized brain can think that this text is too long. Or you just have ADD, in which case I'd feel really sorry for you because it's a serious sickness when people can't focus on big amounts on information anymore (especially if the info doesn't seem relevant to them)...you're still there? probably lost you after the tenth word...
     
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    Failure to read your post has nothing to do with education. I have a degree from UCLA and I still didn't bother to read your post.

    You are on an internet marketing board.

    First rule of marketing, grab the readers attention.

    Whether it be via websites, videos, or some other advertising medium, you won't sell anything if you don't engage your audience.

    So in that respect, you failed miserably.

    Paragraphs and spacing are your friend. Good luck.
     
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    Try to make your points/posts in less than 200 words!
     
  13. rettaibi

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    Maybe you are the one that doesn't understand they meant that the text is hard to read you should have made your Original Post like this.
    BTW why do you attack them they are here to help you but you didn't make it easy for them people are here to make money not to read your wall of text.
    something you should think about.

    this is what you should have done:


    I am writing this post to ask for your help and in return exchange a bit of my experience with you guys.
    I make a few bucks with youtube and PPD (about 1-25 $ a day depending on the traffic).

    About two and a half months ago, I read about content locking on the internet and decided to try it myself and immediately had some small successes with it.
    I recently wanted to further increase my earnings and started to read a few guides and journeys on this forum and realized that despite the few bucks I make I am still a total newb who just got a bit lucky.


    What I did, for anyone who is interested in it, is that I simply created a somewhat decent looking landing page on blogger and looked my content through the services of adworkmedia.
    Then I made three youtube videos (nothing too fancy really, basically just recording my screen, writing on notepad...) to draw traffic.

    So from my own personal experience I can say that the right niche is the most important thing.
    I know it's always easier said than done but the key element is really offering sth.
    which people are really desperate for. It's actually not that hard if you think about what you are actually really really desperate for...on the internet...and I am not even talking about adult stuff..
    [​IMG]...but that is as specific as I will get here.

    As an advice: if you're working with adworkmedia or cleanfiles, (the best ppd services imho)
    I can tell you that one thing that helps to gain more is looking for all the featured campaigns and then search for the countries which make the most money.

    Then you need to make a youtube video in their specific language (including keywords, tags etc). You don't even have to speak the language perfectly, it's enough if you have basic knowledge of the other language and then use the keyword tool + google translator (If you have a landing page it can even be in english if it is neat and it's clear what to click).
    Or alternatively simply find native speakers to do it for you.

    My native language is German e.g., but neither the german speaking nor the english speaking countries have that many high paid campaigns, so I simply made a video in Spanish and in French (I don't speak spanish and my French is awful
    [​IMG]) and whenever I get traffic from this countries it's quite a lot.

    Though of course on youtube traffic for these countries won't be as high as that from english speaking countries, but if you can find a way to increase it, their campaigns are certainly way more profitable than e.g US campaigns.

    But in here lies also my big problem: I recently failed massively in terms of my youtube video rankings and of course this has affected my earnings as well. [​IMG]


    Therefore I'd like to ask you for advice:

    Has anyone of you maybe noticed a drastic change in the youtube ranking algorithm as of earlier last month (approximately).

    What is really really strange to me is that about two months ago(in may) I didn't have any problem at all ranking my videos on the first page of google within a relatively short time.

    I used U2bviews and ytmax to boost my views and to add likes, subs and favs and I could see my videos going up the ranking page almost right away. THey even ranked on the first/second page for three different keywords I targeted!!!!

    I have to say that especially ytmax was great in boosting my videos immediately, which was however very strange to me because high retention views were already the new thing on yt for a while, everybody was saying that high retention views were indespensible for high rankings,

    yet I had excellent page rankings through ytmax, although its "high retention views" turned out to be not exactly what one can really call high retention (maybe 25%)... but strangely enough they worked wonders for me.

    Ok so far so good, but it was earlier last month that the ranking of all my videos dropped massively and I was not able to rank anymore through the services I used before, besides, it became impossible for me to rank them for more then one keyword as they don't even appear anymore on the pages for a second, let alone third keyword!!

    So about three weeks ago I finally decided to use high retention views for one of my vids (10.000) and boost it as well with likes etc....
    but the strange thing was that what actually happened was that the high retention views boosted my video up a few ranks immediately but then it ranked worse than before (by far)...Damn!

    but then I thought ok maybe it was just a bad coincidence, so I tried to do the same with the same video this week (10000 HR views again) and again the high retention views boosted my video up (even one page this time) but then I ranked again worse then before (even worse then the first time i used the hr views) .

