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YouTube Copyright Question - Involving Videos

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by charliebne, May 28, 2008.

  1. charliebne

    charliebne Registered Member

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    Hello there partners :)

    I feel like trying a little youtube CPA stuff with re-uploading videos and stuff.. Now.. could I get in legal trouble for uploading copywritten material to youtube?

    Like, could the police come and arrest me because my account has 50-60 re-uploaded videos and youtube reported this to them? Just asking cuz i like to be safe.

    If so, Id be better off using a proxy everytime I use Youtube, or even my neighbors connection xxx

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. snowwhite

    snowwhite Power Member

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    just be picky in choosing the videos you will be reuploading
    stay on the low profile ones, no to tv shows or movies

    you are totally safe
    the worst that could happen is your video being deleted or account being banned, or your CPA account banned due to spamming

    im a video marketer myself
     
  3. charliebne

    charliebne Registered Member

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    are you doing well snowhiite? with youtube marketing?

    Ima start this thursday, see how it goes :)
     
  4. snowwhite

    snowwhite Power Member

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    doing very well
    im using videos mainly to SERP
     
  5. tattoo

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    but there are like millions of videos that are movie clips and tv clips and they've been there for months or years, so youtube isn't doing anything about them.

    are you saying it's just a problem when you put a watermark on?
     
  6. Siek

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    You might wanna check out this from Ruck's blog..using exact method. Easiest video marketing ever. lol

    http://cashtactics.net/01/22/making-money-with-ringtones-scale-it-up/

    There are thousands of people who just rip watermark and reupload. I highly doubt you get into some serious trouble unless you stand out from the rest.

    Expect bans and video removals.. thats pretty much it lol
     
  7. punn3301

    punn3301 Junior Member

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    Well, I've been doing the YouTube video stuff for what is rapidly closing in on 2 years now. For some reason, no one seemed all that interested in the method before, now it's what everyone is doing.

    Listen if you're taking copyrighted content, the worst that is likely to happen is YouTube will kill your account. Um...if you have a hard drive big enough to store a ton of video - all you need to do is start a new account and upload it again.

    Certain videos, TV shows, movie clips are always erased faster than others. Certain companies are very quick to protect their property and have teams that search for the stuff and contact YouTube to take it down.

    Others....not so much.

    I've never had a CPA network give me any problem. I mean, on what grounds exactly could they? I guess if I was posting copyrighted content they might want to distance themselves from me, but the risk is low, I think most CPA networks realize that, so they don't seem to fuss about it. Now if a CPA network, just one, gets any sort of legal action against them from a big media outlet, then you might see some networks start caring real quick.

    Don't worry about the cops. Your biggest worry would be a cease and desist. If you get something like that, just be smart and comply. I highly doubt that will happen unless you start hosting content on your own site.

    As long as it on YouTube, for now at least, the worst thing that is going to happen is YouTube will close your account for uploading illegal content.

    Keep this in mind, as you learn the ropes just doing the blackhat stuff, be smart and have an even bigger picture in mind. Too many blackhatters think only short-term.

    There are tons of whitehat opps out there in the expanding world of online video.

    Take what you learn doing the blackhat content-ripping stuff and apply it to something more whitehat or grayhat.

    I'll tell you what, a good whitehat video on YouTube can make a lot more cash than most, maybe all, blackhat ones do.
     
  8. CyberDilemma

    CyberDilemma Regular Member

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    That was some very practical, useful information, punn3301. Thanks for taking the time to share all that.
     
  9. punn3301

    punn3301 Junior Member

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    No prob.

    Someone PM'd me and asked me how I monetized on YouTube. I'll post it here. It's been covered before partially, but maybe I can fill in something for someone new.

    I started doing Clickbank and Adsense. Adsense, you say? Yep, I'd slap a MFA(made-for-adsense) site up and link to it from a related video and basically just trap my visitor. I'd buy a domain directly related to the video so people would have more incentive to click on it. Ran me $8 but increased clicks thru to my site and I usually made the $8 back in a couple days.

    Then after the Adsense stuff didn't work as well, I moved over to CPA. At first, my results stunk but that was because I was trying to do too much.

    Linking to a site with a bunch of different links. I figured, more options means more money. I was wrong. Now I focus on getting browsers to do ONE thing - one thing that makes me money when they do it.

    In the process I've also learned alot about YouTube and how things work. Which has helped me do some more WhiteHat ventures using video.

    Most of the people on YouTube are clueless as to how to make money from their efforts. Did anyone see that South Park episode with all the YouTubers? They are f-ing clueless.

