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You really want to know why you dont rank in 2018 ?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by polwest, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. polwest

    polwest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    i will make this clear once for all and this is the pure reality.

    You want your video rank well or go suggested ? This is VERY SIMPLE.

    You need SUBSCRIBERS Views, even if you get a lot of REAL views fast you will not rank well & go suggested. Of course did it some time but not on hard keywords.

    The explanation is very simple :

    I made a lot of test with different channels and there are the results :

    Channel 1 With 8K Subscribers pretty active

    1000 VIews in 1 hour after the video has been posted few comments likes share.

    Channel 2 500 subscribers

    Around the same amount of views but not from subscribers ( external source but REAL VIEWS ) real views from a forum. i even get the 1K views faster on this channel without subs.

    Results :

    Video Channel 1 : number 1 on very hard keyword, suggested everywhere and more than 100K VIews because it has stay ranked number 1 on hard keyword for enough time.

    Video Channel 2 : rank pretty well in page 1 for an hour but from the moment new people will post videos with few subs the video will de rank. after that the video stayed around 2K views and never get suggested, and not even in the search terms. i repeat this is real views with good retention after check.

    Also i reached the 8K subscribers in only 1 month so this point is important too, if you have 8K subscribers in very long time old subscribers will not even be notified by when you post videos so you will not get enough traffic to launch the video already had this problem.

    Hope this well help ;)
     
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    Awesome advice, hopefully a panel starts to sell a subscriber + subscriber views combo or something like that.
     
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  3. polwest

    polwest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    This is exactly the point when it comes to buying views in 2018.
     
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  4. TehVigilant

    TehVigilant Junior Member

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    what kind of forum is that?
     
  5. graphhhh

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    Did you know service selling subscribers + subscribers views?
     
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    thanks OP for the post, and thanks to the guy that sent it to me, this is very interesting, it make a perfect sense that youtube will give more weight to channel community (subs) driven views, i suspect that the video was also with high quality and very relevant to the subscribers and i also guess that you got medium to high retention on the ranking video, yes?

    anyway this is a good idea to start a lab test and make a unique service out of it.
     
  7. Whateverest

    Whateverest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Will fake subscribers put some weight too? Or they suppose to be real and watch your videos? Thanks.
     
  8. YusufPrince

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    Thank you for sharing this, I never thought of getting much views are important
     
  9. dream1er

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    the real reason is watch time, which no one can provide.
     
  10. bartosimpsonio

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    Nice post OP. Same thing happens for links now. Since Google tracks everyone around like lab mice, they know which links are legit and attract action. Links are no longer static, if they aren't clicked they count against you.
     
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    I agree that watch time is much more important. I also think that being in the suggested videos is the next most important things ie: utilizing similar keywords and title of popular videos and showing up in the right sidebar.
     
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    Interesting what do you think @royalblue22557 about this? Did you use this method?

    I dont tell your method is wrong but, why some have about 200 subscribers and rank #1 then?
     
  13. mysticparadise

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    Why not? There are HR views that can provide 5 minute watchtime. So unless you're planning to add massive 1-hour videos, I'd say this covers most of the video length.
     
  14. polwest

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    if watch time is the most important how do you explain for the same watch time one video goes viral and the other not ? This help but in no way the main reason. I never said you cant rank with 200 subscribers but for only very low keywords.

    Watch time can be relevant when you post 1 Hour video when competitors add a 3 minutes videos, thats it.

    you are all right, very relevant & quality video and around 70% retention for each video.
     
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  15. AlwaySeo

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    Btw now we need to find a person who can provide these kind of views..
    If someone find hit me up.
    @thenextgen1 Check that too, you'll find it interesting I think ! :)
     
  16. polwest

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    Remember this is for ranking fast on high competetion keyword.

    Of course you can rank a 1 hour video on a low competition keyword on medium term and then the watch time is interesting. in other case no.
     
  17. TehVigilant

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    Retention on case 1 and case 2?

    Saying good retention means shit. What are the sheer values? And the watch time total also.
     
  18. polwest

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    you still dont understand ? same video lenght for each same retention same watch time.

    for short videos. 2-3min.

    i never seen in 2018 a video ranked within 1 hour with 200 subs on a high competition keyword and ranked long term ;)
     
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  19. kromik100

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    Where do you buy those views?
     
  20. polwest

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    like i said i dont buy views, only real views.