    And then last but not least, the very very bizarre thing that happened to me is that a video I uploaded two month ago and which I kinda forgot about and left completely natural and unboosted, ranked suddenly (that is during the time when my boosted vids started to go down) very very high for its keywords.

    The keywords for which I rank are all average competitive I'd say, it was very easy for me to rank for them before, so the difference can't lie there. Also the views I bought are almost 100% high retention and are distributed quite naturally over days, so the problem is definitely not that my views are of low quality or anything!


    This now leads me to the suspicion that youtube has recently implemented some changes, so that it somewhow detects when the views of videos are manipulated (they may even look at small anomalies, in my case ,because my video was already around for a little while, it may be a sudden change in the overall percentage of retention)...

    I did a few experiements this week and all somehow point in this direction....or I am doing sth seriously wrong!!!!? E.g. I uploaded another video this week and left it completely alone for three days (keywords again are average competetive),
    and it now ranks on the second page while my high retention videos seem to climb down the ladder, although their keywords are not at all more competitive!! :O :O



    sooo I'd like to know as well:

    has anything similar happened to anyone of you? does anyone think as well that youtube did change something? If not why does it happen only to me if it worked so well for me two months ago and I didn't change anything at all in terms of my methods (except for the high retention boost everyone recommends so highly).

    Yet, to me the greatest mystery of all is why ytmax with their half-assed retention views has really pushed me up so high for several weeks (their free service is down atm btw!)? HAs anyone here worked with it as well?

    I started to read a lot of threads here concerning youtube ranking btw. and I know now that a combination of complex factors figure into yt ranking, at least that's what the pros say.

    But then somehow I ask myself why so many people are reporting a great succes in ranking just through view boosting and like boosting alone and maybe some subs and favs (if any at all)...And, if all these various factors, one apparently needs to pay attention to in order to rank well, are really essential (like the many great advices one reads everywhere on how it is soooo important to choose the right keywords, with the right title, tags, video description etc)

    why did I first rank so well for such a long time two months ago without paying hardly any attention to keywords whatsover (except maybe for a good title, though i didn't even use a keyword tool for nearly all of of my vids i.e. the english ones) and why is the only video with which I am ranking well now the one which doesn't even have a proper description and only very few not well thought out tags and the title is not that great either....

    Is youtube just a game of luck? for me it somehow seems that way ...:S
    Sorry folks to bother you with all these questions and sorry as well for the very long message, but I really tried out everything I know and now this whole thing is starting to drive me completely cuuuuraaaazyyyyyy!!!

    Also I figured I might as well share a bit about how I started my journey plus what little advice I can offer, if I am writing you to ask for some!

    I'd really appreciate it if anyone of you could provide a solution or even share their own problems/experiences with yt ranking, so far I have mostly read threads were the ranking went quite smoothly for people after they bought hr views and all, so I am starting to think i must be the only fool here...

    Thanks in advance!


    I myself didn't read it yesterday I started I stopped because It was just a wall of text. This looks a little better IMO.
    But to answer the questions.

    Yes they have changed something and you can't rank a video on google with just views and likes you need backlinks too.
    I think google has changed something In their algorithm and I am trying to figure it out.
    see my thread:
    Code:
    [URL]http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/573211-youtube-page-optimization.html[/URL]
    and see this thread:
    Code:
    [URL]http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/549184-videos-not-showing-search-unless-you-type-exact-title.html#post5776101[/URL]




     
  14. Zamboanga

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    1. Having a degree from UCLA doesn't necesserily mean that you are cabable of reading. The way they translate and reformat foreign texts for students and make long study texts managable for you at a lot those US unis is sad and ridiculous and reflects a lot of the stupidity that is going on here right now. Degree or not (Not saying that's the case for everyone and not saying I am the smartest, I am not)
    But paragraphing and spacing is not everything. I know that they tell you that over there, but that's also why a lot of you are no longer able to read more elaborate texts, which don't rely heavy on formatting. And fyi, paraghraphing should not accur after each sentence, that's just a structural crime!

    2. I know where I am. When I wanna target stupid, naive people on the net to make my money, I indeed rely on very short, attention grabbing text. Just couple o' words.
    I thought this was not necessary here, you're not my money w hores, I do not need to grab your attention.
    I just was hoping for very long helpful report as well from someone who would answer not just because his attention was grabbed.
    Because I saw that some here were capable of it.

