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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by vielmehr, Dec 17, 2009.

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  1. vielmehr

    vielmehr Newbie

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    What is it that is currently on my mind?
    I've been doing this advertising, SEO and whatnot for a while and... well at best there are earnings about 0.03 and 0.30 dollars per day. I mean, obviously people who'll get huge amounts of money are in this business respectively have been in this business for ages and ...you know a lot of people write about this topic in a very.... well unclear respectively unsharp way. I have absolutely no doubt that some of them actually have millions of dollars. But I doubt that those are the people who are writing here or somewhere on the Internet.

    There's absolutely no clear structure in this business. You have absolutely no proof, that anything anyone is offering for whatever amount of money is actually working for me. Of course this is absolutely normal in real life, but it especially applies in this area.

    I guess you have to come back to what you would do. Would you feel motivated by what you were writing to motivate others to act in a special way? Would you click your ads?

    Some recommend to me to use auto blogging to create the impression of population within my blog. But I mean as soon as I get that this is an automated blog I won't come back again of course. And I don't click on ads anyway.

    All these methods are entirely shortsighted and many people on this board are quite young and might not have had the experiences I have.

    I mean, I have a real business. No Internet shit. A real store with real goods. And using this method is like putting a robot at the point of sale and hoping that no one will notice it.

    I mean there are so many lies within this field of work. Especially lies about money. I mean the only young person I trust in having a huge amount of money is the founder of Facebook.

    And I guess everyone is trying to earn a little bit of money by using someone else's greed.

    Maybe I just don't have an overview maybe I'm totally right.

    I'm interested in your opinion about this whole stuff.
     
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  2. Gibbzee

    Gibbzee Regular Member

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    Tbh, i dont really believe anyone on the internet until they show me proof or i speak to them in real life, there is a lot of fake people around because they can hide behind their internet persona.
     
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    Summed it up well. Find what works for you and your business and just stick at it. Long term approach and a focus on actually building/putting things in place than just trying to scam people.
     
  4. vielmehr

    vielmehr Newbie

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    I agree. And they try hard to prove that they earn things like using fake bank statements as I happened to see 2 hours ago. This dude actually used some internet bank statement and put in his numbers by html editing. How lame is that?

    And what is more, why would anyone want to share his knowledge whose business is really working. I mean why would he want anyone else to know it? No author could tell me that in a convincing way.
     
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    Here is some proof for you. Maybe it will serve as motivation to others. I recorded this video while posting a thread here on this forum (here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/143520-blackhat-advertising-its-best.html ). I did that to
    A: prove it is my video and
    B: to prove that it is a real video of my internet (if you watch the video you'll understand what I mean)

    Best watched in full screen at YouTube so you can read the screen.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B5MQKJF-oY
     
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    Not in your wettest dream...
    There you go, I don't have any better answer than that. See if you're already raking thousands of dollars daily. You wouldn't reveal your own cash-cranking method yourself. Even blackhatting takes hours of hard work. The difference is this grabs money faster than WH methods but with shorter term. Way shorter sometimes.

    I'm sure nobody would say that earning big numbers is as easy as flipping a coin, but if I were those internet gazillionaires, I'd shut up and keep the golden goose myself.

    My two cents in this is, find your own method, scale it like there's no tomorrow, and look at this thread later when you already drive your SLR McLaren out of internet dollars :D
     
  7. Moneymaka

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    A lot of the people here don't earn as much as they pretend to.
    But there is money to be made with the internet though. I've read somewhere(I think it was forbes) that there was a young kid, i think around 20 years old who earned 500k a month with affiliate networking.

    The founder of Facebook is just one example, but there are so many 16 year old kids earning so much more than what you earn in a month, but you just don't hear about them. For example, the founder of ClickAgents, who was 16 years old when he first created the company, and by the time he was 18 he sold it for $20 million (or was it $40 million?)

    There are so many out there who have created an internet company, worth atleast 1$ million, but like i said, you don't hear much about them unless they have enormous success.

    This "internet shit" is worth more than you think. Google is a billion dollar company, but hey, it's just internet shit, right?

    But the percentage of people here creating a million dollar business like that...well, it's probably never going to happen.

    edit: Oh and the founder of Facebook, i don't think he's making any profit.

    Conclusion: You are infected with ignorance.
     
