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Xrumer, doorway-- what do I do?

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by flow, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. flow

    flow Regular Member

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    OK so if I have a site I want to blast with xrumer, I need to set up a doorway, correct? Now I want to make it permanent-- Ie I don't want to have to worry about hosting shutting me down and my links being dead.

    Would I buy a domain, add a redirect (can you suggest a free host that won't mind redirects? I've avoided paid hosting up to this point.), point the redirect to the site I want to visitor to see? I guess as long as I have my domain I can point it anyway I want.

    Should I put content on the doorway page-- so it stays up longer and has more credibility? Just something simple, like the only thing they can click is to go to my website.
     
  2. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    Doorway page is a keyword rich page with computer made jibberish articles on them.

    Without the content you won't be able to rank, so what you need is to figure out how you are going to make the doorway, then a linking strategy for it to rank.

    Also you need to check how your are going to redirect, if you would put something click here, then you actually need to have human readable text that would rank so it would mean that you don't really need a doorway page because you did put time to write the keyword rich humanly readable article.

    Kandor
     
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  3. flow

    flow Regular Member

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    Maybe I could just spam my domain name.... if it gets de-indexed because of xrumer, (will that even happen with 100k links?) then can I just get a new domain name and spam that one? Or do SEs have a memory for content they've banned?
     
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    justdude Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    usual if you plan spamming domain with tool like xrumer, you have to be ready to sacrifice this domain. If domain is banned you lost all links from SE. I was using 30-50 new domains per day to get as much traffic as I can. New days comes with new domains. If you want traffic from SE spam with this domain for a day or two, and move to another. After you find your way to grab traffic from SE use multiple domains to get as much $ as you can, becouse all methods stop works sooner or later.
     
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  5. kandor

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    The content needs to be unique to be able to rank high, the search engines can rank it again, but it would be a too big footprint to run the new doorway with the same content in my opinion.
    But maybe it would work, or maybe not.

    And by spamming your domain name, I am not sure if I understand what you mean? do mean to build links to the index? or what?

    Kandor

     
  6. flow

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    Hmm I didn't know it could get a domain banned so easily.

    I really just want to promote a service.. I thought spamming relevant message boards would be good.



    Spamming my domain name = setting up www.exampleservice.c0m with a paragraph or two, linking to my landing page, then spamming service.c0m with xrumer.

    My goal is to get a bunch of quick interested traffic and maybe go viral. :/
     
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  7. justdude

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    if domain is valuable spamming with xrumer is risky becouse if you don't have own list with selected sites, someone can report your site as spam. Or you put your site in "bad company" porn, meds etc. Everything affects your site listing. Create bogus domain and use it for spam, so you can check effects without loosing valuable domain. On xrumer forum you have tutorial (this same what is posted on syndic8) how to using xrumer promote whitehat sites. You need sites between your sites and sites used for spam.
     
  8. flow

    flow Regular Member

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    I'll have to find that post on syndik8... I don't have xrumer- I was going to buy one blast.

    So I'll buy a trash domain that has a paragraph or two and a link to landing page-- then spam that. If it's de-indexed, I'll just do it again with different domain and different content.

    Is one level away enough? I'm sure I've seen some posts about WH + xrumer.. I'll go have a look.
     
  9. justdude

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    you need blackhat domains for spam and they will be banned
    greyhat domains for buffor between black and white, some of them will be banned but these domains give power to your main whiethat domaisn you want promote. It's short version :)
     
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    Maybe I could just spam my domain name.

    I think you are looking at it the wrong way.
    Build a subdomain,use a cloaking system on that and build x amount of pages relevent to your topic....
    The software in the cloaking system has the ability to direct bot traffic to the keyword rich text for ranking the pages...or the software detects a human and sends them to a affiliate sales page/url of yours.
    so you would have -
    http://releventkeyword.urdomain.com
    You use xrumer or any other device..to leave these type of keyword rich domain urls on web sites for gbot etc to find which leads to spidering/indexing and then ranking.Your not just "spamming your domain name"..you are trying to get cloaked pages indexed/ranking and hoping to get humans to land on them and buy your products.

    it gets de-indexed because of xrumer, (will that even happen with 100k links?

    It could...but if you treat it kind of like a white hat site it will last longer..what normal white site would get 100k links quickly=none.


    then can I just get a new domain name and spam that one?

    Get backlinks/indexing.

    Or do SEs have a memory for content they've banned?

    They appear to have an ability to sometimes spot "footprints" made by certain software/templates/systems...which can lead to quick bans..

    So I'll buy a trash domain that has a paragraph or two and a link to landing page-- then spam that.

    No..you started talking about doorway pages...if you are still talking about doorway pages, which are pages made for bots..not humans..then the pages are several decent paragraphs of keyword relevent spam content.. to increase your chance of getting the pages indexed properly.
    ..the software itself sends humans to your landing page.

    If it's de-indexed, I'll just do it again with different domain and different content.

    different sub domain..of course its different content..but..if its deindexed by google..so what...leave it and let it try and rank in msn and yahoo...and build another sub..or buy another domain name..
     
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