    3. I have read a lot of stuff here. And I am not the only one who writes very lengthy texts with little too much information. But really these texts were usually the most helpful ones!
    I honestly do not know a lot about seo and stuff, but when I made my first money it was the posts with too much information that help me to reach my goal.
    The very short messages here like yours which were succinct and seemingly to the point, were not very helpful at all, just opinionated c r a p that doesn't help someone who is new to the game at all.
    So it's you who failed miserably in this respect. Granted I am responding with the same attitude, but honestly with the nice welcome new people here usually get it's not completely unfounded...

    But thanks for explaining the first rule of marketing to me, that was really very very helpful...not...
     
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    You see, my previous post was short and to the point.

    Thus you were able to read it, digest it, and respond to it. That's how marketing works.

    Good luck.
     
  16. Zamboanga

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    yes thank you! Actually that would not have been a problem at all. I could just have asked "What can I do to rank my video on the first" page.

    But then I would obviously have gotten the same old responses, telling me to use the search function and keywords...well -meant but not exactly true.
    Obvisouly I was stupid enough to not foresee that when I write more, I still would get the same old responses, ironically asking me on top of that why I would write so much other stuff??

    under 100 w...
     
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    No, because that's not your real question. IMO you would have received a much better response if you simply asked your question like below in your original post:
    I have not used U2bviews or ytmax however I do use several YT services advertised here in BHW and I have not seen any real change in ranking my YT videos. For example, I use skittles's viralsocials service. However, I also use these type of services in combination with backlinks all at the same time. I'm not sure if you are doing the backlinks part.
     
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  18. Zamboanga

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    Thank you so much. actually your confirmation was the answer I was hoping for. Already saw the second thread.
    But the first thread of yours was actually very useful! Now that I know for sure I will make my own experiments.

    Honestly, I don't think formatting was entirely the problem with this post. It's still as wordy as before. The thing were mostly the long run on line sentences which a lot are not used to anymore.
    But I concede that it is also a country specific thing, coz paragraphing after each sentence is like anathema to us. Yet I'll gladly comply to your suggestion as I am the new one. (In the next post ;))

    But I find it funny that you think that I am the one attacking everyone when seriously the first responses I get were not posted to help at all, just to be condescending even though my first message was basically written very nicely.
    I mean I am not the first newb who gets treated that way, there are countless of other threats here which reflect that.
    And there are even threads asking why a lot of members here talk to first posters in that rude way.
    I didn't come here to fight. I responded nicely to those who were and condesecndingly to those who were. That's it!

    If people have a problem with e.g. the structure of a post it can be said in a polite manner. There is NO need to react with snarky, blunt comments right away.
    I do realize that this is just an anonymous marketing forum on the internet, but then people don't need to feel attacked either when some of the rudeness comes back at them.

    Also I posted my message the way I did because I didn't want to post the standard "Hey guys I'm new to marketing. Need your help please.
    Now tell me how I can rank my video on youtube asap" and then goodbye. There are already countless of other threads like this on the net.
    Instead I wanted to give the tiny amount of what I know back before asking something. I made this also very clear in the post. But sorry if it came across int he wrong way.

    kk just to clarify...
    thanks anyway, got what I searched for ...good things come to those who wait...:D
     
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  19. rinor4ever

    rinor4ever Junior Member

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    It's not problem about length of the text but the problem it's about text format. Add more spaces and new line cause we have problems to read the text.

    About the questions: I haven't tried YTmax but I don't belive that the problem it's at the views of YTmax, You know YT will not rank vids just by counting views, likes and comments (from my experience comment's are more important than all the others). Now IF you have your videos up with all your views try to add just backlinks and check results after 2-3 days.
    YT change algorithm but the can't change all the process, still the older tricks are working.

    And just one question that I forgot to say: Is your main keyword the YT Title?

    If not these days you will have very hard to rank for...
     
  20. Zamboanga

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    You see, my previous post was long and not attention grabbing.

    Still you were able to read it and did respond to it. And unlike you, I respond to every c r a p here, as you may have noticed, now that I'm bored coz my business has stalled for a while ;)

    And come to think of it now, my thread here already got way more responses than all the other short newb posts about the same topic, which were just going for very clear and simple questions... the way you suggested it.

    Among all the rubbish responses I got was even a quick winner. But posts like yours may look great for marketing, but they are usually empty platitudes, not helping at all.

    Remember that there are also people out there who are not just buyers and 'mouse clickers'.

    But as we can see from here, the one thing you obviously need to learn about grabbing attention to get to your goal is that it is obviously not mainly about structuring and shortness:
    It's about creating controversy (intentional or not) That's how (show) business works darling :D

    But thanks for wishing me luck anyway!