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Working footprints past Penguin.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ExtraWinner, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. ExtraWinner

    ExtraWinner BANNED BANNED

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    Here they are:

    A) Extremely competitive keywords, very weak onsite optimization, site have only few weeks, targeting 5 keywords:

    100 AMR links.
    100+ social signals
    200 Social Bookmarks
    200+ Wiki Links
    ~500+ mixed Jcow etc links
    3 x Social Gigs from Fiverr
    25 Q&A type of links
    800 Spammy Social Bookmarks
    100+ Private blog network
    Some of them submitted to Lindexed
    75% of anchored keywords, 25% of organic.

    Results:

    Site from nowhere is in top100 for all keywords in which best and most competitive keyword is on page 2.
    All keywords dancing heavily but each time they are back from drop - they come back with better positions. They change positions every few hours.


    B) Pretty Difficult Keywords (some are local), Very Good Onsite Optimization, site have few months, targeting ~30 keywords:


    300+ Manually Submitted Profile links (drip feed).
    150 Manually Done Social Bookmarks
    Social Signals - around 200 links
    Drip Feeded top sites links
    All work done manually
    80% of anchored keyword, 20% of organic.


    Results:

    Out of ~30 keywords 25 are in top300, 23 are in top200, 20 are in top100 in which we have 15 keywords in top50.
    Some keywords are heavily dancing - but coming back on same positions or even stronger within few hours.



    C) Low Competition Keywords, Poor Onsite Optimization, site is old, targeting 1 keyword:


    150.000 Successful Submissions using Scrapebox and nice list of 1Mil AA pages - all organic anchors.
    1.000 submitted Wiki links (with scraped and spun article)
    500 Social Bookmarks spam
    Some Scrapebox links pinged using Lindexed, Linklicious and other pinging solutions.
    1% of anchored keywords and 99% of organic.


    Results:

    Website moved from #13 to position #6. It wouldn't move from there for 1 month. Afterwards it moved to #16 and its there since a month. No sign of penalty.



    D) Medium Competition Keywords, Good Onsite Optimization, Site is new, targeting 10 keywords:


    15 Manual Posts to high PR forums with organic link and related text
    25 Q&A posted with organic link and related text
    125 Manual Social Bookmarks
    ~200 Web 2.0's with organic anchor + keywords
    50 links from niche related sites
    100+ AMR links
    Press Release with 50+ submissions
    All manual links submitted to Lindexed
    60% organic links and 40% keyword anchor.


    Results:

    Out of 10 keywords - 4 keywords entered top10 in 2 weeks and 5 keywords entered top30. 1 keyword (secondary) is nowhere to find.




    So by looking at this you can easily see that pre-penguin methods are still working fine, you just need to diverse bit more link types and anchors. I would suggest using for bigger SEO 30% of anchored keywords, 30% of long tail anchored keywords and 40% of organic anchors. I also suggest using 1 organic anchor and 1 keyword anchor in web 2.0's
    Also Scrapebox gave pretty good results as a direct blast to the site. It shown that it still can be used for short term SEO (before some releases or important events) - especially with old websites.
    Q&As and manual forum posts seems to be doing great job.
    All results are collected in last 2 days so all results are after-penguin. All domains tested were .com

    I will post in a few days few cool backlinking methods that work charms.

    Good Luck!
     
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  2. shaggy93

    shaggy93 Senior Member

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    What was the content ratio you used? Was that spun or unique articles, or scraped one!
     
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  3. johnnyd77

    johnnyd77 Senior Member

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    I had good result with Q and A backlinks for a new YT video.
     
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  4. ExtraWinner

    ExtraWinner BANNED BANNED

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    All sites had unique onsite content. All Wikis/Web 2.0 were done using scraped, spunned articles.
    I try to do tests on sites that have more than 1 article onsite content - so you could say - media/content rich in some way.
     
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  5. jvmartija

    jvmartija Regular Member

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    Are the spun articles readable?
     
  6. aardanyul

    aardanyul BANNED BANNED

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    Wow ExtraWinner, great post. Did your web 2.0s have the standard 2 links per site?
     
  7. danailo

    danailo Supreme Member

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    I strongly doubt that you can rank a website in top 10 results and make it stick there for a long time with such methods. You should track the SERP movement at least for a month before any conclusion :) For rock solid results Tier 1&2 must be with quality content and handmade as much as possible.

    And something important about this private networks. SEO hosting don't work anymore or almost don't work for me - blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/399161-search-engine-optimization-hosting-complete-bullshit.html
    Do you want 100 blog posts from 100 websites with 100 C-class i.ps all hosted in Chicago for example?

    How to avoid networks on SEOhosting? Simply post 5-10 articles and check every websites i.p if it is from one network/city. If it is -don't waste your money there.
     
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  8. Camouf

    Camouf Regular Member

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    What would happend with your rankings if you would use the exact same set up, A, B, C, D again on these sites?

    Do you find AMR still effective? I am seeing mixed results on my sites, and also bigger dances compared to the use of web 2.0 etc.
     
  9. formosaz

    formosaz Newbie

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    what is organic kws ? do you mean generic ?
     
  10. LOL-Blaster

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    Maybe you are getting this result because of the new google dance algorithm.

    I can't post link yet so search for it.
     
  11. seo-addict

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    Great work buddy... I'm glad to see a real "BH" post instead of nubbie "build natural" bullshit I'm used to on here. My strategy is similar to yours, but I've slightly toned down my anchors even more in preparation for the upcoming Pissy Penguin update. Can't wait to see what Bullshitman Cunts has in store for us this time.
     
  12. seo-addict

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    Lol the "new" Google dance algorithm. I saw the patent, looks like the same ole shit. He's getting results because he understands how the algorithm works in regard to ranking sites. Nubs that say build natural yada yada just havent been in the game long enough.