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Writing a "Real" Book--Might Just Use CB? Would anyone be interested?

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by Xenn Master of Evil, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. Xenn Master of Evil

    Xenn Master of Evil BANNED BANNED

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    This is a bit of an off-topic post for a number of reasons, which is why I didn't want to put it in the ClickBank section. I decided I'd post here and just take it down if people found it to be too off-topic.

    Summary:
    I'm writing a "regular" book, but I decided it would be easier to release it in the form of an ebook. The book is going to be very cheap (probably $5). Should I use ClickBank, or is that a bad way to go for selling this kind of book? Would any of you be interested in promoting it at such a low rate? Etc.

    Essay:
    Basically, I'm considering writing a book that I've been thinking about for a while. Now that I'm more familiar with all of the beautiful things that we talk about over here at BHW , I'm considering going the self-publishing route and using an ebook, since physical print and external publishing both come with a whole range of hassles that I don't want to deal with.

    The thing is, I plan for it to be a more "legitimate" book in the sense that I'd like to properly register the copyright with the U.S. Government, and to get a registered ISBN for the book. It won't just be a once-off quick-sell CB ebook in that sense (most of what I see on CB is HOW 2 GET RICH QUICK, How U Git Da Wimminz, etc.); it's my honest work, and it's intended to be consumed as such.

    Basically, I'm just wondering if ClickBank is an okay avenue to take with this kind of book. I really like the idea of independent advertisers for my work, even if I do have to give them most of the cut. The book is going to be very cheap in the end; I'll probably price it at around $5.

    My thinking on this is that it would be an easy sell for most affiliates. But since the book would be so cheap and not of the same sort typically on CB, is CB even the way to go?

    Also, how does CB release the content, exactly? Do I have to use a third-party website to facilitate the actual file transfer once the purchase is made? And how do I prevent people from simply copying the file to each other?
     
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  2. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    Most Clickbank affiliates won't touch an ebook unless they can make at least
    $25 - $35 commission. At the very least, you need to price your ebook at $47
    and offer affiliates at least a 50% - 75% commission.

    Sorry, but that's how it works. Your $5 ebook won't even get through door at Clickbank.

    There is such a thing as pricing an ebook too low. It makes people suspicious if something
    is too cheap. With your current pricing, your best bet is to make your own sales page and
    get traffic to it and receive payment though PayPal.

    And in response to your question regarding the protection of your ebook, it is highly
    unlikely that you will be able to protect it from pirates (like me) :)

    E-Junkie does offer some protection, but really, at 5$ a shot, it isn't even worth
    going through the trouble.

    As Thomas Edison once said, "The best way to have a great idea is to have a LOT
    of ideas." Create more ebooks and then collectively you will make more money and
    you will progressively get better at it in the process.

    Cheers! - "Wiz"
     
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  3. Xenn Master of Evil

    Xenn Master of Evil BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks for your input! I have been around here for a while, and while I don't dabble much in CB, I have seen what the average rate is.

    I guess my thinking on the issue is that while some might offer a huge commission from a huge charge for the original book, the huge price and the nature of the purchase would make it less likely to sell. The people you'd hopefully target with my book would probably be very willing to purchase it for $5--I'm aiming to give them an extremely great value for their money.

    So I'm assuming that rather than landing one sale every 100 hops and making $25 per sale, you'd be landing one sale every 20 hops and making $3.00 per sale. The first product would leave you with $250 per 1000 hops, whereas mine, despite it being much cheaper, would leave you with $300.

    Would it not work that way? Thanks for you input either way!

    Edit:
    I also looked into E-Junkie before and it seemed really good. Since this is a "regular" book in the sense that it's not your typical quick-sell ebook (I'll be selling it for a long time), why would the fact that the book is cheap make E-Junkie not worthwhile?

    Thanks :)
     
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  4. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    I am quite sure in saying that Clickbank would not even accept an ebook that was priced that low.
     
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  5. Xenn Master of Evil

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    They reject content from authors based on its price?
     
  6. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    Well . . . I haven't checked on it, but I do know that Clickbank has to get their money and the Affiliates have to get their money, so how much would that leave for you after their cut? And as I said previously, affiliates won't touch a Clickbank ebook unless they can make $25 - $35 per sale from it. Of that, I am certain.

    Cheers! - "Wiz"
     
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  7. Mr Ex

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    Although it makes sense that you think that it takes less effort to promote a $5 book, rather than a $47 one, most affiliates if not all won't even touch your offer. Because the affiliates in general there, are using adwords and $3 commission will not be enough to even cover the expenses. Also, the conversion rates are usually around 1-3% so in every 100 hops, your affiliates will make 1-3 sales which is between 3-9$ By promoting something else, they can make 10 times more with the same hops.

    I would suggest you to go to lulu.com and use their service. They can get you ISBN and they accept paypal. This might be a much better way to sell your book online. Most self publishers are using that site to sell their books.
     
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  8. 75INZ

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    Theres a website called lulu.com which prints books per order.

    You might want to try that.
     
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  9. Xenn Master of Evil

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    Thanks, to everyone, for all of the great replies. To the guy I quoted: wouldn't conversion rates change based on a ton of factors (price included)? You seem to imply that you'd get the same rate regardless of the variables, which makes no sense.

    Also, how much of a cut does CB take?

    Thanks
     
  10. werrich

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    in addition to lulu.com, createspace.com (owned by amazon) works really well and you can get actual books printed too. it costs about $3.20 for the average small (Under 150pg) book to be printed. all u need to submit is a pdf.
    you may just want to go ahead and make your ebook to publish it for the kindle/ebook readers and tackle that market. there's probably less competition in those formats and less written/available to those book readers on your topics.
     
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  11. lawton

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    I've used createspace before on a workbook I created for one of my niches. It is hands down the best way to have a book published. Their interface is easy to use and they are affordable. The books were very high quality and there is no huge inventory to keep. Just my experience with them.


     
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  12. LiamLC

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    You should definitely look into sites like lulu and createspace but also with these new ereaders try and get it on amazon and the ibook store or sell a pdf version. Piracy depends on what kind of book you are writing. A how to make money online method ebook might get pirated a lot but if you are actually writing a legitimate book you shouldn't worry about piracy. Freakanomics, a bestselling economics book, for example only gets pirated about 300 somthing times a year and they've sold millions of copies.
     
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  13. Xenn Master of Evil

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    Thanks folks--createspace sounds great. I am still interested in the e-book route though; perhaps I can just use my own website and find some sort of mediator to unlock the download after payment.
     
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    Bumping the thread up for more advice:)