XRumer Experiment #4

Well, I'm back at it trying different things with XRumer.

This time, I tried to do an XRumer run using a zlink list (general forums I assume, so they were not targeted for my keyword) of about 500,000+ from a member here on BHW and doing a normal looking "hello, i'm new here" post with the signature featuring the link to my page. I spun the signature link with about 5-10 keywords generated in Google's External Keyword Tool related to my site but the URL I used was always to my main domain. Also, I used my main domain as the URL in the "website" field for the profile.

I didn't want to create too many new links because even though I have done some heavy backlinking for the site and it has been around for more than 8 months now, I didn't want to risk a lot.

So, I stopped XRumer after it had successfully created 20,000 posts. Here are all of the stats:

Successful (20,067), Part.Succ. (41,932), Profiles (42), Activation Required (355), The rest (31,491)

One nice thing about zlink lists is that they go fast! Usually I get a posting rate of 150-200/min with a normal link list... but with this zlink list, I was getting posting speeds of 800+/min! Plus, the number of failed attempts was far less, too.

Last night, while running the XRumer run, I checked my site's stats for some main keywords (Google/Yahoo/MSN Live):

Keyword #1: 7/9/4
Keyword #2: 14/13/21
Keyword #3: 22/-/12
Keyword #4: 20/70/8

These keywords are fairly competitive and I have hit a wall since they are no longer responding to the Angela's and Paul's links that I have been creating to get them to where they are now.

So, I did the XRumer run last night and went to sleep. When I woke up this morning, I checked my stats and found this:

Keyword #1: 13/13/6
Keyword #2: 13/13/36
Keyword #3: 22/-/12
Keyword #4: 20/69/9

I went back and checked my keywords and noticed that I had forgotten to include keywords #1 and #2. The keywords I blasted were actually based mostly around #3 and somewhat about #4.

This is interesting because you can see that in one night, my rankings for #1 and #2 dropped!! At the same time, my rankings for #3 and #4 didn't change much.

Is this normal? If I backlink heavily for a certain keyword term and don't include another keyword term does that mean that the other keyword term is going to get penalized by Google? Perhaps Google looks at the percentage of anchor texts for backlinks and calculates ranking based partially on that. In that case, the influx of new links pointing to keywords #3 and #4 would change the composition and therefore result in a smaller percentage of anchor texts pointing at keywords #1 and #2 thus possibly hurting their rankings.

In any case, if the rankings change again, I will post again in this thread.

Can anyone here comment on my observation regarding keywords and falling rank? Also, how many backlinks are ideal to be created without doing too many and making Google suspect something is up? This time, I created 20,000... should I go for fewer links or more links next time?

Thanks for any help!

ok so i see some confution betwin the 2 things X rumer will do for you
one is bringing a product or service to a potantial client the other is is in the SE
for both im a faver of more systematic work
like going up in numbers over time
and also to target related places
even if it is not cleer if you get more credit for backlinks of related forms etc. and at what point the SE will hit you for what you are doing

there is much more then just random blasting for backlinks to get realy good you most use many statageis to stay ahead....
so...i saw here some where that
a new site goes from 20's to 100 and stays in the hundreds for
PR: wait... I: wait... L: wait... LD: wait... I: wait...wait... Rank: wait... Traffic: wait... Price: wait... C: wait...

Murk said:

This could be a result of the zlinks your using. If they are shared between lots of users you can bet they are spammed heavily and for the most past would be useless. . . its the same reason I never recommend that people use the default link lists with Xrumer.

It could also be your leaving a massive footprint if your posts are very similar to each other. Make sure that each post look unique... use massive spins to accomplish this.

It could also be the at your spamming one way links to your site. Xrumer works a lot better when using link wheel building as it looks more natural.

And it the end it could just be that your serps havent had time to update. If it a competitive niche then you can assume other webmaters are busting their ass to raise their SERPS as well and the ranking you saw had nothing to do with your blast.

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Very excellent post. Thanks for the reply!

You are right, the zlink list I am using is probably overused by others since it was shared here on BHW a little while back. Do you have any suggestions for how I can create my own massive lists? Right now, I am trying to use hrefer and doing keyword targeting based on my niche but the largest list I ever came up with was 70,000 I think (off of maybe 400+ targeted keywords). How can I make general lists? Should I just put in random lists of keywords into hrefer to get the sites to come up?

I didn't do any spinning actually for my posts... I'll have to look into that. The technique I was using was to do a short "hello" post followed by the link in the signature. There is not a whole lot to spin to begin with but I can see how spinning might help.

Could you explain what you mean by using XRumer with link wheel building? Do you mean somehow to make link wheels using XRumer? Or, do you mean create a link wheel with Web 2.0 properties and then use XRumer to add backlinks to all the properties in the link wheel in order to raise their prominence in the eyes of Google?

Yes, I am going to continue to watch my rankings in the next few days and let you all know the results.

Thanks very much for your response, I do appreciate it!

How did your experiment go in the end?

You have to wait at least 1 week for g bot to index most of your links.