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  8. vielmehr

    vielmehr Newbie

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    What does scaling mean in this context?

    Moneymaka, I wrote "Maybe I just don't have an overview maybe I'm totally right."

    I got agreement in both parts, so you agree about the first part. You are wrong, I am well aware that those people exist, but they won't tell you anything. And those who tell you ain't rich (but become because you buy their books).

    What is in for me or you if you know that some 16 years old became rich with affiliate marketing and you have not a single clue how he did it? And this is what my rant is all about and what I am alluding to when talking about "internet shit".
     
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    vielmehr Newbie

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    So what is in for me? Motivation? How should someone else's bank account motivate me?
     
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    Maybe it won't motivate you. Some people are motivated by seeing that another "regular joe" is making money online...good money, and more importantly, that they are telling the truth about it.
     
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    Fine, let's continue this thought of yours. So I see your clickbank statement - I think "Interesting, this crazyflx dude having a voice tone of a 16 years old opens a clickbank - account (maybe his, maybe someone else's) and shows how much money the account's owner made. Nice color this clickbank site has, maybe I'll pay it a visit. Oh what did he want to tell me? That he or someone else made that amount of money....so could I. Dude I 'll immediately become a member of clickbank. But hey I am already a member of XY and I am earning just a few cents each day. What can I take out of this video now? Well it does not impress me as I don't make that amount of money at XY. And XY is just like clickbank, simply another name. I do not know how the owner made this amount of money. So why would I want to waste my time with thinking about this video any longer. Maybe he or the account's owner got rich but that does not fill the bank account I created for online earnings. So fuck it."
     
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    Hey asshole, nobody's going to spoon feed you into the whole internet marketing thing.

    We all started without knowing anything about Internet Marketing.If you're too lazy to use google and find out how to make money on ClickBank, then log out and go fuck yourself, you fucking parasite.

    So stop whining and start learning. And your cynical attitude isn't going to help you with anything.
     
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    I am not infected by other peoples beliefs therefore i consider myself free of that lie.
     
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    Give the guy some slack worms, someone report this mentally challenged inflamatory kids to mods, really i am starting to hate this forum for imbeciles like moneymaka(just who with iq over 80 would have this nickname) sigh, i miss days when internet wasnt poluted with so many retards.

    Yeah i am flaming as well, someone finally writes you a post that is supposed to help you and you ruin it with slime, pathetic
     
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    just keep that thought, all I gotta say, less competition = more money for us

    offcourse a lot of ppl lie about their earnings, but there is a lot of really valubale info on this forum, trust me
     
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    Here comes the internet hero.
    If you took the time to read what he's saying, you would notice he's not helping anyone, he's just complaining.
    But no, you had to come in here and pretend like you're the good guy saving us from the bad guy, without knowing what we're talking about. Good job.

    And since we're busy attacking eachother personally, it's "inflammatory".
     
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    ok seriously? I may be misunderstanding your post, but are you trying to tell people who are making money on the internet that they aren't making money on the internet? Trust me, people make money on the internet. I personally don't make that much (especially compared to some people) but I know as a fact that you can make tons of money.

    First of all, don't buy ebooks. If somebody has a method that makes good money, they aren't going to sell it for $xx. You are right when you say that you can't trust everyone on the internet. But it is kind of common sense not to buy the "Make $9000/per day EZ at home money making system" ebook for $37 or whatever.

    Second of all, about autoblogs and ads. You don't just have 1 autoblog. You make a bunch of autoblogs and then it all adds up so you can actually start making a descent income. And people DO click on ads. That is how Google makes BILLIONS of dollars.

    and third, I would just like to point out that it is kind of stupid to think that everyone on this forum is lying about income (even though there are definitely people who do). And the reason people share their methods on BHW is because they give back then they can help someone else and if everyone shares some information then everyone can learn and collectively grow richer.

    Maybe IM isn't for you. Maybe you should go work for Facebook or something.
     
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    Trusting you? Kidding me?

    Sure go ahead if you want to make a useful post out of it: What is useful here for you?
     
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    tacopalypse Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    well one thing's for sure,

    if you truly believe that you can't make money on the internet, then you're absolutely right. :)
     
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    vielmehr Newbie

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    I truly believe that you can not make enough money to make a living by promoting others' products via internet.
     
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