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Worst IM guru of 2019 and IM guru thats worth ones time in 2020

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Magmaspace, Nov 10, 2019.

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Worst IM guru that have wasted your time and / or money

  1. Kevin David

    24 vote(s)
    19.5%
  2. Tai Lopez

    69 vote(s)
    56.1%
  3. Tanner fox

    8 vote(s)
    6.5%
  4. Zach Miller

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  5. Dan Lok

    21 vote(s)
    17.1%
  1. cristofori

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    Same as scientology right you have to pay to get into the upper levels
     
  2. schttrj

    schttrj Registered Member

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    What about Anik Singal from Lurn? And the infamous friend of his, Robert Kiyosaki?
     
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    dan lok is inspiring even though he is a bit fake, he makes you at least get out of you get out of your lazy ass and do things
     
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    i do like brian dean and ruan maurinho, rest i dont like
     
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    I would avoid the Ryan M. Guy, from the little I've heard of him he seems like a shill that barely knows SEO.

    For SEO my picks are;

    SEO Fight Club
    https://theblueprint.training/
    Chase Reiner (He is mostly shit but he has some good old videos).
    Gotch SEO
    Dori Friend

    Those are the guys that I trust for SEO knowledge.
     
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    I am familiar with Nathan and Chase but not the others.

    I love nathan´s YouTube Channel. He come accross like a genuine and honest guy to me.

    Chase is a jerk but his tutorials on on-page audits are amazing!

    And i will check the others right now...Thanks!
     
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    I heard that as well from a few well know guys. I have a feeling he was doing some shady shit.
     
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    Yeah, Neil Patel is basically all "old school" talk. And what really amazes me is how an article on "best WordPress SEO plugins" starts with what plugins are and why Php is used in creating plugins.

    Personally, I don't like these pseudo-long-forms that promise value but break it midway into the article.

    Moreover, why did he sell the Nutrition site? If it was making a six-figure income, would a rational person sell it away?

    Look, there is a concept called first-mover advantage in a business where you start so early that you can get by with an MVP and over time, you develop into a brand nonetheless by dint of being in the niche for long.

    No value from these people.
     
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    All are great. Study what they do, not what they say.
     
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    No they are not , check the poll result.
     
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    Oh silly me, must be true if that's what the poll says.
     
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    You should better look up a YT channel called Coffeezilla. It will save the $999 you are going to spend on your next course purchase :)

    And by "study what they do...", you meant rehash old material, fake luxury cars and penthouses, and sell impossible dreams to the not-so-well-off, well, what can I say? To each his own, I guess.
     
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    Never heard of it. Sounds like another shitty YouTuber who makes like $100k a year doing TeeSpring and reselling shig on eBay. Is that supposed to inspire me?

    Not sure why you're being such a hater. It's been debunked many times that Tai Lopez never rented his vehicles. Kevin David has a plaque from ClickFunnels for selling over 7 figures, and Dan Lok is flying on private jets and living like a baller. Sounds like you're just jealous, and need a scapegoat to blame for your lack of success so you demonize anyone who is killing the game and doing it way better than you.

    And by "study what they do" I mean exactly what it says. These are some of the best marketers in the world, but everyone wants to call them idiots. They didnt get to where they are by accident. Stop being a hater. You dont need to buy their products or be a fanboy to respect what they do.
     
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    My guy...just stop.
     
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    All time worst were, BITCONNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT!
    But that was crypto
    Tai and KD are pretty bad, KD just got exposed for some stuff, but he took coffeezilla to court for it, so the video is offline.
    Tai for all his lame name dropping, and his book club phrase: ME AND OPRAH WINFREY own the biggest book clubs in the world,

    That being said , some of this list are smart and good at what they do, which is selling courses.
    However, Bezos is cracking down hard on Amazon course sellers, and some big GURUS could get in major trouble..

    Alex fedotoff says some real stuff about ecommerce, lot of people say stuff thats real, mixed with a lot of random content, and course selling tactics, and BS. just pick what works, and implement it
     
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    Obviously, either you are clueless or you secretly get commissions from these guys.

    Check out the YT channel and you will know. At least, you will not be so IGNORANT (or maybe, save some of your hard-earned savings before you shell out on another $999 course).

    Oh, BTW you are right that I am a hater. I do hate phony frauds who call themselves "entrepreneurs". I totally love and admire Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, and the likes. I do admire real entrepreneurs like Elon Musk.

    And as I said above, you call them some of the best "marketers" in the world. I call them some of the best FRAUDS in the world. A bit of perspective, huh?

    On second thought, you know, don't change your views about these people. They do need some gullible "fanboys" to buy their upcoming courses. ;-)
     
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    You are a part of their circlejerk fandom. Nice job bro, bet you are balling on the same level they are
     
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    I've never bought a course from any of these people, actually. I don't have much time to watch what they do, but I've consumed some of their content from time to time. Most of the stuff they teach is for noobs, and I've grown past all that. The only stuff that really interests me is the mindset stuff, Tai Lopez is great for that. You guys must have over read the part where I said "watch what they do, not what they say". These are two very different things.

    Also, you are wrong to assume that I get any sort of commission from any of them. I don't make my money through courses, or affiliate marketing, or any sort of "guru-tism". It doesn't really effect me either way what you think of them.. which is why I don't really care to even keep this conversation going.

    With that said, I'm not against courses. I think there is a time and place for them.. if you're like me and don't have a lot of time, it makes more sense to buy a guide from someone who has already done the work and made all the mistakes so you don't have to. I don't see anything wrong with that. I value my time more than money. Most of the people on this forum don't make much, and $49.97 or whatever it is for a course is a lot of money to them. They would rather avoid buying a course and learning it themselves.. but the problem with that is you have to learn all the mistakes first hand.. I'd rather just pay someone to teach me the skills and fast track my success and cut out all the time and bullshit.

    But yeah.. I really don't care, and I spent more time and energy replying to this than I should have.

    You do you, and I'll do me.
     
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    That's where the thread actually started, with someone DEFRAUDING you, promising to reveal the "secrets to riches" without anything real to show for it, apart from the fact that they possess some magical "marketing" ability to dupe beginners out of their college pocket money or retirement savings.

    It's absolutely silly to say that anyone is against a "course". For someone who is getting his Masters in Biomedical Engineering from an Ivy League school, is the course not worth it? Of course, it is. (I am not going into traditional education, student debt, and all such stuff here.) But the course itself is worth it.

    But when someone hires strippers and rents penthouse to show off their wealth or wants to get someone else's Amazon FBA screenshot to sell his own course, I don't think anyone would pay even $49.95 to learn anything from them (better they would join the local gang and learn how to pickpocket strangers!).

    To conclude, if you think these people are providing value through their course, I stick to my opinion and I suggest you check out that YouTube channel. Much better.
     
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    Buying a course online is like buying any product.. you're gonna win some, you're gonna lose some. But to bundle every single person who has ever sold a digital course as a fraudster or a scammer is completely naive, and you're only doing yourself a disservice by trying to learn everything on your own, because methods die faster than you think.

    I'm also actually really curious how much you actually make online. Are you even qualified to talk about this stuff? How much annual profits do you make last year? If you make more money than I do, then I'll shut my mouth and go watch that YouTube channel, but I don't think you do.