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Would this would work to achieve 100% inboxing?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by theabcofxyz, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. theabcofxyz

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    Say one has an email list with passwords. Could one use some sort of script, software, etc. to log into each email and have that account email himself/herself with your offer in mail body?
     
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    No such thing as 100% inboxing.

    Obviously what you are suggesting is illegal if those email accounts are real.
     
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    I see, thanks Asif. Am I wrong in thinking a lot of blackhat is illegal? I mean, I'm trying hard to learn, but I guess I have a long ways to go : /
     
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    Blackhat is not necessarily illegal, just be wary and be careful with what you try.

    If those email accounts are owned by other people and you do not have authorization to access their accounts then it would be considered hacking/computer misuse.
     
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    Its a big risk to take just in exchange for putting an offer in front of someone - you are committing a criminal offence (And a very serious one seeing as hacking is always considered more serious than many other cimes) and your reward is guaranteeing that someone sees your email? Seems a bit overboard.

    I am not commiting any type of illegal activity but if you are going to do something illegal you normally want a very high reward in return for the risk. On the other hand if you are just trying to get your email into peoples inboxes there are many ways of doing it that come with a lot lower risk.
     
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    But see, I read many posts in here, and a lot of them are about bending the rules to the point where it becomes, at least to me, very difficult to ascertain whether an action is legal or illegal. I mean, the lines drawn are very vague from where I stand. Maybe it's because I don't have the benefit of experience but that is what I see.

    Perhaps it comes down to the eleventh commandment -- don't get caught. Not that I would do it, but I feel, and please correct me if I am wrong, I feel many BHW members partake in illegal activities. Am I not seeing things right? I ask because I am trying to lay an operational foundation for myself in terms of IM.
     
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    Thanks for the input. I wouldn't do it, I am just trying to understand better what blackhat is about.

    And making a fool of myself in the process perhaps, but I am trying to learn : /
     
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    Generally speaking on this forum blackhat just means trying to game the search engines by using automation, reverse engineering and any other technique to get better ranking. And it also includes doing similar things on social platforms any any other area online. But it does not normally involve illegal activities, more just activities that would be against the terms and conditions of search engines, social platforms etc and would at most get you banned if caught.

    Having said that I know there are people here that would include a lot darker tactics in the term blackhat and also I know some people say that blackhatworld used to include discussions of much more dark hat methods - but I have never been involved in that and I think as blackhatworld has become more popular and more mainstream there are less discussions in that category.
     
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    But...see stuff like this is what blows my mind. I mean, when one goes against ToS of a website, business, etc...doesn't this constitute illegality? I'm sure one could split hairs over the definition but I think you know what I mean, right?
     
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    There's a difference between a criminal offense and a civil one. What you're talking about in your OP is a criminal offense, while violating the TOS of a site in itself is just a civil matter in the vast majority of cases.

    If you like, you can draw a scale from highly illegal through borderline illegal to not illegal at all. Hacking is in the highly illegal pole.
     
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    Thanks for that nice explanation Honeybird.
     
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    Yes exactly what @HoNeYBiRD said :) There is a big difference between criminal and civil matters. The easiest way to think about it is that if you commit a criminal offence you are likely to go to prison if caught, so its in your interest to learn what constitutes a criminal offence (Especially seeing as ignorance is not a valid defence when it comes to criminal law). Civil offence on the other hand you are more likely to get sued and end up paying a fine or damages or whatever (In the worst case).
     
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