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Would You Say Most People Don't Understand That You Need To Invest Money?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gmarch25, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. gmarch25

    gmarch25 Junior Member

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    I find a lot of people sound shocked when I tell them I paid $15 for a social bookmarking site or $57 for scrapebox....with everyone just assuming instantly it is a waste. Do you guys find most people instantly think this? It seems nobody (friends, etc) is open to investing a little bit of money in hopes for a greater returns..

    anyone else notice this?
     
  2. izm

    izm Regular Member

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    Those are basics, spending couple 100 or couple K shouldn't even be a slightest issue.
     
  3. gmarch25

    gmarch25 Junior Member

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    i can't believe how many people are instantly turned off by this though...so many people just instantly shun this...weird to me i guess
     
  4. Expertpeon

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    I think you are expecting too much from people. Most people will ever understand spending money outside of gas and possibly new clothes to go to work. I just don't see how it would come up in conversation with someone outside of the Internet Marketing community that I spent $15 on social bookmarking. I keep that on the down-low. The only person I would ever explain that to is a wife because she has a right to know where the money is going.
     
  6. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    No... some tools are objectively not worth the price... hence why I still have yet to buy them, but I own almost every other tool.
    Is it "affordable" at that price? sure, is it worth it? eeehhh
     
  7. Kickflip

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    You missed where he said "use it properly". Xrumer is stupid powerful IF you are an expert with it. I used it for 2 weeks and could barely figure out how to do Mass-PM. It has potential to figuratively rape every website. But again, "use it properly" is the key. If you actually KNEW how to use Xrumer to its fullest extent, you would LAUGH at how low its priced.
     
  8. gmarch25

    gmarch25 Junior Member

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    Well i usually talk ideas with my friends a lot so it comes up the entire "how does google decide what they show first"

    I guess if your friends aren't interested in that type of thing it would never come up.

    of course some friends our convo's don't go further than sports lol
     
  9. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Again it may be objectively worth $590, but it's not worth it to me... it requires as insane amount of dedication and list tending, which is a giant time sink. I have used it myself, and got fairly "far" with it I guess you could say, but I decided against buying it because, simply put, it just didn't do it for me.

    It's no scrapebox, and the links it generates are very difficult to get indexed these days.

    Scrapebox is in an entirely different league, once you know how to use that tool, you'd probably think Xrumer was the joke (considering the price difference)....
    The power of 7 instances and 500k d0follow AA lists (once you know how to scrape such a thing) is beyond comparison.

    Also the cost of xrumer use is much higher than at first glance, even with my fibre it hogs everything... it needs a dedi, and that's another $50-70/mth
    Once you have created PR4-PR8 d0follow lists 1000-1500 domains strong, Xrumer's brute force approach is just... yes I saw the power of it, but it's not elegant, long term or unbeatable as so many other things I do...
    Time is the one thing I don't have plenty of.
    Perhaps I'm thinking in my box, but my box is very cozy and high paying... I don't do email spam, PM spam, to generate leads. I don't do much CPA... I just create authority sites, usually aimed at niches with >$2mill/yr revenue
     
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  10. coolname

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    if spending money helps me save time, it's money well spent in my book.
     
  11. Kickflip

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    I'm telling you man, you simply have no idea what Xrumer is capable of.

    You are referring to Forum Profile Links? That is the most basic and least valuable function Xrumer has.

    You are right, to you it isn't worth the money. But to someone who actually knows what they are doing with xrumer, I promise you no other public tool can compare to its power. That was the point. Of course if someone doesn't know how to use a tool, its a bad investment.

    For $1.00 or $1,000, if you don't know how to use a tool and don't have the time to learn, don't buy it. That is pretty much a no brainer.
     
  12. moeatwa

    moeatwa Regular Member

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    Keep in mind though, that there are also lots of level-headed people who don't mind spending money in IM, but simply don't have any to spare. You have lots of enthusiastic teenagers, people who lost their jobs, things like that. Those people are desperately clinging to what little resources they have left...
     
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