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Xrumer Cost of Ownership?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TheInternetViking, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    Hey there BHW,

    I am working to do my due diligence before investing in Xrumer. I have read over just about all the threads I can find here on Xrumer. It looks like that is the tool that all the big boys are using (Please correct me if I am wrong).

    I am trying to find out all the extra costs necessary before I get involved.


    • So far it looks like Xrumer can be purchased somewhere between $540-570 (honestly, at that price, who cares about $30 bucks?).
    • Sounds to me like Xrumer support totally blows unless you speak Russian, which I don't. So if I want to get the most use out of it in the shortest amount of time, I should get a tutorial like Xrumer Unleashed for $299. If there is a better one out there, please let me know.
    • Monthly software fee? I'm unclear about this one. I have heard that Xrumer charges you $10/mo to maintain your license. Can somebody please confirm?
    • Dedicated server? This seems to be a point of contention for many XR Blasters. I figured I would start out with it on my home PC (3GB, Dual core, 5-10MB internet connection) while I am learning, and then once I was rolling in the cash, I'd upgrade. Cost of an Xrumer dedi seems to be about $100-200/mo. Is that about right?
    • Time. I should probably put all other projects on hold for about a month while I learn Xrumer. Do you think it would take more than a month to get the hang of the software, if I have Xrumer Unleashed to guide me? I'm not afraid of doing the work (noobs, read that again. It is good for you.)
    • Addons? I have heard that you can buy some good mods out there for Xrumer. Some say you can get an addon that will train XR to post on Pligg forums. Then I would be able to also do what Autopligg does. What (in your most humble opinion) are the best addons for XR and how much are they?
    • Do I need scrapebox, if I have hrefer that comes with Xrumer? Is scrapebox better than hrefer or will they both do the same thing? Which one is more user friendly?

    Ok, so in summary:

    1 time costs:
    Xrumer - $570
    Xrumer Unleashed - $299
    Xrumer Mod - $100?
    ScrapeBox - $60

    Total: $1029

    Monthly Cost:
    Xrumer License fee (or whatever): $10
    Dedi: $150

    Total: $160/mo


    Please feel free to let me know if I missed something. Considering what I have written and dedication level (you rarely see other noobs doing "due diligence."). Do you think I can make my money back in the first month? Is it all reasonable to make $1,000 in your first Xrumer month? I just want the software to pay for itself.

    Thank you in advance for your input. If you post a good reply here, I will hit the "Thanks" button on your post.
     
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  2. gooser898

    gooser898 Regular Member

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    Well i don't pay the $10. But i think some people do. I am quiet sure how that works out. A decent server will cost anywhere from 150-300. That if you want bulletproof. Not having to worry about getting banned gives a real peace of mind. I have not tried xrumer unleashed. Murk is the developer and a member on the forum. Really good guy. Maybe you could talk to him about a membership. The price will jump to $570 in about 1-5 days. The new xrumer is due anytime now. And xrumer mod i wouldn't to much about until the new xrumer comes out. Apparentyl it will a lot easier to make mods yourself. Let me know if you have any more questions
     
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  3. verticall

    verticall Regular Member

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    You won't make $1,000 your first month right off the bat. You're thinking just because you have a powerful tool you bought, its going to make you tons of money right away. It takes time and all it takes is a nice sandbox by Google and your profits are gone.
     
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  4. moremoney

    moremoney Junior Member

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    Wow I never realised the cost of it was so high shows you should have a plan when you buy it or its just going to be sitting there burning a huge hole in your pocket.
     
  5. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    @MoreMoney,

    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. That is why I started this thread because the more I looked into Xrumer, the more convinced I became that it was the way to go, but also more confused as to exactly what I should be expecting cost wise. I figured that if I had these questions, that probably alot more people did too.

    Thanks,
    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  6. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    @Verticall,

    Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your honesty. I am trying to get the most realistic picture of what I should expect. I suppose buying Xrumer is alot like buying a high powered hunting rifle. I shouldn't expect to have trophy buck to hang on my while right away just because I bought a rifle. I'll have to learn how to use it properly.

    Thanks again,
    ~The Internet Viking~
     
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  7. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    @gooser898,

    Thanks for your reply. So, any idea if paying $10 bucks a month gets you anything? Why pay it if you don't have to? Can you please expand a little more on "bulletproof" xrumer hosting? What does that mean? Basically that your host won't shut down because you were spamming the hell out of some poor bastard's forum?

    With regard to mods, do you think the new Xrumer could be trained to create ping.fm accounts (and all the accounts that go with them)? That could be really useful.

    What's your thoughts on hrefer vs. scrapebox?

    Thanks,
    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  8. Mage

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    You should try out some blasts first. Perhaps spend $100 on such blasts, then you will know if you can make back the $1000.
     
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  9. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    @Mage,

    Thanks, that's a great idea. I'm gonna do some searches for it here on the forum. Any recommendations?

    These would be mostly for WPMage sites. Most of them are 2+ year old domains. Is there any problem with linking directly to them?

