Within the past 30 days I have lost 50% KWs and still dropping

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I have abandoned my main site because at this point it's pointless to track the updates, I get battered so often that I don't even know which update fucked me over.

Ahrefs stats show 50% Keywords loss within the past 30 days. Has anyone recovered from this or knows what they targeted this time?

Can't keep up with this anymore, need to outsource to someone who could fix the site and then sell it off as quickly as possible.
 

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Are you relying on exclusively in Ahrefs keyword data? No analytics?

Nowadays with the core updates it's slightly difficultier to find specific causes since they are just perfetioning the whole algo not specific new aspets

Also, important to mention: is your site fit in terms of WPO? I'm confident that from May to August, most drops are going to go around this topic.
 

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Sites I have ranked in the past using long form content seem to go up and stick well.
Never used shady techniques like expired domains, so can't help with that.
 

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Are you relying on exclusively in Ahrefs keyword data? No analytics?

Nowadays with the core updates it's slightly difficultier to find specific causes since they are just perfetioning the whole algo not specific new aspets

Also, important to mention: is your site fit in terms of WPO? I'm confident that from May to August, most drops are going to go around this topic.
By WPO you mean Web Performance Optimization?

I have fixed what I could in hand myself, to combat core web vitals I cut out unnecessary sections and added AMP to do the rest.. Seemed to work fine as I usually work with Turbo Theme only that is somewhat performance-optimized.

I did further research and my competitors are punished as well.. Seems like the entire niche took a hit and this is what I do not understand.. All these sites belong to different webmasters who are using different SEO tactics, they can't all do the same mistakes.. The sites are built differently in the first place, the content is structured differently and the links are being built differently and they all took a hit and quite severe.. From the previous Top 10 - 9 have gone missing and some can't be found anywhere in the SERP with their main keywords.

It's like an algorithmic penalty for the entire niche or Google just messed it up by default with their updates.. This is the main reason I'll be quitting SEO. I don't see any point in throwing money in month after month and be in the mercy of Google.
 

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It's just that you all targeted the wrong entity. Google machine learning algorithm came up with a story that web page content (or images, or videos, or backlinks) or whatever you were trying to SEO would not be important in your niche.
 

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I have fixed what I could in hand myself, to combat core web vitals I cut out unnecessary sections and added AMP to do the rest.
Do you have a solid 90+ in each single indexed page of your site?

I would be running a WPO audit with the API of PSI for each indexed site, at least once (for maintenance it's enough to just monitor the non-templated pages and only one page per template, either you use a CMS like WP or any other templating system like twig or blade)
 

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I lost some keywords due to these updates too, i lost around 50 keywords out of which 1 was in 1-3 top, and 4 in 4-10, but the traffic dropped by some ~30% now all i have to do is wait for this update to end and then will think what i will do next.
In your case, i would look at the top keywords you lost and see what the competitor did regarding on-page maybe even off-page, or maybe you have some shady pbn links?
 

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don't despair, mate! Give it 2-3 weeks and see if the rankings come back (sometimes they do)
 

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My question, what type of Back-links are you mainly relying on?

what type of content are the links within (listicle? news? press release?)
 

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Google's AI is getting smarter, old methods don't work anymore. That's what happened. How semantic enough are your keyword research and content map covering the necessary intents and context?
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Read what you should do here https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2019/08/core-updates

You can dm me if you need help.

don't despair, mate! Give it 2-3 weeks and see if the rankings come back (sometimes they do)

It's not about this project but any project that might give me the same bullshit in the future. Need to exit SEO or try Bing instead of Google.

It's not about this site particularly.. it's how they mess with the updates in general, it's uncertain.

My question, what type of Back-links are you mainly relying on?

what type of content are the links within (listicle? news? press release?)

Honestly don't take this in the wrong way but since I have multiple links selling threads on this marketplace then I know what I am doing and what links I am getting.

Can anyone even rank with press release links? What type of questions is that :D
 

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I think it’s too early to tell . better to wait another a week more or so to see how is it .
 

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Honestly don't take this in the wrong way but since I have multiple links selling threads on this marketplace then I know what I am doing and what links I am getting.

Can anyone even rank with press release links? What type of questions is that :D


I'm interested in this information to understand why people are failing so miserably currently.

My sites haven't seen anything change.

Just want the information to try and draw a hypothesis.
 

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I still can't recovered from "submitted not indexed" error since early 2019
I was speaking about rankings (rankings do get back to normal after a while), not about the "submitted not indexed" thing that you see in GSC.

