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WTF ... What's happening? Google is a bast*rd!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by darrensss, May 15, 2011.

  1. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

    Jun 10, 2010
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    Hi Guys,

    Can you give me your thoughts on a problem i have with serps in google.

    I have a domain that has been used and registered for 10-15 years.
    It has a pr4.

    At the start of 2010 i put a new site on this domain and did onpage and off page seo. Within a few months my serps were ...

    kw1 = page 10 (home page)
    kw2 = page 6 (home page)
    kw3 = page 15 (product page)
    kw1 = page 16 (product page)

    So i did a bit more WH seo and moved them up ....

    kw1 = page 7/8 (home page)
    kw2 = page 2 (home page)
    kw3 = page 7/8 (product page)
    kw1 = page 7/8 (product page)

    After this it became hard to get them to move do i decided too use BH seo and used xrumer (paid service on BHW)

    First xrumer blast of 10k and the second blast was 20k (both blast were done over about 3 month period and targeted my 4 kw's).
    This gave me the following ....

    kw1 = page 2 (home page)
    kw2 = page 1 (home page)
    kw3 = page 2/3 (product page)
    kw1 = page 3/4 (product page)

    I was very pleased but i knew that a number of these links would be deleted so i sat back and watched over a 6 week period and ended up seeing ...

    kw1 = page 5/6 (home page)
    kw2 = page 1 (home page)
    kw3 = page 3 (product page)
    kw1 = page 4 (product page)

    At this stage i stopped for a while and just sat back. The above positions held and were stable.

    In January this year i paid for a SB blast from BHW of 20k to my 4 kw's.
    This didn't really give me much of a boost, made a couple of the kw's jump up a few positions (not pages).

    The Problem:

    After the Jan SB blast i didn't do anymore. Then in March i had a drop for no reason? (well maybe something to do with the google algro update)
    I then got the results ....

    kw1 = page 10 (home page)
    kw2 = page 4 (home page)
    kw3 = page 15 (product page)
    kw1 = page 20+ (product page)

    This got me worried but i thought i'd stay calm and hope it was just a google dance and that i would get my ranking back after a couple of weeks. This didn't happen .... infact it got worse.
    All 4 kw's just disappeared ... couldn't find them anywhere?

    I thought i had been sandboxed or even removed from the index but the strange thing was that the url still held a pr4?
    This made me look up my domain name in google and yep i found it.
    I even found my home page on page1 of google under another kw?

    So my problem is that my 4 main kw's all seem to have been removed from the serps but my domain and 'other' kw's still work?

    Is this normal? does google remove sites for individual kw's? i always thought that if you spammed (xrumer and SB) google just removed the whole site? but for me they have removed the site just for a few selected kw's?

    Any ideas? and suggestions how i can regain my serps?
  2. plex_brahial

    plex_brahial Regular Member

    Sep 30, 2009
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    Ive seen this happen before but in my case the keywords jumped up and down for a while, they didnt settle until now, they come and go
  3. innovalist

    innovalist Supreme Member Premium Member

    Aug 19, 2010
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    Thats why I don't use xrummer etc...
    Best to look for the latest links and remove them. Sort of a reset mode then resubmit your site.
  4. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

    Jun 10, 2010
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    don't see how i can get these links removed, lots of them are in forums and profiles that look like they haven't been used for years ... hence xrumer users can spam the sh*t out of them.

    As for resubmitting my site .... whats the point? its not banned, still has pr and appears in serp's for some kw's just not the ones i want to target!
  5. janist

    janist Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Jan 10, 2011
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    Throw some high quality links at your site: Web 2.0 Props, Article Links, some good ******** bookmarks, edu/gov links, maybe some blog posts etc. -after that blast those new backlinks with xrumer/sb and see what's what..
  6. mofoparrot

    mofoparrot Junior Member

    Jan 2, 2011
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    Well remember that google is also still rolling out some more modified updates. And I feel they are giving less and less value to forum and comment links. That being said they are still not useless but maybe when you originally had the blasts done they where valued a lot more than with most recent algo change and as its applied to all its results you are noticing drops for those main kw you targeted