    Thanks.
    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  10. corvettespeeder

    corvettespeeder Regular Member

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    I am currently direct linking and haven't had any problems yet. The biggest issues I am having is the results. Sometimes it is super easy to get 1st page ranking in a couple weeks and then other times for very similar competition it is next to impossible so far.

    I am upgrading servers this week and also looking to buy as much lists as possible. I can't waste time right now using hrefer.
     
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  11. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    @corvettespeeder, ( I hope your forum name is indicative of your success!)

    I appreciate your reply. If you don't mind my asking, are you linking directly to your money sites? Are you mainly building forum profiles, or are you also posting on the forums? Without revealing your niche, would you mind putting some numbers out there as far as what you are seeing? Like, number of profile links versus SERP position and competition?

    Thanks again,
    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  12. Alex Brooks

    Alex Brooks BANNED BANNED

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    Using xrumer on a home network, not a good idea. Purely based on, your spamming from your home IP, that's like hacking from your home IP.
     
  13. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    So, I guess that's a quick way to find your ISP's banhammer? lol.

    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  14. cdc515

    cdc515 Power Member

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    I am happy to hear you are doing your do dilegence on xrumer i was once in the exact position you were so i will give you my knowledge.

    -Xrumer costs $520-$540 depending on how you want to pay for it. Next week it will go up to $550-$570 depending on how you want to pay for it
    -Xrumer support i found to be not that bad but i didnt really need any, but if you need support the forum helps a little the user guide helps a lot also murks forum and blackhatworld help as well. I have not had a chance to get Murks videos yet but im sure it will help you out A LOT!!
    -As for videos there are others out there but they suck such as ********'s videos there pretty basic knowledge and very crappy quality.
    - If you are computer literate and have decent knwoledge of programs and figuring things out you shouldnt have a problem learning the software.
    I read the manual 2 times and basically learned xrumer basics in a week, then you just can start thinking outside the box and make the best of it.
    -There is no monthly fee i dont think. at least everyone i know with the program doesnt pay this.
    -Im running the program on my home computer and later on will switch to a dedicated server which is around $300+
    - I would take a month like you said and figure out every thing xrumer can do do small blasts see what happens do more see what happens etc.....
    - I am not sure about addons for the program i havent come across any but you can teach the program yourself in the self learning mode built into xrumer. I believe the next version will have many mods and they will be easy to make.
    -I love scrapebox i use the 2 programs together and find it works great, but be careful you can be banned from askimet real quick if your comments suck and then you SOL for that domain. I really just use xrumer for forum posts and profile and i use scrapebox for the blog commenting.
    Scrapebox is more user friendly because it is easier to understand how to use it but once you get the hang of xrumer there both friendly.

    In my opinion i dont think you will make your money back in the 1st month but who knows maybe you have some good ideas and methods so you could. Give it a try let me know how it turns out.
     
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  15. TheInternetViking

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    @cdc515,

    Great response! (thanks button pressed). I really appreciate it. Well, it's nice to know that you started out here too. It sounds like Xrumer unleashed is the best tutorial going out there.

    Thanks!
    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  16. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    I PM'd Murk to see if he wouldn't mind weighing on this thread. I'd like more info about Xrumer Unleashed.

    @Murk,
    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  17. cdc515

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    well i know xrumer unleashed is supose to have a lot of basic as well as advanced ways to use xrumer and it comes with an xas_ai.txt file which will help you success in XRummer posting, the xas_ai.txt file is what is used to help xrumer learn new forums and posting forms.
     
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  18. Krazie

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    Hi, sorry to hijack your thread TheInternetViking, but I had a couple questions myself to go along with yours. Since this is a recent thread I figured no sense in posting more threads about xrumer.

    • It was said that the new version of xrumer is due out any day now. Is it a free upgrade, or do you have options to upgrade for payment, or do you have to buy the new version? If you have to purchase the newer version, if you already own xrumer, has anything been released on possible prices? This is the only thing really stopping me from buying at this exact moment.

    • What is botmasters 'official site'? I've heard botmasternet.com and .net, but not sure if they're both owned by him or not.
    Other than that I'd like to say thanks to everyone who posted and replied to TheInternetViking's questions because I had the same questions.
     
  19. MicrosoftPoints

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    Ok, so in summary:

    1 time costs:
    Xrumer - $540
    Xrumer Unleashed - $150
    ScrapeBox - $60

    Total: $750

    Monthly Cost:
    Xrumer License fee (or whatever): $10 After 3 Months
    Dedi: $55

    Total: $55 a month, then 3rd month $65

    That's the total.
    Use the 50% off coupon with Xrumer Unleashed, use VoumeDrive for a dedi server, and forget the mod for now.
     
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  20. joelb

    joelb Registered Member

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    Could you please elaborate on the $55 on the dedicated server? That sounds kinda cheap...whats the difference between that and "bullet-proof" servers?

    I just bought Xrumer and am doing my research right now.
     
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