It's not about this project but any project that might give me the same bullshit in the future. Need to exit SEO or try Bing instead of Google.

It's not about this site particularly.. it's how they mess with the updates in general, it's uncertain.
oh, don't worry! You're gonna dance how google signs for your entire life... or until google disappears, so be prepared for this shit year after year. As for Bing, even one of my non-SEO optimized sites ranks on the 1st page of Bing for 2 keywords (each of them gets less than 100 searches per month) without me doing anything about it. The domain name is an EMD (very similar to "learn guitar lessons", but obviously not this one). So, trying Bing is not something that you have to prepare for, cause Bing is not as strict as google. If your sites are optimized for google bing will just rank you outright. I guess you still need to submit your site's sitemap to their search console, but I haven't done this and I still rank. So, I don't know....

And yeah, google is uncertain... well, all 3rd party tools, sites and services that directly affect your sites are uncertain. Can you bet your house on a nickel that SEMRush will stay forever? Or Ahrefs? Its the nature of this industry (SEO) that makes it volatile (I hope I used the right word :p) ... Anyway, apparently you are a much more experienced SEOer than I am, so I don't think any of my "tips" are eye-opening for you. So, all I'm trying to say is that you should just diversify your portfolio of sites, and the SEO efforts too. Even I, as poor as I am, still have 7 sites (1 authority site, 3 autoblogs, 1 ebooks store, and 2 blogging mom type of sites) that I'm "working" on (by "working" I mean I post an article on them once in a blue moon, if I'm in the mood lol) and at least 3 more sites (2 autoblogs + 1 authority) will come by the end of this month cause you never know what sticks and what takes off. So, diversify, use white hat techniques, spamdexing, autoblogging, etc and whenever one method stops working other methods usually get better. That's why it's better to have different types of sites and using different SEO tactics. Either this, or let's go pick cotton :)
 

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I was speaking about rankings (rankings do get back to normal after a while), not about the "submitted not indexed" thing that you see in GSC.


oh, don't worry! You're gonna dance how google signs for your entire life... or until google disappears, so be prepared for this shit year after year. As for Bing, even one of my non-SEO optimized sites ranks on the 1st page of Bing for 2 keywords (each of them gets less than 100 searches per month) without me doing anything about it. The domain name is an EMD (very similar to "learn guitar lessons", but obviously not this one). So, trying Bing is not something that you have to prepare for, cause Bing is not as strict as google. If your sites are optimized for google bing will just rank you outright. I guess you still need to submit your site's sitemap to their search console, but I haven't done this and I still rank. So, I don't know....

And yeah, google is uncertain... well, all 3rd party tools, sites and services that directly affect your sites are uncertain. Can you bet your house on a nickel that SEMRush will stay forever? Or Ahrefs? Its the nature of this industry (SEO) that makes it volatile (I hope I used the right word :p) ... Anyway, apparently you are a much more experienced SEOer than I am, so I don't think any of my "tips" are eye-opening for you. So, all I'm trying to say is that you should just diversify your portfolio of sites, and the SEO efforts too. Even I, as poor as I am, still have 7 sites (1 authority site, 3 autoblogs, 1 ebooks store, and 2 blogging mom type of sites) that I'm "working" on (by "working" I mean I post an article on them once in a blue moon, if I'm in the mood lol) and at least 3 more sites (2 autoblogs + 1 authority) will come by the end of this month cause you never know what sticks and what takes off. So, diversify, use white hat techniques, spamdexing, autoblogging, etc and whenever one method stops working other methods usually get better. That's why it's better to have different types of sites and using different SEO tactics. Either this, or let's go pick cotton :)
Cotton seems feasible :D
 

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My #1 site took a 40% drop in traffic two days ago (on 07/02), my #2 site saw traffic increased with 20%. I'm just gonna keep doing what I do and see what happens in a week or three. In the past I have seen traffic slowly climbing up again after a getting a big hit. Obviously this whole thing of being so G-dependent is pretty frustrating, so I really do understand how you feel right now. Good luck!
 

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The recent Google updates has wreaked havoc on a lot of sites but the old adage of "the cream always rises to the top" should come back in the G rankings.

On site quality, off site quality, Google not drinking moonshine and the sun rising in the east should make things right at some point again.
 

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This does happen with any type of sites within any of the google updates, even the big ones,
For me, nothing really helped apart from keep posting content, targeting new keywords & building links,
This is not to recover the old ranking/traffic, but to keep the growth going,
Maybe the current update could take your website down, but the next one could take it back and by this time, you'll get much more traffic as you kept investing on it
 
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