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You know what is shocking? Billion Dollar Valued Internet Companies that are clueless

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mmichael, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. mmichael

    mmichael Junior Member

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    Don't know how to secure their brand and property on the internet.

    Absolutely shocking to me that companies can have thousands of employees and millions of visitors a day and can't implement basic procedures.
     
  2. bgrry

    bgrry Newbie

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    what are you talking about?
     
  3. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yea, like what?
     
  4. mmichael

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    What I mean is not owning all possible web domains, facebook pages, twitter accounts, etc for their brand.
     
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    Like....???
     
  6. ExecutiveCloser

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    spill it what should we be making money on! lol
     
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    They have lawyers for that. And lawyers tend to make more money suing domain squatters than they do getting paralegals to register company-name for every Web 2.0 site that crops up.
     
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    Repeat after me: opportunity cost.
     
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    Here's what's going to happen.

    1. You spend months building it.
    2. Just as soon as you start making money, you receive an email from a lawyer demanding that you hand over your site to the copyright owner.

    Voila! You did the hard work for them!
     
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    Exactly, this is what happened to me. I had a domain name that is VERY valuable to a company, they somehow let it slip and became available. (this was before domain expiration auctions / drop and the like). I got so excited, started building a site, until one day I got a package in the mail around 400 pages thick with their case against me. I wanted to try to fight it, but knew I'd lose. So like you said, my efforts ended up being for nothing.
     
  11. mmichael

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    Agree with the Opportunity Cost argument above for sure.

    Big difference between Web 2.0 profiles/accounts on other companies vs. domain name. The worst that happens on a web 2.0 site is that you have your account closed -- definitely no legal ramifications if you register the account correctly and use a vpn to access in my opinion.
     
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    @DesignEx -- did they pay you for the site? What was the result? Did they make you turn over the site to them or what?
     
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    I think he has been drinking..
     
  14. Expertpeon

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    Trademark law is hilarious.
    It's nearly impossible to win any suit unless it's a clear brand (mcdonald's etc)

    Let's say hypothetically 30 trademarks exist where each brand name is a different variation of a psuedo drug name.

    Hydrocodone, hydrocidine, hydrocodin, hydrocodene or whatever, trademark suits in this realm are almost ALWAYS tossed in court due to "no reasonable differentiation in branding"
    It's pretty funny actually... trademarks suits are a huge waste of money (especially going after black hatters)
    I guess they hope they stumble across some dumbasses who settle for thousands with just a letter?
    What in god's name can a two-bit law grad do to a domain registered in Hong Kong? durp. That's right, nothing at all.

    You cannot squat a domain name through trademark...
    Secondly, you should have registered it overseas.
    You should read up on this. Also what you received in the mail wasn't a case filing, it was a scare tactic.

    Blackhatter fear of the law is one of the funniest things. ALL of this stuff falls under civil suits (if registered under an LLC, personal members have asset protection).
    Hell, at best trademark suits end in injunctive relief, and no fines/penalities (unless a huge burden of proof is demonstrated, which no reasonable person would offer their opponent anyway).
    At worst (and usually what happens) the suits are tossed after expensive court battles.
     
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  15. BigMarcusStud

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    We all know that we can find legal loopholes to fight it. But still, it's still a boatload of hassle to fight it.

    You have to hire a lawyer, talk to him about the case, etc.