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Would This Service Be Useful?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aj113, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. aj113

    aj113 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Greetings to all fellow blackhatters. I would like your esteemed opinion(s) on a service that i am considering supplying:

    There are many article writing and rewriting services, and very popular they are too, thus emphasisng the demand for unique content.

    The service I would provide would be a spin (pardon the pun!) on this service: You would send your PLR article to me, and I would process the article, returning it to you "tokenized", ready to spin in Jetspinner or SE*Nuke or similar, thus you would have an article that could be spun a limitless number of times, giving you thousands - nay millions - of unique articles from your single PLR.

    All articles would be guaranteed to be at least 30% unique as measured by Dupe Cop - which is enough for the SE's to regard as unique, and many would be up to 40%.

    Below is an excerpt from a known and loved sticky in this very forum, please, go ahead, copy and paste it into SE*Nuke or Jetspinner, and see how the quality stands up to scrutiny. English is my forte, and because of this, I can guarantee that every spun article will be of a high enough quality to be read, understood and appreciated by humans.

    Despite my abilities, this sort of stuff is very time consuming so I would not be able to do it on the cheap, but then again you must remember that you would be getting limitless unique content for your money.

    Would you use such a service? If so, how much would you pay per 100 words?

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  2. Alexa

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    What's your price for doing it then? I might be interested but it all depends on your pricing...

    You can use the above article as an example for pricing then.

    Thanks,
    Alexa
     
  3. aj113

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    Thank you for replying Alexa, I don't have a price, because I'm not offering the service (yet!). That is the purpose of the thread, to ask you what you think the service is worth. By all means use the above extract as an example, the word count is (depending on which spun version you use!) approximately 135. Do you think there is a need for the service? If so, what would you pay for it? Or what do think I should charge for it?
     
  4. Tom__

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    This service would be useful but it is actually only using synomyms, their are already programs for doing this.

    I wouldn't pay more as 2$/every 100 words. But I don't really know the marketing prices so...
     
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    this would be very usefull service.... however would depend completely on pricing structure.... and do you do this manually or a program to do this?? as i would find it only valuable if each and every combination made literal sense otherwise would create a bad image for my company...
     
  6. aj113

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    OK thank you guys, I don't think I have made myself clear enough. The articles are tokenized "by hand" in such a fashion that no matter how it is spun, it reads well to a human. Now, there are many programs that will introduce synonyms on an auto basis, but you still have to go through the article yourself making corrections, trying to create something that will read well no matter how it is spun.

    Please, take the sample from the OP and spin it as much as you like, then check any/all spun versions. You can use any spun version of the paragraph and it will still make good sense to a human. There is no software that can do this.

    Now, what could you do with limitless, unique, good quality content?
     
  7. BlackBeret

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    This was actually on my "list of things to do", but it was close to the bottom. I kind of hate doing the "spin" substitutions which is why it was so low. I was going to teach my kids how to do it because they are always looking for a way to make money on their computers.

    I never got around to trying to find a selling price for it. Depending on your price I might try some "spinning arbitrage".

    I don't think you would get much interest for anything less than 300 words. That seems to be what most article directories require. 135 words might be good for blog posting, but it seems like it would be hard to get a large amount of difference with so few words to spin.

    Good luck, I'll keep an eye on this thread and see how it works out. Maybe we can do something together. I would consider using the service if it saved me the hassle of doing it. I probably wouldn't submit anything for spinning that was less than 350 words though. I could do anything smaller myself pretty quickly now.

    Another thing I was worried about was the different symbols that different spinning software used. I see you listed JetSpinner in your post but I know a lot of people use Content Spooler and PowerArticleRewriter. Last I looked JetSpinner was free so that might be the way to go.
     
  8. RalphyBoy

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    I would also be interested, cost will be determining factor...
     
  9. aj113

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    Sorry, I'm making a complete pig's arse of explaining myself :) The example in the OP is 135 words. The service itself could be any amount of words. 13500 if you like.
    But that's my point. That example in the OP is 135 words long, but I have made it not only 40% unique when spun (as verified by dupe cop), but every spun version makes sense and is readable.

    I would use whatever symbols the customer preferred.
     
  10. RalphyBoy

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    Just let us know the price for an average plr article 400-500 words...
     
  11. markiid

    markiid Registered Member

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    Yes I might be interested to but some sort of pricing plan would be nice.
     
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    Guys, I am not here to give a price for my service (yet). If and when I do it will be in the appropriate section of the forum and I will pay the appropriate forum fee. Right now I am just trying to ascertain whether it is a worthwhile venture. For that, I need your input as to how much you think I should charge per hundred words - or if you prefer, how much you would be prepared tp pay per hundred words for the service.

    Now, Tom has stated that he would not pay more than $2.00 per 100 words. Thank you for that Tom :) This is an extremely time-consuming task, because it has to be done so that all the spun articles are not only unique, but readable too. For that reason I can tell you that $2 per 100 words would be too low.
     
  13. snowwhite

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    Weird, I was actually doing this spinning thing for xrumer for 2 days now and Im exhausted. I was looking at some Indians on DP who can do this since I really dont have time. Actually I can finish spinning a 500-word article in one sitting. But of course I cant do that everyday since I have alot of more important things to do. Most of my staff arent really the writer-type so I really cant trust them to do this for me.

    So, YES, this service is useful, especially those who are using Xrumer. Its best to really spin the articles for obvious reasons.

    $2 per 100 words is low? The rate in DP for article rewriting is at 0.5 per 100 words so I think $2 per 100 is justice.