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Yes, you can recover Penguin. Here is how.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by atentat, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. atentat

    atentat Junior Member

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    I recovered 2 sites from penguin (not today but the last penguin).

    It is recoverable.

    The way to do it:

    1. Get a list of ALL your links (use majestic + WMT, not ahrefs or OSE or any other mickey mouse link index)
    2. Disavow em on domain level. If not sure -> disavow
    3. Build new links from legit domians with high PR with RANDOM anchor text and 0 KW in anchor text

    Last step is cruicial. To do this you need to pay good sites to link to yoou.

    Like a hospital site ;)

    Nevermind relevancy or "in content" links. Go for sidewide links, even image links. Only thing that counts is that the domains are super legit. Relevancy doesn't matter.

    Here is what it may look like (this site reached 80% of its previous revenue, increasing weekly):

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    Pro tips:

    Use majestics historic index, not fresh index
    Clean up keyword stuffing and anything related to panda
    Build lots of powerful new links (those arent fee and cost money)
    Watch WMT on next penguin refresh, if you see a spike in impressions it means you are released and simply need new links.

    Hope this helps some of you. It took me 1y to recover 2 sites. One reached 80% pre penguin revenue, the other 50%.

    Linkbudget for the first: 1500 EUR a month
    Linkbudget for the second: 800 EUR month

    So to sum it up: The splution for penguin is BUY MORE LINKS (expensive ones)
     
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  2. SEO Power

    SEO Power Elite Member

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    Anyone with a similar experience?

    I don't try to help penalised sites recover. I just take them down when I discover that they have been penalised. Sometimes I 301 them to a new domain for some extra short-term gains.

    I used to think trying to lift a penalty off a domain is a waste of time because I could rank another site within the time it would take to remove the penalty. But now that it is taking so long to rank sites high in Google, I'm starting to think it's worth the time.
     
  3. rogerke

    rogerke Regular Member

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    Hate to break your bubble dude, but you didn't recover from Penguin at all. Since Penguin only refreshed today and your site started soaring a couple of months ago, you either recovered because of other algorithms and/or because of your new linkbuilding strategy.

    All Penguin recovery stories before today are complet bullcrap. Sorry to be so harsh, but that's just the way it is.
     
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  4. atentat

    atentat Junior Member

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    I recovered on previous penguin.

    I havent seen many recoveries from penguin, so I understand your scepticism.
     
  5. Adrian112

    Adrian112 Supreme Member Premium Member

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    Penguin is not illnes, so you can recover, it is update.

    And if your site is bad it will drop you, and belive me, those who are saying their site is not bad but it is dropped, they are wrong.

    Google spent billion $$$ on their updates and I can say that probably some of the most inteligent guys are working on these updates, so, your site is bad and you are bad site maker.

    Cheers
     
  6. maverickbiker

    maverickbiker Registered Member

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    Ive recovered twice from penguin.

    I can help anyone do it and my method closely matches the op. It will however cost you!
     
  7. wizdorf

    wizdorf Regular Member

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    Sorry to be rude but what? You 301 penalized domains? Why in the world would you do that?
     
  8. Penumbra

    Penumbra Power Member

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    So SAPE is the way to go?
    And u said to not put in anchor your exact keyword u target, does that mean to do LSI or what?
     
  9. rogerke

    rogerke Regular Member

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    With all due respect, but John Mueller himself said that Penguin only refreshes with every new update (which was today), so you did not recover from Penguin. Period.

    What probably happend though is that you recovered from other algorithms and/or your new linkbuilding strategy worked.
     
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  10. wizdorf

    wizdorf Regular Member

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    Amen brother! You aren't recovering from Penguin except for refreshes.

    But John Mueller is more disconnected from reality than anyone at Google. Can't trust much the guy says.
     
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  11. Riposte

    Riposte Junior Member

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    Waiting a year to recover a site is a terrible waste of time. That amount of time itself is worth tens of thousands of dollars, maybe even millions if you know how to start from scratch.

    If what you did is what it takes to recover from this update, then it's not worth it at all.
     
  12. charto03

    charto03 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    so here is my 2 cents. You can recover any site by cleaning up the mess that is not rocket or panda science just common sense. If you take the time and money you spent on the old site and put that into a new site would you have regained rankings and traffic faster?

    I always like to have a few sites going at one time and if one gets dinged you got a few more on deck and can push them with the strategies that are to be.

    It's about diversity did you recover because of new links or because of the newest update?
     
  13. wizdorf

    wizdorf Regular Member

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    This guy didn't recover from penguin. That was never his problem.
     
  14. donsiemen

    donsiemen Junior Member

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    even on a low or medium competitive kw?? just to rank it, it would take time as you said in your above post??
     
  15. anil2006

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    1 year ? Dammn ... I did recover my site in just a month . One year waiting time is just too much for me . Instead of disavow the links ask link seller to remove his links if he can . If you could remove around 30% link then you are good to move forward .
    And yes step 3 is very important : making new links from high authority sites and only with naked URLs .
     
  16. atentat

    atentat Junior Member

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    With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    1. there have been like 5 refreshes so far
    2. on refresh the penguin releases you, but you wont see immediate rankings until you build new links.
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I've found its too much work trying to recover a site, might as well move on to the next one.
     
  18. rogerke

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    Dude, you really started to recover this July. There was no Penguin refresh then. Ergo, you didn't recover from Penguin. Do you even logic?
     
  19. wizdorf

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    I agree if you are spending your own time doing it. No serious SEO or site owner should do the cleanup. Just like it's a waste of time to build out PBN's or content yourself as well. As a business owner you should be focused on the strategy and not the implementation.

    That's why there are link removal services to help with the process.
     
  20. atentat

    atentat Junior Member

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    You dont magically recover on a refresh. You do after you build new links.

    You would know that if you ever recovered a penguin site.