    Someone with some creativity who also knows how to monetize can do well with YouTube and other video sites. Whitehat or Blackhat.
     
  10. tattoo

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    punn3301, can you give us examples of whitehat videos?
     
  11. punn3301

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    Well, I'm not going to give out any of my links. Sorry. I'd rather keep my "blackhat" status a secret.

    My advice would be to think product reviews. And not just digital stuff like Clickbank ebooks.

    For the most part, some of the stuff I see people doing on YouTube is pretty tame and probably closer to White Hat then maybe they even realize. Shooting a Camtasia vid about a Clickbank ebook and then linking to it isn't really all that blackhat if you ask me.

    Stealing content is blackhat. Trapping browsers who click on your link is blackhat. Uploading porn and raunchy material is blackhat. Spamming comments is blackhat.

    Shooting your own review videos, even if they are just Camtasia screen vids or vids with still pics in them is White Hat. Making "commercials" and uploading them is white hat.

    Be creative, entertain, and inform. And then give a link, even if it's an affiliate link. Nothing blackhat about that.

    This is NOT me but here is just an example someone with the right idea - and I'm sure BHW dudes will dig it.

    http://youtube.com/user/tunaflix2

    Dude has an awesome idea that is getting him a ton of views. But isn't smart enough to put a live link that someone can click on in his description.

    Still a cool idea. Also a great way to approach and meet some smokin hot broads. Seriously, find some girls, shoot some vids like this, link to your site - hell you might even get lucky and get laid.

    There's a million ideas for YouTube. I only WISH YouTube had been around when I was in college. My buddies and I had our own little public access TV show we did for fun, would have been an amazing outlet for us to put some crazy videos on.

    I don't think most people even realize how YouTube changes things. If you put out freakin' kickass content, you will get attention.

    I bought a camera that ran me a little over $3k. I paid half cuz I split the cost with my buddy who's a teacher, but makes extra cash every summer shooting wedding videos and birthday parties and shit. Just using that camera I've easily made 10 times what I paid for it. Probably more like 20 times.

    Creativity is key. But if you're not a creative person, hire it out. Maybe you have some friends who are funny and creative. You can find some talented people with real acting "training" who will work cheap. Put an ad on Craiglist if you live in a bigger city. You'll have a buttload of people interested most of the time.

    Wow. This post is WAY too long. To sum it up, just pay attention and try to think a little differently. Really take a close look at YouTube and understand the potential it has.

    No longer is video limited to just television - which was almost impossible to get on or very expensive to buy advertising on. YouTube and other sites are NOT. Pretty crazy stuff when you really think about it.

    Browse around YouTube take a look at what other people are doing, search niches, pay attention. There is so much opportunity it's insane. Think big.
     
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  12. tattoo

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    i was waiting for the chick to show some mor skin. where be the rest of this video???!

    lol.

    thanks for the tips
     
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    Sorry for this lame question -

    Linking to a site with a bunch of different links. I figured, more options means more money. I was wrong.
    What do you mean ? Care to share pls ?
     
  14. wmitchell003

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    I want to know what this means as well?
     
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    Every single eyeball on your site is money so once you get someone there, you don't want tons of links because the mind will wander and sometimes people will say .. screw this.. too much stuff on this page. But, if you direct the person to a page with jus one link (the link to your cpa offer or whatever), then now you have a 50/50 shot of them proceeding. The other way, the odds are a lot less because of how the human mind works... i think.

    Makes sense though. If you break it down to simple math (as long as you follow the premise that you want to help focus the user and not drown them with options that may un-focus them) Instead of clicking your $1.25 cpa offer, they might click a $0.03 adsense click and close the page.

    Is my thinking correct ?
     
  16. punn3301

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    Right on...
     
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    I'm pretty sure uploading content you don't have rights to reproduce is copyright infringement in the ol' US and A. Do it enough you will find yourself on the lubed end of the RIAA/MPAA's cock. Enjoy. That means they can and will file a civil suit against you and take what little earnings you've made by whoring their copyrighted materials.. :(
     
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    Well I guess they better get the lawyers because there are thousands of people doing this!
     
  19. razohad

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    i just searched youtube for ringtone and let me tell you that i dont think that youtube/google have as many lawyers as thy need for that and from what i saw its not only thousands of people but much much more.
     
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    i think youtube is the one with the liablility because they're hosting all the files. and the RIAA etc would far rather sue YouTube (Google) - -with its deep pockets than some sad piker trying to make a few bucks