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WTF google- WHat kind Of SICK Bastard Sandbox is this?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by 229tom, Jun 16, 2011.

  1. 229tom

    229tom Regular Member

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    For past 2weeks something strange have been happening, when ever I try to build some blog comments ( really high quality only Pr4+ with less then 10obl) for my sites after few days all the sites drop like rock in ranks. Whenever I add some new 10comments All of my sites drop in ranks Heavily - I stick to the plan keep building links and they will come back..

    So Im doing these comments to keep the velocity up but still the more I build the more sites drop in ranks :( :(

    Anyone experiencing the same or know what exactly is this stuff?
    Sites which were on first page have dropped to 200th place+ and as I keep building more backlinks they keep dropping in ranks!
     
  2. peppe

    peppe Regular Member

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    what does this have to do with sandboxing?
     
  3. littleg2008

    littleg2008 Senior Member

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    big difference between sandboxed and dance.

    if you type into google http://www.yourdomain.com and you site doesnt appear, the likely hood is you have been sandboxed.

    If however you appear way down the rankings then its a dance.

    Just keep building your links steadily.
     
  4. 229tom

    229tom Regular Member

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    Yeah its not sandboxed then, but still each time after i build backlinks the side looses heavily ranks :( It's been like this 4times in a row in 2weeks
     
  5. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    i had the same experience ... i did a large 10k SB blast to my money site (i know i know im a dick for doing this) but my site is no where to be seen now!

    from page 2 to no where.
     
  6. 229tom

    229tom Regular Member

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    happened to me 2 after large SB blast, but For these sites I do only about 20 high-quality backlinks per week not several K's - Yet still they drop like rock and dont come back everytime I do backlinking.
     
  7. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    OP - how big was your SB blast?
     
  8. worldismine

    worldismine Regular Member

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    Google just changes something big recently, as I've lost top rankings to 3 of my biggest money sites. Some of the domains were 2 years old, and I did not even backlink to them anymore for months.

    BUT, what I DID use is a content locker on all of them. Apperantly Google is coming after sites with CPA hard.
     
  9. ezlegion

    ezlegion Senior Member

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    Hi 229tom,
    I am no seo expert but I have and still am experiencing similar serp changes to yourself (most people doing seo long enough will too) and I've had small success getting them back up.

    Dramatic serp changes happen because something changes either on or off your site that google sees as dramatic, whether this is classed as an actual penalty or not is another matter.

    If you are linking with only high pr how natural does that look? Where are the no/low pr links? What about no follow? Where are your content backlinks - articles, squidoos etc? What about social bookmarks etc etc.

    You've simply raised a red flag (again don't class this as penalty, I prefer to think that it's google saying, 'Whoa, other sites in this niche don't have this combination of links within this timescale, I'm gonna re-think my view of this site/page 'til I can make a sound judgement on where it should be)

    Yes keep building links but all types of links and keep adding fresh original content too (2/3 articles per week is fine - keep those spiders visiting your site). There's no pattern (as far as I can see) as to when you will get it back up unfortunately.

    I hope this helps and I do feel the same pain but the best advice is to just keep going, no matter what keep going, keep learning. I will be doing this for years to come and will never learn enough.
     
  10. cloakndagger

    cloakndagger Power Member

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    Ok there are 100's of these posts,how 'bout people post if they have adsense,cpa,clickbank etc so we can see what's getting targeted.
    A thread with am I sandboxed is of no help whatsoever to anyone,tell us what is on the site,I don't mean the usual I have original content blah blah,what sort of OUTBOUND links are we talking because I think your outbound links are way more important than your inbound links atm.
     
  11. teddykiller

    teddykiller Newbie

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    if building 1,000's of backlinks effected your serps in a negative way, then everyman and his uncle would be wiping out the competition. There is more going on with google than people know about you have to try and figure out what changes they have made and counteract it.
     
  12. businessbira

    businessbira Power Member

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    I used to do Scrapebox blasts (with big AA lists found online) to my new sites all the time and they always came back. It takes time, especially if the site is brand new, it dances like a drunk ballerina but eventually you get back to the spot where you belong. This happens with every kind of backlinks, not only low-quality Scrapebox.

    But if you want to be super-safe, just blast your buffer properties and you'll be fine.
    Just relax, accept the dance and keep working.

    PS: 10k SB blast isn't so big, actually.
     
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  13. bonjovi

    bonjovi Newbie

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    I have a questions re terms here,

    In the first post, what does obl mean?


    Thank you :)
     
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