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Xrumer: How many livelinks should you see per successful posts?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Ranko Jones, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    So currently I have 27k successful but only 6k livelinks when checking in SB.

    Is this normal? If not what livelinks ratio should I be getting per success ratio?

    I suspect the list may be to blame but wanna hear other opinions 1st.

    Wow. Just running some lists from previous xrumer blasts services I bought. What a difference. About 50/50 success rate. Now I know what was to blame.
     
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    1 try a bigger xas-ai for more sucess
    2 use elite private proxys
    3 use yahoo.co.uk without spam proteccion for email verification
    4 launch hrefer to scrape better linkslist
     
  3. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Alot of ppl are saying hrefer is crap and scrapebox is better for scraping. thoughts?
     
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    No, hrefer > SB, esp with new updates.

    hrefer multiple footprint x multiple keywords
    SB single footprint x multiple keywords

    So hrefer you can just get a large range of links in one harvest, while with SB you have to do each footprint at a time.

    Your live links I presume are actually profiles not successful posts. Reason for only 6k live links out of 27k profiles made: 1. many forums require login to view profile, so link checker obviously can't log in, while the G bot in many cases CAN log in, and 2. the profile doesn't allow link. More cases it will be no 1 (private profiles vs public).

    XAS AI files don't really help THAT much, even the best will give you maybe 10% increase in rate. Botmaster has improved the default XAS file a lot in the latest version too, as well as CAPTCHA OCR which increases success rate further.

    Yes of course it will seem a bad trade off but that's the whole process of filtering for good targets. Save your profile list and you can use it in the future instead of blasting through 800k again!
     
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    Solid advice jb2008 -

    I'd say that 6k out of 28k isn't bad at all assuming its a randomly scraped list and you have stock xas file, not even including what your doing for proxies.

    How are you currently scraping your lists?
     
  6. Ranko Jones

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    Well if you read the OP this was NOT a stock list and I don;t have the stock xas.

    I haven't scraped my own yet...

    This list is what the guy I bought it off gave me who said it was a great list.

    As I said I tried a list from previous xrumer services I'd bought and saw about a 50% success with those so that was good to see cos I know I can do alot better rather than that being all xrumer is capable of.

    Hmm, about the comment of G bot being able to login, so you're saying I should index these links? cos I'd just been throwing them out since I presumed if they are private then they are worthless anyway as G won't index them. What makes you think G can login?
     
  7. jb2008

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    Of course you have a stock XAS file. It comes with XR as default. The XAS_AI file on the other hand, you buy from people, and most of these are generally overrated.

    Read my other post regarding realistic xrumer success rates.

    Well, there is some debate as to whether 'private' profiles make any difference at all, but yes, the G bot can log in to many forums and crawl them.
     
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    You = have the stock XAS file

    While you may have bought a list that was claimed to have great results, that doesn't mean that it will today.

    As more and more lists are bought and sold, more and more spammers are hitting the forums hard. That means eventually the list will die. Reasons lists die are because hosts shut down servers for using to many resources, owners quit paying domain registration and let the domains expire, owners give up to the spammers and delete the forum, etc.

    MOST forums give different rights to the Google, Yahoo and other bots to allow them to crawl and index the pages. A good way to tell if the bot has access to different subsections of a forum is to visit a page/profile page on the forum, if it asks you to login then check the Google cache of the page. Google cache will tell you whether or not they have access to these "restricted" pages.
     
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    i think this ration are Good ; 27k profiles , and 6k are public
     
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    I think 6k/27k sucks tbh. So basically approx 20% public? That means if we blast a "massive" 100k list we only have 20k profiles actually visible. In terms of whether G counts private profiles or not, we basically have to hope for the best.

    And yeah, LinksLists die over time as forums change, go offline, change security questions, change captchas, change CMS etc. That's why you have to harvest fresh.
     
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    Are you sure about that? I can't accept that sweetfunny would overlook such a simple feature. I haven't used sb in a couple weeks so I don't recall.


    Also, you fail to mention that unlike hr sb can dig backlink sources from yahoo site explorer with the extra plugin. Hr can't do it and with the snail's pace with which hr development takes place I don't think it will do that anytime soon. Conclusion, sb is better than hr for scraping imho. The featurelist is astounding. Maybe it's not as stable at high speeds but featurewise it's the champ now.
     
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  12. Ranko Jones

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    Ye I think you can do multiple footprints in fact I've done it many times, you just press space bar and enter your next one in.

    I'm not sure about this 'lists diminish over time' reason for my list being so crap.

    I say this because I tried using the livlinks from all my other xrumer blasts which I paid for and did a run with those, which are much older than said list according to the guy, and I got like 50% success rate.

    This was good to know so I can work on getting my own decent lists. Anyway for whatever reason his list is absolute junk and I am just doing my 1st run with refer now.

    With refer I like how it dedupes as it goes. Always disappointing with sb seeing your 1mil list destroyed to a few hundred k after dedupe.

    I'll prob play with both to see which one suits me best.
     
  13. jb2008

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    If you enter a footprint in the footprint box followed by a space it will still be of the same footprint. For example if you search for "powered by crap powered by bh" its not the same as "powered by crap" (line break) "powered by bh". We're talking raw scraping here, not about lists of extra features.

    Yes, another key feature of hrefer is on the fly deduping, which is invaluable for large lists. Over time you will see that hrefer is an industrial shotgun scraper, scrapebox is a consumer sniper scraper with nice extra features.

    Personally I save months upon months of time using hrefer now. I used to have to harvest each footprint one at a time, merge and dedupe large text files (100 mil plus total) set up SB again for the next footprint, etc. With hrefer, I load up the footprint list, load up the keywords, add my own proxies and I go. Occasionally I refresh proxies from my sources manually, but that's it.